<erikh>
especially if you use it as a base to write your own mini... testing... framework
<erikh>
specialized, of course.
<x0f>
zenspider, tru dat. thanks for mentioning.
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<daturkel>
zenspider: i understand everything in that synopsis except for "class TestMeme < Minitest::Test". why isn't this just "class TestMeme < Minitest"? where did ::Test come from?
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<zenspider>
daturkel: why don't you understand it. it is what it is.
<x0f>
the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.
<daturkel>
i guess i don't understand what ::Test means when operating on a class. i thought :: was the operator for module variables
<zenspider>
:: is scoping / namespacing
<zenspider>
class X; class Y; end; end
<zenspider>
X::Y is the inner class
<daturkel>
oh i got confused because i was thinking it said Meme::Test and there was nothing inside Meme called Test
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<siberia>
anyone on who knows about OptionParser?
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<zenspider>
siberia: what's up?
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<siberia>
i'm trying to get a list of ports as a cli arg. for some reason its packing it into arr[0] instead of arr so i end up with [[ports]] instead of [ports]
<zenspider>
and your decl?
<siberia>
its not a big deal to just call each on ports[0] but I feel like it shouldn't be behaving that way. opt.on("-p", "--ports x,y,z", Array, "TARGET PORT(s)") do |o|
<siberia>
47 $ports << o
<siberia>
48 end
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<soahccc>
siberia: you get an array in o
<zenspider>
siberia: you're getting an ... beat me
<zenspider>
$ports = o
<zenspider>
and use better names
<zenspider>
and don't use globals
<soahccc>
zenspider: hey I needed to login before being able to send to channel :P
<siberia>
OK gotcha. thanks guys much appreciated
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<dkam>
Hey - trying to install flickraw via gems - seems gems.rubygorge.org is timing out. Installation works on other hosts, so I guess my gem command is configured to look in the wrong place?
<dkam>
Ah. Bad source. All fixed.
<dkam>
Thank you rubber duck.
<drbrain>
dkam: yup, we're working to get gems.rubyforge.org restored, but it's best to update your source to https://rubygems.org
<dkam>
drbrain: Ah right. Was wondering if it has just shutdown or was having an outage. Sources changed in any event.
<drbrain>
dkam: the host providing the redirect has been shut down, but updating saves you a round-trip per request
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<SCRIPT_KITTEH>
anyone here use eclipse ide for ruby?
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<erikh>
worst troll ever
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<yorickpeterse>
(or use an (args) node to group them together)
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<yorickpeterse>
The main issue with (block (send)) is that if you use block nodes as a scope (for anything really) you'll end up in a lot of weird areas
<yorickpeterse>
since then the method will also be considered to be part of that scope, which is not the case
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<judofyr>
gnufied: thanks for the paper!
<gnufied>
No problem.
<judofyr>
interesting read
<judofyr>
or, I've only skimmed it yet
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<gnufied>
my first cut is to implement a plain SAT solver based resolver and then attempting PBO problem
<andrewvos>
Well you already have x amount of products as nodes
<andrewvos>
So you kinda know how many there are
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<ericwood>
I still don't see the problem
<ericwood>
even though that is a silly format
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<andrewvos>
It is a weird thing to do
<ericwood>
most people who think that XML is an acceptable way to store data make stupid decisions like that
<ericwood>
the fact that the actual data stored in that shit is waaaay smaller than the surrounding markup is a red flag :P
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<andrewvos>
Yeah we don't need to argue that xml is shit pretty much 99% of the time
<andrewvos>
But sometimes you just gotta consume APIs from other people man
<andrewvos>
The world is a terrible place
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<ericwood>
yep :(
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<ericwood>
I've seen some shit, man
<yorickpeterse>
wohoo, hacked myself a standing desk
<yorickpeterse>
boxes + magazines = booyah
<ericwood>
I bet it will fall over
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<yorickpeterse>
Not really, it's rock solid
<yorickpeterse>
it's also a temp solution
<ericwood>
just make sure it doesn't fall over and crush you
<wnd>
Ok, you just managed to remind me of this carefully crafted API I had the misfortune to work with some time ago. It all started when our customer wanted to create an write-only interface between their company internal service and public internet. It took them just three months to get it ready, and the result was an API which can be summarised as <request> <department>1</department> <section>2</section> <field1name>name1</field1name> <field1value>value1</field1value
<wnd>
> </request>, where fieldN-name/value-pairs would run from 1 to 20 but not further than that. They also specified four fieldtypes that would be required to be present for the document to be valid.
<ericwood>
that sounds horrible
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<andrewvos>
yorickpeterse: Just put a small chair on your desk
<andrewvos>
Done
<ericwood>
we haven't heard from him for a while, I think it fell over and he's currently trapped under it
<ericwood>
R.I.P. yorickpeterse
<andrewvos>
hahaha
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<yorickpeterse>
andrewvos: haha
<yorickpeterse>
that's a good idea
<yorickpeterse>
also, I didn't put my desk on boxes
<apeiros>
soahccc: we use qr- & datamatrix codes to manage our paper documents
<apeiros>
as in: there are other uses than silly qr codes on ads or websites
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<soahccc>
apeiros: okay ;) it just came to my mind. It's a private thing I suppose? Would love an easy way to manage that paper tower over here
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<apeiros>
soahccc: no, "we" usually == "at the company I work" ;-)
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<whitequark>
people who whine about urls being easier to type than qr codes clearly never tried to type an URL of some latest startup fad
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<whitequark>
which is, on one hand, surprising, because it's mostly the same pool of hipsters, and on the other one makes sense, because you probably shouldn't type those URLs or look at them or even acknowledge their existence
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<yorickpeterse>
whitequark: you really dislike a lot about the web don't you? :>
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<yorickpeterse>
we also have QR codes
<yorickpeterse>
I think we have some weird-ass code to generate them
<yorickpeterse>
but at least our links are short ones so you can actually type them if you wabnt
<yorickpeterse>
* want
<yorickpeterse>
hm, apparently we used rqrcode_png under the hood
<whitequark>
I am opposed to QR codes in public spaces though
<whitequark>
but for an entirely different reason: it's a perfect scamming target
<yorickpeterse>
No, feed.ba/ab-cdef123
<yorickpeterse>
and hotels fucking love them
<whitequark>
you just print a qr code leading to your fake website and glue it over legitimate bank ad
<soahccc>
apeiros: With private I was referring to "not publicly available"
<yorickpeterse>
whitequark: this bikeshed I used to put my bike at at my previous job would have this image of a half naked lady with a QR code, followed by the text "Wanna see boobies? Scan this code"
<yorickpeterse>
looked legit
<whitequark>
a whole new meaning for "bikeshedding"
<soahccc>
Over here they use QR codes in television. It's like "now scan this qr code" and before you're even able to unlock it the code is gone :)
<yorickpeterse>
whitequark: giggity
<whitequark>
soahccc: lol
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<apeiros>
soahccc: the interesting part will probably not be public :(
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<soahccc>
apeiros: Hmm that's sad. I made several small attempts to build some sort of hybrid organization but my paper tower isn't just high enough
<apeiros>
soahccc: well, I want to do that for my paper tower too, but given how little time I have for my projects… :-(
<soahccc>
apeiros: We're an online company so we do not have that much paper stuff at work but there we use a document scanner with some sort of signing so that we can shred any paper directly after scanning :) But these scanners are somewhat expensive
<apeiros>
soahccc: same here
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<erikh>
a friend and I were trying to embed GPG keys in them
<erikh>
qr codes that is
<apeiros>
nice
<erikh>
so you could do keysigning parties trivially
<apeiros>
also somewhat nice: qr-code on business card. easier than copy-typing the data
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<rickhull>
"Any error-correcting code can be used for error detection. A code with minimum Hamming distance, d, can detect up to d − 1 errors in a code word. Using minimum-distance-based error-correcting codes for error detection can be suitable if a strict limit on the minimum number of errors to be detected is desired."
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<spike|spiegel>
but can be extended
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<spike|spiegel>
okay, that's that the one, all single digit and single adjacent transposition errors
<spike|spiegel>
apeiros: you are fine as long as order is not 2 or 6 :D and it doesn't look difficult to implement
<apeiros>
RickHull: as said, forward correction will usually need too much additional data. and detection is good enough.
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<apeiros>
brb
<joevandyk>
Is installing gems slow for anyone else right now?
<spike|spiegel>
the biggest hurdle would be creating the group
<joevandyk>
playing around with docker, can't tell if docker setup slow or if rubygems slow
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<rickhull>
if anyone poked rubyforge.org for me, thanks! it's back up now
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<spike|spiegel>
apeiros: you owe me a digital cookie :P
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* spike|spiegel
zzz
<ndrst>
joevandyk: are you in a VM? for me i don't see a big difference with docker
<cout>
docker? I hardly...
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<rickhull>
apeiros: what's the endeavor here? just curious
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<apeiros>
spike|spiegel: not sure I owe you a cookie. you did neither explain nor implement it :)
<apeiros>
also just because the paper you linked is newer, I'm not convinced their approach is better
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<apeiros>
RickHull: mapping a part of documents UUID to print it along the qr code so you can manually find documents quickly
<apeiros>
and the check-digit is to make user-errors obvious
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<rickhull>
interesting, where do the user errors fit in? i would think you have a canonical UUID (an error here would be undetectable), and you auto generate the the qr and the "alongside printout"
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<apeiros>
RickHull: the printed ID is only 8 chars long, with 1 check digit, that means we have only 42 bits of information. it does not map full UUID
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<apeiros>
and the user error would be when manually copy-typing the id from a paper
<apeiros>
the QR code is for when the document is machine read
<apeiros>
it contains the full uuid and doesn't need that mechanism (qr code has its own error correction)
<rickhull>
ah, ok. i assumed digital documents, derp
<apeiros>
heh, sorry, I think I mentioned it quite a few lines ago and forgot to explicitly repeat it
<rickhull>
DRY, baby
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