<drbrain>
[[thufir]]: actually, it looks like cmd calls waitfor inside, so the data is returned as a string
<drbrain>
or you can use a block to get each chunk
<drbrain>
data = cmd "some command I send to telnet"
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<[[thufir]]>
I'm only looking for an "end of line" or other type of thing, like Prompt: /[#]/ . but, before I send a cmd, I need to wait for it to say "login" (in a non-standard, game MUD way)
<[[thufir]]>
so I can't send the cmd blind until I get an EOL or prompt...
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<ramonmaruko>
good afternoon everyone
<ramonmaruko>
Is there a standard or idiomatic way of including a C header from a gem dependency in my own gem with a native extension?
<ramonmaruko>
I'm thinking of maybe looking for a match to the pattern of the path to the header via LOAD_PATH and then passing it to with_config in my gem's extconf.rb...
<drbrain>
then you can use that in your extconf.rb with find_header, etc.
<drbrain>
ramonmaruko: find_header seems better than with_config if you know the exact path
<ramonmaruko>
that's what I almost came up with, but I modified $INCFLAGS directly instead. I'll be using find_header now.
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<ramonmaruko>
drbrain: Thank you!
<drbrain>
ramonmaruko: yeah, it says find_header modifies $INCFLAGS directly
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<rhizome>
offhand, are there any standard docs for advanced hash stuff? multilevel inject, or combined inject/collect type stuff? my brain is mush right now.
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<maloik>
hey
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<rhizome>
ah, that makes sense. lemme bang on that, thanks
<yorickpeterse>
Currently I have a Das but my wrist position is something I'm unsure about
<apeiros>
rhizome: remember that you have to store the default value in the hash yourself with a default block:
<apeiros>
h = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = [] } # assignment returns the rhs, so that expression returns the new array
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<rhizome>
i understand the second part, but i'm not sure where the manual assignment first-part comes in :)
<rhizome>
are you distinguishing that example from Hash.new({})?
<rhizome>
which, looks weird now that i look at it a second time.
<matled>
yorickpeterse: looks interesting but I'd want to try it before buying... I've got a kinesis advantage right now, seems the hands are a bit closer on the truly ergonomic
<apeiros>
Hash.new { [] } # this would give you a new default array every time, but it would not be stored in the hash
<yorickpeterse>
Yeah same here, it's a lot of money so I'm not sure if I want to risk wasting it
<apeiros>
>> h = Hash.new { [] }; h[:x] << "foo"; h
<Skyr>
judofyr: So how do I express a time in yaml which doesn't get modified on import?
<judofyr>
Skyr: you can't
<judofyr>
Skyr: store the timezone separately
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<Skyr>
judofyr: My application doesn't regard timezones (no international calendar ;-), so I have to correct all times from yaml using tzinfo?
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<judofyr>
Skyr: the time object will be correct (have the same UNIX timestamp). when you present a Time object you can use tzinfo to show it in the correct timezone.
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<apeiros>
Skyr: also note that +02:00 is NOT a timezone
<maloik>
Anyone work on SaaS-type products? I'm wondering how you get input from users when it comes to little changes or ideas you have... like anything that you could put in a 1-question questionnaire type thing
<maloik>
wondering if it wouldnt be useful to develop something that adds a little overlay to your site if such a question is currently relevant for your users, where they can quickly and easily answer something ("We changed the color, like it?") together with a backend for stats (# views, # answers etc)
<judofyr>
maloik: lightbox that blocks everything and forces the user to answer. best way of ensuring I never want to use the product ;)
<maloik>
judofyr: exactly what I'd avoid ;)
<maloik>
I was thinking of something like uservoice, non-blocking but catching your eye
<Skyr>
judofyr: Ok, this might take some minutes to wrap my mind around it. Thanks for your help!
<maloik>
wait no its not uservoice
<ljarvis>
maloik: we've had a small banner appear at the top of the screen, entirely optional and a user can close it (it'll never appear again), it worked okay (but I also wasn't extremely satisfied with it)
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<ljarvis>
it also won't appear on following requests, instead it'll move to their account page (so it only has the chance of annoying them once, if at all)
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<maloik>
exactly
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<maloik>
wouldn't it be cool to have a service to include that on your site? Simple javascript include, perhaps some css if you want to customize it, with optional extra parameters being sent such as user id etc
<whitequark>
random bullshit as a service
<maloik>
how is it bullshit? it's something I'd definately use, sometimes you just want input on a decision but you don't want to email all your users
<whitequark>
it's not something you should pull in as another dependency, you likely already have more than enough
<whitequark>
or than is sane
<maloik>
I think a lot of folks would rather include a script that handles all of that for them than write a custom solution
<whitequark>
I think we have such a thing as "libraries"
<maloik>
that's a technical detail
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<yorickpeterse>
wohoo, xml parsing tiem
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<Olipro>
using a hash would require... effort, whenever I add new commands
<ljarvis>
yes, sane valuable effort
<ljarvis>
also why are commands class methods?
<ljarvis>
judofyr: so it works if you dont execute x?
<Olipro>
well, I suppose I could just make them dynamic methods and instantiate a class instance
<ljarvis>
meh I'd still use a hash, command => caller, hashes were built for this kind of shit
<Olipro>
didn't really see much point in doing that since there's nothing that needs to be per-instance, since there's only ever one
<ljarvis>
judofyr: oh lol ignore me
<ljarvis>
the exception was halting the execution
<Olipro>
Available commands: MyClass.public_methods - Object.public_methods
<ljarvis>
so yeah, evidentally, it does work
<ljarvis>
Olipro: but why the visibility changes?
<Olipro>
the idea is to make debug/dangerous/plumbing commands private
<Olipro>
so they can't be accessed initially
<Olipro>
run a "reveal" command (method) and it converts all the private methods to public
<ljarvis>
yeah i'd say that's bad design
<Olipro>
why
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<Olipro>
the only thing the class does is contain runnable commands
<ljarvis>
well, has it worked without you having issues?
<ljarvis>
that's a pretty good idea of flawed design
<ljarvis>
and knowing a hash would work well
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<Olipro>
a hash would work well if you don't have many commands and you're not constantly adding/modifying them
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<Olipro>
I just take a line of STDIN, splat it into send
<Olipro>
wrong number of args? get an exception
<Olipro>
and then, once you do get the correct number of args, the method itself does validation
<whitequark>
just use slop
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<Olipro>
whitequark: I'm implementing an interactive CLI
<Olipro>
not something that you use one-shot-at-a-time from a shell
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<Olipro>
for that I usually use Trollop
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<ljarvis>
Olipro: you ever used pry?
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<Olipro>
yes, they should ship that instead of irb with Ruby itself
<ljarvis>
it uses slop for all command interactions
<Olipro>
oh-ho-ho
<Olipro>
alrighty then, I'll take a further look
<Olipro>
I saw your github README, looked like another Trollop
<Olipro>
not really sure what it'll do for me though, using Readline has proven simple enough
<ljarvis>
heh, im not sure id use it unless i needed to pass extra info into the methods, but then again, i wouldn't do it how you're currently doing it either
<Olipro>
yes, your love for hashes has been noted
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<Olipro>
personally, I'd rather avoid having to maintain a huge, unwieldly hash
<ljarvis>
then dont use a hash, but dont mess with method visibility for such little gain
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<yorickpeterse>
ugghhh, prototype services getting hammered by people who think they can push a few million reviews through it
<yorickpeterse>
instead of the 100-200 it was designed for for a 2 day meetup
<yorickpeterse>
Well, our own code is handling it fine. The underlying Java code is the problem
<yorickpeterse>
takes fucking forever
<yorickpeterse>
HAHA, somehow stack traces are being fired around too
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<scholar01>
i'm encountering an error when trying to use rails that is preventing me from learning how to use it. I'm using RVM on Mac OSX, and I have my 2.0 Ruby selected. I gem installed rails, and got the error, so I created a custom gemset just for rails and still receive the error. I googled the error with no luck.
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<scholar01>
The error starts with ~/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p0@rails-gems/gems/railties-4.0.0/lib/rails/app_rails_loader.rb:34:in `read': Is a directory - bin/rails (Errno::EISDIR)
<scholar01>
Any suggestions?
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<scholar01>
ughhhh, so 5 directories up I have a "bin/rails" directory that the AppRailsLoader was finding instead of my actual rails installation...
<scholar01>
This is very unexpected behavior…
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<scholar01>
I might have to email the author of this module.
<scholar01>
ciao
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<yorickpeterse>
grrr, Italians
<yorickpeterse>
hammering our poor server
* yorickpeterse
deploys a rate limit
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* ljarvis
deploys your mom
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<yorickpeterse>
hurr hurr
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<cored>
hi
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<judofyr>
hi cored
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<cored>
I'm trying to use forwardable to delegate to an internal value of an object
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: depends on the man in the middle
<ljarvis>
what the fuck
<yorickpeterse>
dem russians
<imperator>
white or red?
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<yorickpeterse>
Anybody having issues with fork/star counts and such not showing up on Github?
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<imperator>
seems ok to me
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<yorickpeterse>
hm
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<yorickpeterse>
huh odd, this particular resource gives a 404 in Chrome but works fine in Curl
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<zenspider>
rawr
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<darix>
woof
<darix>
yorickpeterse: try if it gives 404 if you disable caching in chrome
<darix>
the developer console has a switch for that
<yorickpeterse>
Tried that already
<yorickpeterse>
not sure what's up, probably chromium being a bish
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<ericwood>
today is a horrible day
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<rickhull>
FWIW, it's beautiful in SF
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<rickhull>
i'm getting back an array of records (arrays) from sqlite, and i'm looking for a quick way to present the data. e.g. html_table(array, html_options = {})
<rickhull>
i could implement html_table easily enough, but i feel like surely someone has already done it
<rickhull>
this is basically for a prototype, just looking for something incrementally better than staring at ruby arrays
<rickhull>
and nice, lined-up column headers
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<workmad3>
rickhull: it's a ruby one-liner that's so quick to write, it would be more effort to pull it into a project compared to re-implementing it
<rickhull>
i don't disagree, but that doesn't mean someone hasn't either ;)
<apeiros>
rickhull: while meant more as an example for how to write a presenter, my tabledata gem actually provides that
<apeiros>
note though: that gem isn't really ready for public consumption. but feel free to use it :)
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* imperator
is inspired to look at html-table again
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