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<yorickpeterse>
morning fleshlings
<tbuehlmann>
moin
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<dangerousdave>
I am fed up of trying to get this sinatra application working. I have the following, however send_email in notifications errors is it does not recognise the class method. https://gist.github.com/deathwishdave/f152c0fa9885e12b4164
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<DefV>
those bastards at #ruby are gossiping about #ruby-lang
<jhass>
how dare we!
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<shevy>
hey
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<maloik>
apeiros: out of curiosity, what's the reasoning behind that cross-posting stuff? I never really got it.. I mean, if I saw a question and I decided to answer it I'm not going to go looking at any other channels it was asked in
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<maloik>
seems it's proper etiquette to announce cross-posting in most channels I'm in, but I have no idea why
<apeiros>
maloik: I don't feel like reiterating this the 1000th time.
<maloik>
fair enough, dont worry about it
<apeiros>
one day I'll write it down
<maloik>
:-)
<apeiros>
basically it's the experience that people ask in multiple venues and never update other venues that they've got an answer. fucking people over who take their valuable free time trying to answer it.
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<maloik>
yea I thought that's what it'd be... I guess I'm just too lazy to check other channels if people do say they're cross-posting :-)
<apeiros>
I'm too lazy too. I simply don't help people who cross-post.
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<DefV>
lol
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<rs1>
. 1 ) What means test(?e, '/dev/null') ? ( i don't find it on ruby-doc or on project source ) 2 ) As i understanded , this whole string redirected stderr to null ( no to show error messages) if result of " test(?e, '/dev/null')" is true, but why we need 'NUL:' string ??I don't find any information about 'NUL:' in ruby
<yorickpeterse>
argh, Ruby's Time class is a ghetto
<yorickpeterse>
Timezones, wots dat
<yorickpeterse>
also wtf is up with Time.new taking a UTC offset *as a String in HH:MM*
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<darix>
yorickpeterse: time is hard.
<darix>
didnt you learn that in physics?
<darix>
:p
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<workmad3>
darix: time is relative... or it doesn't exist
<darix>
workmad3: and we can bend it!
<workmad3>
darix: we can only bend it if it actually exists :)
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<darix>
workmad3: well for now i will believe it exists as space time
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<workmad3>
darix: I've only just finished reading Barbour's "The end of time" which is about his timeless physics... I'm still trying to decide how much I agree with his formulation :)
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<darix>
watched a few brian cox lectures
<darix>
as my last bits on physics
<workmad3>
the stuff I've seen from brian cox has tended to be rather hand-wavey and glosses over all the interesting stuff
<workmad3>
and doesn't really let you know of any subtleties
<darix>
workmad3: well I think he is good for getting people interested in physics
<workmad3>
could just be I've seen the particularly bad stuff from him though :)
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<darix>
if you are past that stage ... maybe you only saw the beginners stuff
<darix>
:)
<sonvu_ae>
hello
<sonvu_ae>
Can i ask one question
<darix>
sonvu_ae: 50cents
<sonvu_ae>
aw :)
<workmad3>
sonvu_ae: you've just asked one question :P
<sonvu_ae>
haha nice too see you again workmad3
<sonvu_ae>
now i'm feeling love with ruby :)
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<workmad3>
darix: yeah... I guess it also doesn't help that I personally tend to be more interested in quantum physics and brian cox tends to do more on cosmology (although what I particularly liked about Barbour was that his main drive was to try and formulate a useful quantum cosmology)
<darix>
workmad3: well i think he works at LHC atm :)
<workmad3>
darix: all the stuff he seems to do lectures, documentaries and books on is more cosmology :)
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<workmad3>
darix: could be that I saw some rather hand-wavey stuff he did on that front and stopped paying attention though (so could be a personal bias)
<darix>
workmad3: well in very early cosmology those are kinda related
<darix>
or at least we treat it like that.
<darix>
brb
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<NemesisD>
is there a way to bust any dependency caching going in in rubygems? I'm trying to update my apps to 4.1.5 and they're only picking up 4.1.4
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<tbuehlmann>
heh, same here, `Could not find rails-4.1.5 in any of the sources`
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<NemesisD>
hmm yeah i can't find any info on this. i wonder if its something that has to get handled server side when it generates that dependency metadata
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<NemesisD>
because if you search rubygems with the client for rails it will show you the correct version, so i'm assuming the issue lies in the API created for bundler
<tbuehlmann>
183204 <darix> qrush: i guess the 503 for api/v1/dependencies... is known already?
<tbuehlmann>
has to do with that I think
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<NemesisD>
tbuehlmann: where are you seeing that 503?
<tbuehlmann>
I don't
<jhass>
NemesisD: are we talking about rubygems or bundler?
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<tbuehlmann>
trying to find out how to use that old dependency api thingy..
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<NemesisD>
jhass: i'm not sure. i am running bundle update rails on my apps, but i don't know where the problem lies. it just chooses an older version
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<jhass>
so bundle update rails throws that "Could not find" error?
<tbuehlmann>
ok, so, my deployment worked adding the --full-index option to bundle install
<tbuehlmann>
bundle installing locally worked perfectly, just my deployment didn't work
<NemesisD>
jhass: so if i do bundle update it chooses 4.1.4 (latest is 4.1.5), if i explicitly set the dep in the gemfile to 4.1.5 it says it can't find it
<sarkyniin>
Hey
<jhass>
NemesisD: and if you do both?
<jhass>
set the dep and run bundle update rails ?
<sarkyniin>
I'm developing a function in my bot that generates a given number of rolls between 1 and 10000
<sarkyniin>
I was wondering, is the ruby PRNG okay for that?
<sarkyniin>
or is something like random.org's api better, since it's a true rng?
<NemesisD>
jhass, that's what i was doing. running with --full-index worked for me though!
<wallerdev__>
ruby's rng is fine for most use cases
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<wallerdev__>
unless there's some sort of science or money on the line i wouldnt worry about it much
<sarkyniin>
oh, okay, thanks
<jhass>
sarkyniin: depends on how critical it is for you. There's also SecureRandom in stdlib that utilizes system PRNGs
<sarkyniin>
I was wondering, since sometimes people need to generate up to 100 rolls
<sarkyniin>
but if ruby's rng is fine for that, then I guess it's ok
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<jake1016>
Can I use || (or) in a case statement if I want a when block to match a few different strings?
<toertore>
no
<_dyrim>
jake1016: You can use a comma-separated list, though.
<_dyrim>
when "foo", "bar"
<jake1016>
Oh perfect. Thats what I was looking for. Thanks!
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<jake1016>
Is there a stylistically cleaner way of doing that if I have a bunch of items I want to match. In this situation, there are 10 items that I’m about to put in that comma-separated list so it seems a little messy. For example, would an if statement with an Array.include be better?
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<Mon_Ouie>
Depends on the situation, it may be so here
<Mon_Ouie>
You can however use when *your_array
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<jake1016>
Awesome. You guys rock.
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<zenspider>
jake1016: YES, you can. you can do it the way _dyrim showed, or you can use an expressionless case: case; when a || b || c then ... ; when d || e; etc; end
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