ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p547: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<sirish> hi
<zenspider> sexp_processor version 4.4.4 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2014/08/sexp_processor-version-4-4-4-has-been-released.html
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<pipework> zenspider: Hi, I'm an asshole.
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<whitequark> what
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<zenspider> whitequark: he seems to revel in it. *shrug*
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<jammanbo> So I've made two gems, call them A and B. In both of them I've generated binstubs and committed them. A has a dependency on B. When I add B to A's Gemfile, any attempt to use one of A's binaries results in "Bundler is using a binstub that was created for a different gem." Can someone help me understand.
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<rolfb> morning!
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<yorickpeterse> Hm, it appears that I get to smash our API with an iron hammer today
<yorickpeterse> Some of this shit is painfully inconsistent
<yorickpeterse> Plus endpoints aren't organized very well, which is mainly my own fault
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<yorickpeterse> "HULK API SMASH" etc
<rolfb> yorickpeterse: are you baiting me?
<yorickpeterse> Are you attracted to smashing APIs?
<rolfb> won't make a hulk reference today as well when yesterday's went so poorly
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<yorickpeterse> pfft
<rolfb> BUT NOW, lunch!
<yorickpeterse> still have another hour :<
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<yorickpeterse> matti: best played extremely loud in the office
<matti> Haha
<matti> yorickpeterse: :)
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<yorickpeterse> Told bossman I'd deliver a test report at 15:33
<yorickpeterse> delivered at 35:32
<yorickpeterse> errr
<yorickpeterse> 15:32
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<yorickpeterse> I wanted 15:33 so I'd have a prime-time delivery (huehuehue)
* yorickpeterse slaps himself around with a copy of "The Pragmatic Trout"
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<badeball> with ragel, is there any way to determine how much backtracking may maximally occur at any given time during parsing?
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<whitequark> ragel doesn't backtrack
<whitequark> it generates a finite state machine. not even with a stack (unless you explicitly manage it)
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<badeball> yeah, that makes sense (with the exception of longest-matching machine I guess?)
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<badeball> the reason I ask is because I've noticed that the data variable is not accessed with strictly increasing indexes
<badeball> I'm trying to create something that parses a possibly infinite stream, but I'm unsure about how early I can throw away data
<badeball> I've managed to parses files of arbritary size with a somewhat constant memory usage, but that's only because the data is persisted
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<jtoy> how do I name a module dynamically? like Module.new("ModuleName")
<jtoy> and then I can call ModuleName
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<|jemc|> jtoy: use const_set
<whitequark> badeball: longest-matching machine still doesn't backtrack
<whitequark> Ragel doesn't *have* anything to backtrack to
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<whitequark> take a look at the machine it generates
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<|jemc|> >> x = Module.new; Object.const_set(:Foo, x); p x
<eval-in> |jemc| => Foo ... (https://eval.in/179704)
<whitequark> if you have |* "ab" ; "abc" *|, it'll match "ab" and then go to the first variant on EOF and non-c
<whitequark> and second on c
<|jemc|> jtoy: call const_set on the module you're trying to namespace under, which (hopefully) isn't Object
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<jtoy> |jemc|: if i am doing tthat several times on the same name, do i need to "remove" itfirst?
<|jemc|> yeah, ruby will complain that you are redefining an already defined constant
<jtoy> yeah, I see warnings for it:
<jtoy> what is the proper way to kill it first?
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<|jemc|> jtoy: I'll give you a hint - it's here http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.2/Module.html
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<jtoy> Object.send(:remove_const, "TESTING")
<|jemc|> but at this point you know enough to have googled for it
<badeball> whitequark: alright, thanks, I'll try and take a closer look at the generated code
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<whitequark> badeball: no, take a look at the graph
<whitequark> generate it via graphviz
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<|jemc|> badeball: if the concept helps, in my ragel setup, sometimes I find I have to "take notes" to a temporary array about tokens during a partial match - then actually emit those notes as soon as I know I have a full match
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<|jemc|> and I wrote a couple helper methods to generalize that note-taking process
<sarkyniin> hey, is it possible to perform a check during the time sleep pauses the script?
<|jemc|> sarkyniin: it would have to be in another thread or process
<sarkyniin> jemc: oh, okay.
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<badeball> whitequark: I just found that I was doing something wrong all along and ragel is perfect
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<jtoy> why does fail? name="Idea11"; Object.send(:remove_const, name) if defined?(name.constantize)
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<jtoy> I get: NameError: constant Object::Idea11 not defined
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<yorickpeterse> because name.constantize returns a constant
<yorickpeterse> and not a string
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<jtoy> but defined doesnt take a string
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<jtoy> how do I pass a variable name into defined then?
<jtoy> defined?("Idea11".constantize) == defined?(Idea11)
<jtoy> => false
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<rsl> defined?(UndefinedConstant) doesn't raise an exception it returns false
<yorickpeterse> jtoy: You pass the constant in as a literal
<yorickpeterse> >> a = 'Foo'; defined?(Foo)
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => nil (https://eval.in/179705)
<yorickpeterse> >> a = 'Foo'; defined?('Foo')
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "expression" (https://eval.in/179706)
<rsl> ni
<rsl> nil
<yorickpeterse> >> a = 'Foo'; defined?(Object.const_get(:Foo))
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "method" (https://eval.in/179707)
<Hinkdogg_> if I have a 2 dimensional array how would I print just 1 array row
<yorickpeterse> eh
<yorickpeterse> wtf
<yorickpeterse> oh that's right, defined? isn't a method but a hack
<jtoy> yes
<yorickpeterse> Either way, so you'd have to pass in the literal constant
<rsl> irb(main):001:0> defined? Undefined => nil
<yorickpeterse> or use Object.const_defined or w/e it was
<rsl> not a hack
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<jtoy> didnt know about Object.const_defined?
<jtoy> cool
<|jemc|> rsl: it's a parser hack
<|jemc|> no other method could accept a literal constant access for a constant that didn't exist
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<rsl> it's a language construct
<rsl> so calling it a hack seems weird
<rsl> i get what yr saying
<rsl> but calling it a hack definitely seems weird
<whitequark> defined? is not a method, it's an operator
<|jemc|> heh, and it's not one of the many operators that is also a method :P
<rsl> who are you letting pass in strings that you try to evaluate as constants?
<rsl> this whole idea seems like there's better way to do it
<whitequark> |jemc|: it's not a method at all.
<|jemc|> whitequark: yep
<whitequark> even the token "defined?" is a keyword
<|jemc|> whitequark: yep
<whitequark> oh, sorry, misread
<jhass> Hinkdogg_: p array.first ?
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<Hinkdogg_> jhass thanks I will try that
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<gsdfvu> warning
<gsdfvu> you may be watched
<gsdfvu> do usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??
<gsdfvu> do they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations??
<gsdfvu> do usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??
<gsdfvu> تحذير
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<jtoy> I changed load('file.rb') to module.module_eval File.read('file.rb') and now the __FILE__ inside file.rb is wrong
<jtoy> how can I fix this but still be able to load a file with module_eval?
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<jhass> that looks like a horrible idea
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<jtoy> its fun hacking
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<jtoy> but i would like to fix it
<Mon_Ouie> See module_eval's other arguments
<Mon_Ouie> >> Object.module_eval("p __FILE__", "nope.", __LINE__)
<eval-in> Mon_Ouie => "nope." ... (https://eval.in/179709)
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<jtoy> fixed it, you can pass a filename!
<jtoy> phew!
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<jtoy> the docs are kind of shitty
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<stef1a> a before_action doesn't appear to get called before my create action, even though i tell it to (with only:). when i try to log stuff with logger.debug, nothing shows up in development.log, so i'm having trouble figuring out what's wrong: https://gist.github.com/smlance/ecf7d6dee0668a9ffe5b#file-quarters_controller-rb-L21. i believe this problem has to do with my using strftime on a datetime_field, but i'm unsure how to fix it.
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<apeiros> stef1a: you're probably better off in #rubyonrails
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: ping
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: pong
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: do you happen to know a way in ragel to have `any*` consume anything *except* a certain sequence of following characters? Say, anything except "foo"
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<yorickpeterse> Say your rule is: '<!--' any* '-->'
<yorickpeterse> If the input is <a><!--foo--><b><!--bar--></b></a> then your match will be "foo--><b><!--bar"
<yorickpeterse> You can work around this by using a separate state machine and marking your start/end position, but it would be nice if there's a way around that
<yorickpeterse> (the match of any* that is)
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<yxhuvud> yorickpeterse: looks more like you should be asking if there is some sort of nongreedy matching.
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<yorickpeterse> basically yes
<yorickpeterse> and I think the answer to that is "no" :/
<yorickpeterse> it sort of works for a single character when using :>
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<yorickpeterse> but that doesn't work by the looks of it for multiple characters
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<matti> yorickpeterse: Normally, I don't fanct music like that, but this one ended up in a queue by accident and I like it ;]
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<yorickpeterse> matti: meh, focus too much on the vocals
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