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<eam> gkra: there are two ways to approach the problem of dealing with multiple descriptors: 1) single thread state machine with non-blocking read/write or 2) thread per descriptor
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<Fun> hi
<Fun> any ideas what that mean http://pastebin.com/8ZGPLdTu ?
<Toba> there's a very specific no fun rule in this channel
<Fun> Toba thats only your imagination :)
<Toba> you're right, it is
<benzrf> i
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<Toba> it means your order hash object doesn't have a token field in it
<Toba> the template looked at the Spree::Order object and it didn't have a token field/method on it
<Toba> check your class definition for a getter for that field
<Toba> see, i can be fun too :p
<Fun> :)
<Fun> yes
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<waxjar> (in the feature, try #rubyonrails if you have a rails question fun, they're more likely to have an answer)
<Fun> oki
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<Fun> I admit i simply copied onepage files into exist spree
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<Fun> it seems its using older version hence the issue
<Toba> yea
<Toba> in short, your code is all fucked up.
<Fun> its a mix and match
<Fun> soon my coding assistant wakes up
<Fun> he can fix it I think lol
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<Fun> but yes ruby and rails are interesting
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<gkra> eam: so either I figure out my problems with open4 and threads, or kludge it with system()
<gkra> eam: at least thats how it looks right now to move forward with getting stuff done...
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<Fun> Toba: is there any book I can get to understand how to fix such things?
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<Toba> I dunno.
<Fun> oki
<Toba> I taught myself ruby from a website.
<Toba> (sorta badly)
<Fun> wow
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<Fun> well better than me :D
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<Toba> i went by this.
<zenspider> gkra: check out expect.rb
<Toba> and some other webpages and googling.
<Toba> it was hard.
<Toba> well
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<Toba> I was doing it at 2,3,4,5 am
<Toba> so
<Toba> maybe that's why it was hard
<Toba> I was in a rush too.
<Toba> take your time and try to fully understand each part.
<Fun> so this is file with error code
<Fun> app/views/spree/checkout/edit.html.erb:11:in `_907704d2bc58e129b3f7ae2902e67739' ?
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<Toba> no idea.
<gkra> zenspider: got a url? google is unclear. :)
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<zenspider> gem which expect
<Fun> Toba: 1 more idea what if gems installed are for specific version ?
<rubie> hi all: i was working on a problem and I'm not getting the return I am expecting, could someone take a look? https://gist.github.com/gabrie30/dc7288ddf3eb40c0334f
<benzrf> rubie: you want 2**i
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<benzrf> also this code is pretty c-like
<Toba> fun i'm outta energy to help out, sorry.
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<Toba> gotta focus on my own project.
<zenspider> rubie: it's because you use tabs
<Fun> cool
<Fun> ty
<rubie> benzrf: thanks brain fart :)
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<rubie> benzrf: wait are you sure thats right? still not getting to correct return
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<zenspider> rubie: is there some reason why you're not using MATH to solve this?
<rubie> its just an exercise
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<zenspider> an exercise in not using math?
<benzrf> dang wow
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<eam> >> def is_power_of_two?(num) not not num.to_s =~ /[02468]$/; end; [1,2,3,4].map(&:is_power_of_two?)
<eval-in__> eam => private method `is_power_of_two?' called for 1:Fixnum (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/209167)
<eam> sigh
<benzrf> eam: gros!
<zenspider> haha
<eam> >> def is_power_of_two?(num) not not num.to_s =~ /[02468]$/; end; [1,2,3,4].map { |i| is_power_of_two? i }
<eval-in__> eam => [false, true, false, true] (https://eval.in/209168)
<zenspider> also: horrible
<eam> very notty
<zenspider> and wrong
<eam> oh wait I totally didn't even read the function name
<eam> I did even
<zenspider> hahaha
<benzrf> ay lmao
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<zenspider> Math.log is your friend
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<eam> apparently I can even
<benzrf> i cant even :{
<rubie> 2 ** i --- is correct
<rubie> but doesn't make the return value correct
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<eam> rubie: what is 2 ** 0 ?
<zenspider> divmod is your friend too
<rubie> 1
<zenspider> so many better ways to do this...
<zenspider> MATH is your friend
<havenwood> >> 3.abs2
<eval-in__> havenwood => 9 (https://eval.in/209169)
<havenwood> Math \o/
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<rubie> im sure there are better ways but im trying to understand why this isn't working
<eam> rubie: well, let's examine one specific input and output that you don't agree with
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<eam> when tackling a problem break it down into specifics
<rubie> ok
<rubie> when num == 0
<rubie> it should return false
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<eam> can you gist the routine? Because what you've shown us will return false
<havenwood> Math.sqrt
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<eam> havenwood: uh oh, floating point
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<rubie> okay its updated
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<eam> >> false == false
<eval-in__> eam => true (https://eval.in/209170)
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<eam> rubie: your method is returning false as you expect, but you're comparing it to false, which returns true
<rubie> ohhh
<rubie> thats odd
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<eam> you think false shouldn't be equal to itself?
<rubie> nice catch
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<rubie> its strange that the test would evaluate the result like that
<rubie> but makes sense now
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<eam> rubie: if you want to assert that a value is what you expect you can use something like test/unit or I guess minitest: assert_equal is_power_of_two?(0), false
<havenwood> when in doubt monkey patch ALL THE CORE CLASSES \o/
<rubie> ok thanks
<havenwood> >> class Numeric; def whole?; self.modulo(1).zero? end end; class Integer; def power_of_two?; Math.sqrt(self).whole? end end; 1.upto(10).map(&:power_of_two?)
<eval-in__> havenwood => [true, false, false, true, false, false, false, false, true, false] (https://eval.in/209171)
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<havenwood> why don't we have a #whole? :P
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<eam> havenwood: 'cuz it's always false
<eam> a double value is never a whole number because it's always an approximation
<havenwood> eam: no numbers are whole? :O
<eam> no floating point numbers are whole :)
<havenwood> right
<ramfjord> havenwood: are you testing for power_of_two? or square?
<eam> I mean, we could be like class Fixnum; def whole true; end; end
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<havenwood> eam: exactly :)
<ramfjord> eam: you can get a whole double also
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<eam> ramfjord: nope
<ramfjord> just unlikely after arithmetic
<havenwood> eam: well, yeah, 3.0
<havenwood> mm
<eam> 3.0 is not whole, you can reach 3.0 using math that actually produces a fractional value
<eam> and you don't know if that's what happened
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<ramfjord> however, I think if you're doing math on powers of 2
<ramfjord> you are likely to never run into floating point errors
<eam> or conversely you can do math that should result in whole numbers, but doesn't
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<havenwood> good point
<havenwood> mathy!
<ramfjord> yes, you definitely shouldn't
<eam> math math math
<ramfjord> rely on floats for infinite precision
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<ramfjord> rational is nice for that though
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<eam> yup, my beef is only with floats
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<havenwood> that's rational
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<laphlaw> so another thing I noticed that may be a clue: I'm explicitly installing version 0.1.0 of debase, but it seems to reference 0.0.9
<laphlaw> "Gem files will remain installed in /Users/neil/.gem/ruby/2.1.0/gems/debase-0.0.9 for inspection."
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<havenwood> laphlaw: what's the exact command you're running?
<laphlaw> gem install debase -v 0.1.0
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<laphlaw> also when it says its "building native extensions", I noticed a TON of these processes are running when doing a "ps aux"
<laphlaw> "/Users/neil/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.3/bin/ruby extconf.rb"
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<laphlaw> "sh -c /Users/neil/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.3/bin/ruby extconf.rb 2>&1"\
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<laphlaw> like 400+
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<laphlaw> it gets to the point while I can't even run a command: "-bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable"
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<laphlaw> that is, until the "gem install debase" finishes. Its like its continuously trying to run "/Users/neil/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.3/bin/ruby extconf.rb"
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<benzrf> tfw
<sevenseacat> \o/
<benzrf> greg, agian
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<agent_white> Good evening everyone
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<rkazak> evening agent_white!
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<Nilium> I gots a new keyboard
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<Nilium> It's god damn loud
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<sevenseacat> mechanical?
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<agent_white> <3 my Ducky. One you go mechanical, you never go back.
<sevenseacat> i have a nice logitech keyboard that everyone thinks is mechanical just because its louder than their little apple keyboards
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<Nilium> sevenseacat: Yeah, buckling spring.
<Nilium> I use a Das Keyboard with blue switches in the office, but buckling spring is way louder
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<agent_white> I use Cherry Browns. :)
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<Nilium> One of my coworkers uses browns, but I don't really like typing on them
<Nilium> The buckling springs feel alright, though I admittedly like the more distinct feeling blues have
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<Nilium> Browns just kind of felt soft
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<Nilium> This unicomp keyboard has a similar feeling, but not as odd
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<knight1> Any thoughts on how I can replace \227 in a string with ASCII-8BIT encoding (loaded from file) to a newline in UTF-8?
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<knight1> There seems to be no replacement for \227 from ASCII-8BIT (aka BINARY) to UTF-8 (i.e. when using File.open(path, "r:binary:utf-8"))
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<Nilium> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31892/IMG_0457.JPG ← Neat, I gots keys in my keys so I can type while I no wait I ain't sinking to that level
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<eam> knight1: huh, it looks like ruby's RE engine doesn't do bytes?
<eam> there's the stupid way:
<eam> >> "aaa\227bbb".each_byte.map { |b| b == 0227 ? ?\n : b.chr }.join
<eval-in__> eam => "aaa\nbbb" (https://eval.in/209244)
<eam> or use something other than oniguruma? like maybe a PCRE gem?
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<crampa> how come 2 false && statements are false?
<crampa> how could we say that it's true that 2 statements are false?
<sevenseacat> what
<crampa> well, you know if 1 && 2 == true then the answer is true
<crampa> but if 1 && 2 are both false, isn't it true that they're both false?
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<sevenseacat> ((false && false) == false) will return true, yes.
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<crampa> sevenseacat: it returns false, but i want it to return true
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<sevenseacat> it does not return false.
<crampa> you can do !value && !other_value
<crampa> if they're both false, to return true
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<crampa> some other guys helped me, i hope this helps :)
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<sevenseacat> i... dont know what to say to that.
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<tatsuo> こんにちは
<tatsuo> hi
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<agent_white> Heya!
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<pontiki> hello agent_white
<hanmac1> shevy: i added the bagdes to the readme ... more content will follow later this week: https://github.com/Hanmac/rwx
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* agent_white hugs pontiki
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* pontiki hugs back
<pontiki> how's things, agent_white ?
<agent_white> Well enough! I can't complain. How about you pontiki?
<pontiki> well, it's 3am and i'm awake
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<agent_white> Me too :) 2am here.
<agent_white> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No9po1rNZd0 got me all excited about stunts
<knight1> There seems to be no replacement for \227 from ASCII-8BIT (aka BINARY) to UTF-8 (i.e. when using File.open(path, "r:binary:utf-8"))
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<sevenseacat> so you keep saying
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<knight1> :)
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<knight1> string.bytes.map { |b| b == from_code ? to_code : b }.pack('C*') that seemed to fix it for me
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<hanmac1> knight1: what OS ?
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<theotherstupidgu> hi
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<ruby-lang106> hi
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<toretore> Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
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<allsystemsarego> hi all, what is the most Ruby-idiomatic way of building a hash from this list of key-value pairs? [["cf62a3", "http://stackoverflow.com/"], ["af6de7", "https://www.facebook.com/"], ["e4053f", "https://twitter.com/"]]
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<workmad3> allsystemsarego: Hash[]
<apeiros> allsystemsarego: .to_h
<apeiros> (2.1+ only, else what workmad3 said)
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<allsystemsarego> excellent, let me try, thanks
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<allsystemsarego> workmad3, apeiros, here's what I tried: http://codepad.org/juvbR96W
<apeiros> allsystemsarego: one [] too few
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<allsystemsarego> oh I see
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<apeiros> Hash[[["key", "value"], …]]
<apeiros> outmost [] is the method
<apeiros> middle is your outer array
<apeiros> inner is your key/value pair array
<workmad3> or Hash["key", "value", ...]
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<definity1> What the ebst wy to print a class static var? would it be create a method that print that static var or is there a mroe implicit way?
<allsystemsarego> oh, ok, then it's not what I intended - that is, I have several lists of two elements each, and I want [0] to be the key, and [1] to be the value
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<workmad3> allsystemsarego: that is what you want... it's just that you needed to wrap them in a further []
<allsystemsarego> so I have to flatten first, I guess
<allsystemsarego> workmad3, I did, hee's the new codepad: http://codepad.org/c3bnjvOF
<allsystemsarego> *here's
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<workmad3> allsystemsarego: odd... that works fine on my system
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<workmad3> allsystemsarego: of course, with codepad you need to be careful... it runs ruby 1.8.6
<allsystemsarego> ok, thanks, I'll leave it at that
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<allsystemsarego> oh ok, that's good to know then
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<apeiros> definity1: what is a "classic static var"?
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<apeiros> definity1: also, why's the type of variable relevant?
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<mike32> hi, i run some in Parallel and get error "sqlite db is locked" what do u recommend t oavoid error
<mike32> run some code
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<mike32> seems need lock where i add records into table
<definity1> I dont know what a classic static var is
<apeiros> definity1: uh? "definity1: What the ebst wy to print a class static var?" <-- how come you ask about it then?
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<apeiros> s/classic/class/
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<definity1> class static var not a classic static var
<definity1> static varible that belong to the class
<definity1> a class varible
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<definity1> rather than an instance varible
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<apeiros> definity1: so an @@variable?
<definity1> yeah
<apeiros> ok. those are called "class variable". not static.
<tobiasvl> don't use @@variables
<apeiros> ^ +1
<workmad3> apeiros: he did call them 'class static' at least :P
<definity1> What should i use?
<apeiros> but anyway, back to the second question - why do you think the type of variable to print matters?
<definity1> becuase.. Good point
<apeiros> definity1: generally people who use @@class_vars should use @instance_vars at the class level.
<tobiasvl> definity1: you should use @variables (remember that classes are objects too)
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<apeiros> >> class X; @y = "value"; def self.y; @y; end; end; X.y
<definity1> hmm intresting
<eval-in__> apeiros => "value" (https://eval.in/209392)
<definity1> I got plenty more question but i have class, thanks for the help! :) take it easy bye
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<tobiasvl> enjoy Class
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<shevy> what a pun!
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<shevy> no Class, no Style
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<tobiasvl> hehe, I spent some seconds parsing his message because we had just been talking about class vars
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<kl> hey guys
<kl> what's the best ruby version switcher? :)
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<cHarNe2> hi guys, anyone use sinatra? how can i keep a varible through an entire request?
<cHarNe2> only way is to use a global variable? or can i do it in some other way?
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<cHarNe2> i wanna get the password from Rack::Auth::Basic and use it later on
<allsystemsarego> cHarNe2, use sessions?
<kl> tobiasvl: I'm torn between that an RVM - I know little about either
<kl> oh, it compares!
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<tobiasvl> hehe, yeah, I figured you knew about RVM
<cHarNe2> allsystemsarego: ok, ill check that
<tobiasvl> RVM is solid too of course. widely used
<workmad3> cHarNe2: also, you should be able to add it to the rack environment for the request
<workmad3> cHarNe2: rather than store it in a (potentially visible) session
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<kl> workmad3: is correct, but I question your need to effectively have a global variable
<cHarNe2> workmad3: ok, i though @env was readonly, that might be a good way
<kl> accidental colon
<kl> :)
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<kl> cHarNe2: how comes you're not just passing that variable down as a method parameter?
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<cHarNe2> kl: good Q, i can get the password-value out from Rack::Auth::Basic without a global variable it seems
<cHarNe2> and i dont know where to find in then i get to the route
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<kl> cHarNe2: a global variable is never the answer
<cHarNe2> i just tried to add the password to @env in Rack::Auth::Basic, but @env does not seem to be there
<kl> think globally, act locally
<cHarNe2> kl: yep, that is why im here ;)
<tobiasvl> cHarNe2: how did you add it? you might need an attr_accessor
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<workmad3> cHarNe2: it isn't @env, I believe
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<workmad3> cHarNe2: the rack environment is passed into .call in a rack middleware... I believe you can add stuff to it
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<cHarNe2> i hoped this would work: http://pastie.org/9670012
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<cHarNe2> im not aurhing rigt now, just faking true
<workmad3> cHarNe2: err... no
<cHarNe2> workmad3: ok, will check that
<workmad3> cHarNe2: that block is the configuration for the middleware, not a way to insert stuff into the processing of a request
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<cHarNe2> workmad3: hmm, ok i understand
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<workmad3> cHarNe2: in the case of basic auth, that's (as you're using it) the way to determine a valid un/pw... it doesn't give you access to the rack env from the block though
<workmad3> cHarNe2: that said... the basic auth component is just using the env to obtain that information anyway
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<cHarNe2> workmad3: ok, but where in the env is the password stored?
<cHarNe2> have i just missed it?
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<workmad3> cHarNe2: seems that it should be in one of these env variables: https://github.com/rack/rack/blob/master/lib/rack/auth/abstract/request.rb#L34
<workmad3> cHarNe2: and the basic request grabs the un/pw with this line: https://github.com/rack/rack/blob/master/lib/rack/auth/abstract/request.rb#L34
<cHarNe2> great!, ill dig deeper
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<workmad3> cHarNe2: tbh though, you could just do 'Rack::Auth::Basic::Request.new(rack_env).credentials' from the looks of things
<workmad3> cHarNe2: rather than re-implementing the code
<workmad3> cHarNe2: that would, I believe, give you [un, pw] back
<cHarNe2> ok, will do some more reading on this now. ill get back later :) ty very much
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<P-NuT> Can anyone explain to me how to append my results inside a block to a variable outside it?
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<apeiros> P-NuT: what did you try? (gist.github.com)
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<shevy> P-NuT the variable must already exist when you append to it, outside of the block before
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<hanmac1> shevy look i have travis builds for rwx ;P https://travis-ci.org/Hanmac/rwx
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<shevy> it's all spread out on 10 different pages! ;P
<BaNzounet> Hey, is it possible to parse a string like { 'test': '12', 'test2': '23' } directly into a hash?
<apeiros> BaNzounet: gem install literal_parser; LiteralParser.parse("{ 'test': '12', 'test2': '23' }")
<apeiros> BaNzounet: but let me ask you why you want to do that
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<apeiros> oh, wait, that's not actually valid ruby syntax, so literal_parser won't help you
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<BaNzounet> I'm parsing a configuration file
<BaNzounet> And I want to rebuild an hash form that
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<apeiros> you invented your own format for it?
<BaNzounet> not really
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<apeiros> is it a yaml file?
<BaNzounet> yep,
* apeiros rolls eye
<BaNzounet> but I use ansible to generate it
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<apeiros> require 'yaml'; YAML.load_file(path) or YAML.load(string)
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> he tricked apeiros
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<shevy> it was a yaml file all the way!
<apeiros> no. he failed asking a proper question. if you know the format, that's the first thing you say.
<BaNzounet> It's a bit more complicated that that :D
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<shevy> BaNzounet the syntax is not valid ruby though
<BaNzounet> Do you know fluentd?
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<shevy> if it is a string, you should state so, like: string = "{ 'test': '12', 'test2': '23' }"
<apeiros> shevy: it's valid yaml
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<shevy> cool
<shevy> yaml replaces the : with =>
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> MH!
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> I just noticed in ruby 2.x you can now write `private def mymethod; end` to make it private
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> and it will make only that one private
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<apeiros> 2.1+, not 2.x
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> apeiros: thanks
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> but that's really nice
<apeiros> yes
<shevy> it must be on the same line?
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<apeiros> shevy: that or parens
<shevy> hmm
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> mhhh if you write it on a different line
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> I think it will make everything private under that
<apeiros> correct
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> so if you want a single method, must be on the same line as def
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<apeiros> or parens. as said :-)
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> I'm not sure I know what "parens" mean
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> :S
<apeiros> parens are those () things
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> I know "parent", but not parens, lol
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> ah BRACKETS ! :P
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<apeiros> private(\ndef foo; end)
<apeiros> no
<apeiros> [] are brackets
<tobiasvl> parens are short for parentheses
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> oh, I thought they were all type of brackets
<apeiros> and {} are curly braces
<tobiasvl> parentheses are called brackets in the UK for example
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> in my language is roughly: parenthesis, squared parenthesis, curly parenthesis
<tobiasvl> yeah mine too
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> sorry, parentheses
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> so basically
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> everyone call them as they want
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
<mostlybadfly> Buenos días
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> mostlybadfly: welcome ! ^^
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> so from now on
<lolmaus> I am given an object with methods 'name_en', 'name_fr', etc. I need to call a method by dynamically assembling method name. How do i do that?
<mostlybadfly> Thanks!
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> flower brackets! lol
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<mostlybadfly> Is that curly brackets? Lol
<ddv> curly braces bitches
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lolmaus: public_send(:"name_#{ locale }")
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lolmaus: if method is private, use send
<mostlybadfly> I call them the squiggly things
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
<lolmaus> Fire-Dragon-DoL: thx
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<hanmac1> apeiros & shevy https://travis-ci.org/Hanmac/rwx i tryed to add
<hanmac1> travis to my stuff ;P
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<mostlybadfly> We should make up cute and whimsical names for these things
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<mostlybadfly> Hashrocket sounds too aggressive lol
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> hashrocket
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> ahahha
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> the SPACESHIP OPERATOR
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> who really came up with that name, I laughed so much
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
<mostlybadfly> It should be hashsmiley :>
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> => rocketpenis maybe?
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
<mostlybadfly> Too distracting :D
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> at least people will remember that
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
<mostlybadfly> Yeah or simply the penis
<mostlybadfly> Are you using proper penis syntax?
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> ahahahahaha
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<ddv> kids....
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<mostlybadfly> Where? :)
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> maybe he means he has kids reading chat :O
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> :P
* mostlybadfly NP: Janet Jackson: When I Think of You
<mostlybadfly> My jam
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> why I didn't find EVERYWHERE that POODR is a must-read ruby book, which is boostly my design skills so much °°
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> boosting*
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<mostlybadfly> I heard it was food
<mostlybadfly> Good haha
<mostlybadfly> Prob should eat breakfast
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
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<hanmac1> mostlybadfly & Fire-Dragon-DoL : in ruby < 2.0 there was a method named "spermy_recommendation" for turning "1.2.3" into "~> 1.2"
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> hanmac1: what the... lol
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<mostlybadfly> Lol nice
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> spermy recommendation, that's fantastic
<hanmac1> 19>> Gem::Version.new("1.2.3").methods.grep(/recommendation/)
<eval-in__> hanmac1 => [:spermy_recommendation] (https://eval.in/209490)
<hanmac1> >> Gem::Version.new("1.2.3").methods.grep(/recommendation/)
<eval-in__> hanmac1 => [:approximate_recommendation] (https://eval.in/209491)
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> how sad, I preferred the spermy version
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> :P
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<hanmac1> shevy!!! my travis build are passing for rwx ;P
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<Liendre> hi
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<davidsong> Hi, I'd like some advice on the most reasonable way to refactor this few lines of code: https://gist.github.com/bitplane/240127115f5c3fef97b7
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<davidsong> in Python I guess I'd loop around a tuple of class and file names, but from what I've seen I'd expect Ruby to be able to deal with pluralization and resolving a class from a name
<apeiros> davidsong: parametrize file and model. use CSV.foreach
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<apeiros> rails has stuff for inflections (ruby itself does not)
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<davidsong> what if I renamed the csv files to be the singular class name?
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<davidsong> is there a way to get the class from a string?
<apeiros> personally I'd still prefer explicit parametrization of both instead of inferring
<apeiros> you can't get a *class* from a string, but you can get a constant. and since classes are usually referenced by constants…
<apeiros> see Module#const_get. toplevel namespace is Object.
<davidsong> thanks
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<davidsong> okay so Object.const_get('ClassName').create!(stuff...)
<davidsong> ?
<shevy> I hate the ! there
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<shevy> davidsong can't you try it in irb? first try: product = Object.const_get('Product') and see whether this yields what you wanted; product.class
<davidsong> I'm just pumping a seeds database full of mess and don't want validation to complain too much
<shevy> if it resides in a specific namespace, you may have to use the toplevel namespace of said object
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<davidsong> erm seeding my database with exports from the current system
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<DylanJ> camel case constants: yay or nay?
<DylanJ> (for a project with no established constant style of course)
<davidsong> I'd guess nay
<IceDragon> DylanJ: CamelCase
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<catphish> DylanJ: i have only seen UPPER_CASE for constants, except where they're classes
<IceDragon> unless majority is mixed case o_e
<nateberkopec> If I have a hash of numbers and I want to convert it to a hash of strings, whats the fastest way to do that? {133 => 134, 134 => 135} becomes {'133' => '134', '134' => '135'}
<IceDragon> yeah, what catphish said
<IceDragon> I misread it as class ;(
<apeiros> DylanJ, catphish: I only use CamelCase constants. no SCREAMING_CASE
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<catphish> nateberkopec: maybe this: hash.each{|k, v| hash[k] = v.to_s}
<DylanJ> I personally prefer CamelCase constants but I was just curious what others are using.
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<apeiros> nateberkopec: map + either to_h (ruby 2.1) or Hash[] (1.8.7+)
<DylanJ> catphish: don't modify something you're iterative over!
<catphish> nateberkopec: oh, you want to change the keys too
<DylanJ> iterating*
<catphish> DylanJ: why not change the values?
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<catphish> anyway my answer isnt relevant
<DylanJ> sec
<hanmac1> >> {133 => 134, 134 => 135}.map{|args| args.map(&:to_s) }.to_h
<eval-in__> hanmac1 => {"133"=>"134", "134"=>"135"} (https://eval.in/209502)
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<catphish> hanmac1's answer is the best :)
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<nateberkopec> thx!
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<Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! Can I code an IRC bot to connect 2 or more IRC servers by cinch?
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<jhass> Emmanuel_Chanel: mmh, did you try just running multiple instances in the same process? (Thread.new { bot.start })
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<Emmanuel_Chanel> jhass: No... I thought that there is a way with only one instance. So I couldn't think of the multi-thread function of ruby.
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<Emmanuel_Chanel> jhass: Thank you for answering me!
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<greygrissom> where are the coments
<greygrissom> oh i see
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<jhass> ?
<greygrissom> does anyone has any advice on dns server problems with gem installs
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<greygrissom> is there a particular version that doesn't have to worry about Marshal -your-dns-needs-serious etc
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<jhass> ah the dns needs attention thingy
<jhass> OS X right?
<greygrissom> indeed
<jhass> comcast?
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<greygrissom> fyi, i believe so
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<greygrissom> dns settings are 208.67.220.220 / 222.222 (oepn dns)
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<greygrissom> thanks
<jhass> or google for "dns needs attention comcast", tons of results by now
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<jhass> interesting that it didn't bite you till now
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<jhass> the switch was like two months ago
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<greygrissom> thanks a ton
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<P-NuT> Hey there, can anyone tell me how to convert the time "Thu Oct 23 15:04:18 2014" to epoch?
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<jhass> P-NuT: what exactly do you have. That string?
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<tercenya> p-nut: Time.parse('Thu Oct 23 15:04:18 2014').to_i
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<tercenya> also useful: Time.now.to_i
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<olivier_bK> someone have a tutorial for upload a file with mechanize ?
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<unshadow> So, why wont this work ? : "sslContext = OpenSSL::SSL::SSLContext.new(:verify_mode => OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_NONE)" it returns "TypeError: no implicit conversion of Hash into String"
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<jhass> doesn't say it takes a hash
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<unshadow> cant I always do this: "sslContext = OpenSSL::SSL::SSLContext.new(:verify_mode => OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_NONE)" when this is possible: sslContext.verify_mode = OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_NONE ?
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<jhass> no
<jhass> you can't
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<unshadow> oh.... so this is it then :\
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<unshadow> I read http://rubylearning.com/satishtalim/ruby_hashes.html, at "Using Symbols as Hash Keys" it show how you can do that, I presumed this was true for all cases, anyway thanks :)
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<jhass> I don't see where it says that
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<jhass> also the last statement is confusing
<jhass> not being able to use the colon syntax is the general case, the exception is for using symbol keys
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<unshadow> Sorry, (too late here) its was in here: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/03/27/ultimate-beginners-guide-to-ruby-on-rails/ here is a pic of the sentence: http://screencloud.net/v/2K0i
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<workmad3> unshadow: that does point out that it's specifically rails...
<jhass> This is talking about ActiveRecord::Base subclasses
<workmad3> unshadow: ruby != rails
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<jhass> "on the model" is the key here
<unshadow> yeha... I figured as much, just thought it was some kind of a general truth, nevermind thou
<jhass> also avoid learning rails with 5 years old guides
<unshadow> XD true
<jhass> check the official docs at guides.rubyonrails.org
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<apeiros> bah, truths in programming hold for centuries!
<unshadow> I was trying to help someone in our company who is learning ROR, I'm more of a ruby guy and dont care too much about WEB development, I presumed that ruby on ralis is just ...well.. ruby on the web , guess not XD
<jhass> apeiros: you said it. _programming_. Talking about rails here though
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<apeiros> rails truths even hold for millenia!
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<jhass> where millenia == 1.month ?
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<unshadow> btw, you guys think that ROR is ok for a first backend web development language ?
<jhass> it'll probably be fine
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<unshadow> first as in the first on to learn*
<jhass> it helps to understand the underlying ruby code though
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<apeiros> ROR is a framework, not a language
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<havenwood> the only rack adapter i'm aware of that gets mistaken for a lang :P
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* catphish is hating on rack and wants an alternative
<apeiros> what's wrong with it?
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<apeiros> (alternatives are almost always good anyway)
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<Liendre> I am goin to finnish codecademy ruby and I dont want to!!!
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<Liendre> I am afraid I am going to sink in the next step :((((
<Liendre> those codewars katas are too much for me now
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<doug1> testing
<jhass> doug1: doesn't work
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<catphish> apeiros: i need an interface where i can stream headers and body from the same block
<jhass> Liendre: maybe that means you went through it too fast? :)
<doug1> I'm having trouble iterating over an irb template. it's an array of hashes and I need to remove the trailing comma
<Liendre> maybe jhass
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<catphish> rack separates the streaming of content from the app logic, which is not ideal, and breaks a particular use case
<jhass> doug1: Please share your code on https://gist.github.com
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<doug1> jhass: i got nuthin so far
<doug1> some magic use of map and join is about as far as I've worked out
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<jhass> then share input and wanted output at least
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<myghty_> hey guys
<myghty_> I got a stupid question
<myghty_> I ran apt-get install ruby on debian
<myghty_> but when I now hit ruby --version it says /usr/local/bin/ruby: No such file or directory
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<doug1> jhass: well, here's the simple version without any commas...https://gist.github.com/dgarstang/c285c63fb161fb784186
<myghty_> where is ruby located normally by default?
<jhass> myghty_: what does `which ruby` say?
<doug1> jhass: rather, with commas sorry
<myghty_> nothing
<myghty_> jhass:
<doug1> oh that's the wrong output. Darn it
<Liendre> jhass, will you help me with one thing?
<jhass> doug1: are you generating JSON with ERB?
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<doug1> jhass: Yes
<jhass> Liendre: no, but you can just openly ask into the channel and I might answer or somebody else might
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<jhass> doug1: why don't you build a ruby hash and convert it to json? hash.to_json
<Liendre> ok ok
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<doug1> jhass: is a ruby has like a normal hash? This is in chef, so not necessarily full blown ruby
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<jhass> doug1: so you might ask #chef for the "right" solution in chef
<doug1> jhass: nah they kicked me out after asking so many questions
<jhass> myghty_: did you enter it with or without the ` ?
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<doug1> well darn... <% @rs_members.to_json -%> didn't work...
<treehug88> doug1: seriously? seems like there must have been some attitude involved (on some side)
<myghty_> both
<jhass> doug1: <%=
<doug1> ah
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<doug1> treehug88: sure. I'd of course say it was all theirs. :)
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<jhass> myghty_: anything for command -v ruby ?
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<myghty_> I just went around it by manually installing ruby 2.x
<doug1> jhass: thanks. that worked, but I've realised I might need to use a loop as I need to add something to the end of each host element...
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<jhass> doug1: I know 0 chef. You don't have anything to modify the hash prior calling the template?
<Liendre> It always return nil. And I wish it to return the same number given
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<doug1> jhass: i could, but modifying it on the fly would be easier... inside a chef template, it's just irb.. so whatever you got should work. :)
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<jhass> >> def always(var=''); @var = var; @var = Proc.new {|n| n }; end; always
<eval-in__> jhass => #<Proc:0x41e60d70@/tmp/execpad-3f0482d32bdb/source-3f0482d32bdb:2> (https://eval.in/209540)
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<doug1> jhass: I basically just need to iterate over an array of hashes, and print two elements, id and host... and remove the trailing comma
<jhass> Liendre: ^ proc not nil
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<Trudko> Guys I have undefined method `-@' for "":String error when sorting the collection and t.note is empty string http://pastie.org/9670595
<Liendre> ok
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<jhass> doug1: "print"? just don't print a trailing comma then?
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<jhass> Trudko: t.note is a string, String has no operator to negate it (-)
<jhass> or t.total_points_per_round is
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<doug1> dunno
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<doug1> i can myself spending hours on this
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<jhass> doug1: with much guessing: <%= @rs_members.map {|host| {"_id" => host["id"], "host" => host["host"]} }.to_json %>
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<jhass> note that this is normally nothing you would put into a template
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<doug1> jhass: for reasons I'll spare you, it's better than putting it directly into cheff
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<P-NuT> Hi all,
<P-NuT> I have done a gem install mysql, but when I require it in a script using : require 'mysql' I get the error
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<Liendre> :x
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<P-NuT> .rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.3/lib/ruby/2.1.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:55:in `require': cannot load such file -- mysql (LoadError)
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<P-NuT> Why would this be?
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<jhass> P-NuT: a) you've done the install in a different environment b) the install failed and you ignored its output. Besides use the mysql2 gem
<jhass> Liendre: ?
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<P-NuT> mysql2 does the same error
<Liendre> jhass, reading some proc and function theory now
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<P-NuT> I have installed it using gem install also
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<jhass> P-NuT: make a gist with the output of gem env, rvm current and rvm info
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<Trudko> jhass: ofc
<P-NuT> err.. How do I do that?
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<Trudko> jhass: btw so i should short by length, question is what to do if string will be nil? should I just initiliaze as "" for example?
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<jhass> that's one possibility
<jhass> you also could do .to_s.size
<digital-ghost> Can anyone recommend a web resource for learning the basics of the data base side of things w/Ruby and ActiveRecord? Have been working specifically with frontend Rails for a long time, now trying to understand more about dbs/migrations/ar etc. I've read up and down on the RailsGuide pages for AR, but it's not really a "rails" specific thing, more Ruby/OOP. Having trouble locating something to push me to the next learning stage.
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<jhass> digital-ghost: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ help
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<Trudko> jhass: even better
<digital-ghost> As I said.. not a Rails thing I'm looking for. ><
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<jhass> you only talked about rails for 80% of your question though
<digital-ghost> Because that's where I've been looking for information, only to realize that's not where I need to be.
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<jhass> the only thing that didn't include rails was saying that you're not looking for rails
<digital-ghost> <- new programmer, you spend a lot of time in the wrong places. That's why I'm here asking for help.
<wasamasa> why are you using activerecord for something non-rails?
<digital-ghost> I'm looking for information on working with DBs (in the context of the Ruby side of things). Forgive me for struggling on how to communicate what I really don't know.
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<crome> I think the rails guide is actually a pretty good start
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<doug1> jhass: null values for <%= @rs_members.map {|host| {"_id" => host["id"], "host" => "#{host["host"]}.dev-volatile.slicetest.com"} }.to_json %> :(
<digital-ghost> That's where I've been sent to numerous times, even if I wasn't working with Rails. But a lot of it goes over my head.
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<jhass> doug1: what do you mean?
<digital-ghost> I haven't been able to find something that's very easy for someone totally new to data modeling/manipulation.
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<doug1> iterates over all array elements, but the id comes out null and the host comes out ''
<jhass> "data modeling/manipulation". Isn't that called programming?
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: the less orm, the better
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<doug1> jhass: ie [{"_id":null,"host":".dev-volatile.slicetest.com"},{"_id":null,"host":".dev-volatile.slicetest.com"},{"_id":null,"host":".dev-volatile.slicetest.com"}]
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<digital-ghost> wasamase, thats really what I am looking for. the ORM has way to much "magic" for me, and just lacking the basic understanding of how information is being passed around.
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: you should also look for the tab-key, it helps with completing nicknames :P
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: Yea, know it, was just lazy there.
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: Apologies for butchering your name.
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<wasamasa> it's lazier to type one or two letters and hit tab than typing out the full name the wrong way
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<jhass> doug1: I don't see how your example couldn't have generated something like that
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<P-NuT> Ok, I have worked it out. my env gemdir is different in irb and shell. How do I make it the same as IRB?
<doug1> jhass: it was based on your guess. :)
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<jhass> doug1: and that was based on your earlier attempt
<doug1> now I'm confused. :(
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<jhass> P-NuT: are you sure you started gem install and irb in the same environment?
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<wasamasa> digital-ghost: I'd try out sequel or datamapper
<jhass> doug1: that's what I saw from chef so far. Confused people ;P
<P-NuT> yes
<doug1> jhass: ruby and I don't get along. just the way it is
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<jhass> I'd say chef is not the optimal entry ;P
<Liendre> I am trying some stuff but I think I shall step back and do tryruby again :|
<jhass> Liendre: how exactly do you call that?
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<Igneous> I've got something that's spawning a ton of objects that aren't being cleaned up (ultimately resulting in the ruby vm balooning its heap, and my system killing the process for OOM reasons). I suspect it's an issue with my ORM (mongoid), Is there a good way to go about debugging this?
<doug1> I mean, I can't even find any examples of iterating over an array of hashes in irb
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<wasamasa> digital-ghost: the main issue I have with ORM is that they default to less than optimal queries and you need to invest effort to make slow ones performant again
<Liendre> jhass, look at the comment
<jhass> Igneous: ActiveRecord for this reason has find_each which limits the number of concurrently instantiated objects, maybe mongoid has something alike?
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: I have a feeling this still isn't what I'm looking for exactly. For instance, I do not know SQL, period.
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: I'm looking for fundamentals w/dbs.
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<doug1> jhass: still think that should work
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<wasamasa> digital-ghost: uh, then use the db adapters themselves?
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<wasamasa> digital-ghost: there's more to databases than learning the sql syntax
<tuelz> What's the best route to go when I need to contruct json a certain way i.e. with the rocket and a colon instead
<jhass> Liendre: so if you do Proc.new {|n| } it expects to be called with .call(3) for example, but it gets called without an argument and so n is nil
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<tuelz> err that is without the rocket
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: I've found this series of posts for instance pretty enlightening: http://patshaughnessy.net/2014/9/17/20000-leagues-under-activerecord
<jhass> tuelz: are you confusing ruby hashes with json maybe?
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: I actually read and watched the video there.
<Liendre> jhass, I am calling it with an n
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<jhass> Liendre: not in your examples
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: is that why you were asking about activerecord?
<Liendre> jhass, It was Proc.new {|n| n}
<Igneous> jhass: well the issue isn't that I need batching, it's that the things that are being instantiated aren't being freed. I'll do a Model.all.map { block } in a sinatra 'get' block, and at the end of the get, that stuff should be cleaned up (right?)
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: Yea.
<tuelz> jhass: this icontact api is really fussy about the raw json it accepts, I can post json over postman all day, but can't figure out how to do it via ruby
<Liendre> everybody ask to jhass :)
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<jhass> Igneous: no, you can't predict GC runs
<Igneous> there are only ~20 documents in that particular model that I'm mapping (and it should stay that low), so I thought that was safe :/
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<digital-ghost> wasamasa: I almost picked up his book, Ruby under a Microscope, just yesterday. But it was still a bit beyond me.
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: otherwise I bookmarked this listing to understand databases from ground up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8240176
<Liendre> Maybe one day I know enough to help you :)
<tuelz> #to.json produce 'key' => 'value' - I want 'key': 'value'
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<jhass> Igneous: you can force GC runs with GC.start but that's generally slow
<Igneous> jhass: is there any chance that using jruby would help alleviate this?
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<digital-ghost> wasamasa: BINGO man, perfect https://github.com/rxin/db-readings
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<Igneous> I'm on a pretty recent MRI
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: THIS is what I was looking for.
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: it's mostly papers
<olivier_bK> some has already testing to upload file with mechanize ?
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<wasamasa> digital-ghost: some about how to implement stuff, some about basics (like, hard requirements you can only fulfill partially)
<jhass> tuelz: no, it doesn't, that looks .inspect, not .to_json
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<wasamasa> digital-ghost: and I've found a book somewhere in the comments that looked promising
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: I'm okay with papers, I'm looking for high level information, so that I can pick out the stuff I need to search on. But not knowing the language to even talk about this has been painful
<jhass> Igneous: ask headius
<jhass> :P
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<wasamasa> digital-ghost: yep, "Database in Depth" by chris date
<headius> eh?
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<jhass> Igneous has memory usage issues and wonders if jruby performs better there ;)
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: My problem began when I created a new program, started out with just raw Ruby. But started looking at RoR, and realized, I had little to no clue on how to really fashion model objects.
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: that might shorten the amount of stuff to plough through
<Igneous> It's basically to the point where if I hit a particular rest call, my VM will baloon by about 4MB
<wasamasa> digital-ghost: anyways, I'm glad I could help
<Igneous> I've never seen it cleaned up, but I think it should be... I'm not assigning any globals or doing anything crazy, unless mongoid is :/
<Liendre> jhass, omg I cannot believe it. This was the solution. (I unlocked it :( )
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: Thanks, this is a step in the right direction . looking for something like this.
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<jhass> Liendre: yep, it's that simple
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<digital-ghost> wasamasa: Also checking on the datamapper github page, might be able to play with this over the weekend.
<Liendre> jhass, I think that I tried that one :X
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<jhass> Liendre: you can construct the proc a bit shorter proc { n }
<digital-ghost> wasamasa: Sucks being a graphic designer moving into programming w/no training lol
<tuelz> jhass: hmm, gotcha, not sure what my problem is then. thanks
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<jhass> Liendre: what this teaches you is that the proc is what we call a closure, it keeps a reference to the used variables
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<Liendre> jhass, But I thought that I can't use same variables in the method and in the proc!!??
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<jhass> in fact you can
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<Liendre> yes. I see now
<Liendre> :)
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<Liendre> thanks for your patience
<jhass> depending on what "use" is it'll use the outer one or shadow it, that is create a new one with the same name
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<Igneous> okay, something naughty is going on.. With a route that's just get '/gc/start' { GC.start }, every call to it baloons the vm by a couple megs
<Igneous> dafuq
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<jhass> oh yeah, GC runs also consume memory
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<wasamasa> hum, I thought that GC would try to not allocate extra memory?
<Liendre> functions to be passed as arguments...
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<jhass> we have some many versions of them by now, I lost track which does what
<wasamasa> at least the CL guys emphasize not ever consing when it can be avoided
<Liendre> interesting. So there can be a closure of a closure of a closure of a function??
<jhass> Liendre: up to your stack limit, yeah
<Liendre> lol
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<Liendre> I like
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<Liendre> nah
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<Liendre> I come back to ruby videos
<Liendre> I am not ready to face the darkness yet
<Igneous> holy shit I found it.. It had nothing to do with mongoid
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<doug1> In irb... can I nest variables?
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<Igneous> was assigning a class variable in a before block in sinatra.. something about the way that I was assigning that class var (instantiated from an iffy gem) was spawning a bunch of celluloid actors
<Igneous> so every request it'd spawn 10 celluloid actors
<Igneous> derp.
<doug1> Ie https://gist.github.com/dgarstang/c60e042470e3d1f42124 ... first line is not valid because of my nested attempt. Second line in the loop is ok
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<doug1> sigh
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<doug1> argh
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<jhass> doug1: it's ERB, irb is the repl shipped with ruby
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<doug1> in this... <%= @rs_members.map {|host| {"_id" => host["id"], "host" => "#{host["host"]}.xxx.slicetest.com" } }.to_json %> how would I replace xxx with another variable?
<doug1> Because replacing xxx with <%= @some_var %> doesn't work
<jhass> you already used the construct needed
<jhass> right in front of it
<jhass> #{ruby code}
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<doug1> jhass: it's #{ } ? but...
<doug1> it's a template var
<doug1> normally accessed via @template_var
<jhass> #{@template_var}
<doug1> oh jeez
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<doug1> i'll try that
<jhass> <% ruby code %>. In ruby "foo" is a string. Inside a string you can interpolate ruby code with #{}
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<jhass> and I'd still built the whole thing as ruby structure and to_json it one time
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<doug1> yep, thanks. god i got no idea with ruby. That works
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<Liendre> omg jhass now i understand everything!!
<Liendre> it was so silly
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<Igneous> boom. https://github.com/RiotGames/ridley/issues/283 -- does that issue make sense? or did I come across looking like a complete idiot?
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<doug1> still shovelling shit up hill.
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<doug1> ok, now this doesn't work... <%= @rs_members.map {|host| {" _id : #{host["id"]} ", "_id" => host["id"], "host" => "#{host["host"]}.#{@node.chef_environment}.slicetest.com" } } %>
<doug1> I need to control the output format, so "_id" => host["id"] is no good. tried to use " _id : #{host["id"]} " and it complains
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<doug1> I can't convert to json, so this for mongo comsumption and the id has to be numeric.. no quotes. to_json adds quotes around it
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<jhass> then it's a string in ruby
<jhass> {"_id" => host["id"].to_i }.to_json
<jhass> maybe try tryruby.org
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<headius> Igneous: pretty good chance that JRuby could help if your issues are GC-related
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<doug1> oic
<doug1> what about as_json?
<headius> Igneous: oh, I see...it was actually a bug
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<doug1> oops jhass rather
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<ferr> My methods are almost identical, any suggestions to shorten it? http://pastie.org/9670762
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<jhass> ferr: just pass in session_key and user as parameters to the method
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<jhass> def facebook; sign_in_with_omniauth(User.from_omniauth(request.env["omniauth.auth"], "devise.facebook_data"); end
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<Igneous> headius: I will still probably end up using warbler and jruby+tomcat.. just because it simplifies the deployment process quite a bit.
<Igneous> it's been on the table for a while
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<headius> sounds good...let us know if you run into any trouble :-)
<apeiros> jhass: btw., you've seen that .xyz has been registered as tld?
<apeiros> mrzyx.xyz
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<jhass> phasing the nick out though
<jhass> already got hass.email ;)
<yxhuvud> not can.hass.email?
<apeiros> .email is a tld now too?
<jhass> yxhuvud: that's included ;)
<jhass> apeiros: yep
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<apeiros> I'm still not sure what to think of this new gtld craze :-S
<yxhuvud> nice
<jhass> .web and .mail are still in the contention sets :/
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<apeiros> it's all about the money…
<jhass> yeah, have you seen the latest auction results?
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<yxhuvud> some are more than a little silly. Like .vermögensberater
<yxhuvud> just a bit obscure..
<jhass> haha, didn't notice that one
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<yxhuvud> iirc, it holds the record for the currently longest one
<jhass> I'm rather surprised .email and .mail didn't went into the same contention set
<jhass> there's even some plural vs singular ones delegated by now (forgot which ones..)
<apeiros> I see lots and lots of people who get scammed and phised because of the new gtlds
<yxhuvud> no, wait, vermögensberatung may be the record holder. almost the same anyhow
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<jhass> jeez, vermögensberater won as single-registrant model?
<jhass> that's insanse
<jhass> *insane even
<yxhuvud> both of them!
<jhass> not as insane as google getting .dev as single-registrant I guess
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<apeiros> apple has not registered .apple yet?
<jhass> it's contracting currently
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<kaneda^> hey all, if one uses the ruby net library, what is the default version of ssl/tls that is used when none is specified explicitly?
<kaneda^> i assume tlsv1
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<yxhuvud> do you mean 1.0, 1.1 or 1.2?
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<graft_> individual companies are getting tlds now?
<graft_> RIP the internet
<kaneda^> yxhuvud: i mean, is it possible that it defaults to sslv3 for some reason
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<kaneda^> asking because there are many services removing sslv3 support after poodle
<kaneda^> and i although i can specify the type explicitly i was hoping this wouldnt be necessary
<havenwood> kaneda^: the defaults are good in ruby 2.2.0-preview1, you have to set it yourself prior
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<yxhuvud> kaneda: either it is ok that your users use sslv3, or it isn't. make that choice, and stick with it
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<kaneda^> yxhuvud: that's rough, ty
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<yxhuvud> I implemented a gui for disabling those methods and ciphers today ._.
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<kaneda^> yxhuvud: i updated the one project for which i'm directly responsible to explicitly use tlsv1 after poodle, but now i'm using some things that are not explicitly set
<kaneda^> so i'm trying to put in issues to github and such
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<ericwood> am I missing something or is there not an array method like reject that returns the items that were removed?
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<yxhuvud> I see. thankfully we are only dependent on our own code.
<yxhuvud> ericwood: you mean like select?
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<yxhuvud> execpt that doesn't remove items, (and neither do reject (only reject!))
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<jhass> if you want both results use .partition
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<ericwood> hmmm okay thanks
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<kaneda^> just delete would return the item removed as well
<yxhuvud> jhass: yes, or possibly group_by depending on exactly what is needed.
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<ericwood> partition might be what I want
<ericwood> yeah I think I'll use this
<ericwood> gracias amigos
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<laudo> is there a way of querying a hash that it returns only the value pairs that are nil?
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<jhass> laudo: select {|k,v| v.nil? }
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<laudo> jhass: thanks what i am trying to do is this http://pastie.org/9670926 . I have a query which returs all floating ips for an opstack instance and I want to filter them if the value of instance_id is nil
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<jhass> that's no hash there
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<jhass> guess: .select {|address| address.instance_id.nil? }
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<laudo> jhass: awsome! so now I have conn.addresses.all.select {|address| address.instance_id.nil?.first.ip gives me back the first ip. Is it possible to list all? So a conn.addresses.all.select {|address| address.instance_id.nil?.all.ip
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<jhass> .nil? returns true or false
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<jhass> neither of those have a first method
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<jhass> so you make me guess again (that's not good!) you actually have .select {|address| address.instance_id.nil? }.first.ip
<jhass> then you can just map
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<jhass> .select {|address| address.instance_id.nil? }.map(&:ip)
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<laudo> cool
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<Liendre> hey jhass Do you like https://teamtreehouse.com/ ?
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<jhass> first time I see it
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<Liendre> It seems good
<Liendre> I could do the ruby thing in the 14 free days , I think
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<havenwood> >> {aim: true, nada: nil, number: 42}.rassoc nil
<eval-in__> havenwood => [:nada, nil] (https://eval.in/209604)
<havenwood> laudo: ^
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<havenwood> can't miss a rare chance to use #rassoc ;P
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<laudo> havenwood: whatsup
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<laudo> jhass: worked perfect
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<laudo> jhass: just to confirm my actual output was an array not a hash right? http://pastie.org/9670926#6,9 As I has [ ] and not {[ ]}
<jhass> No, it is a Fog::Compute::OpenStack::Addresses
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<jhass> which inherits Fog::Collection which inherits Array actually, so it is an Array but not just that
<ramfjord> it's really sad to me that (5..1).overlaps?(1..3) => false
<ramfjord> from activesupport
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<havenwood> ramfjord: #rubyonrails
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<havenwood> ramfjord: no overlaps in ruby \o/
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<havenwood> they just; include?(other.first) || other.include?(first)
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<havenwood> >> (5..1).include? 3
<eval-in__> havenwood => false (https://eval.in/209605)
<Morrolan> Huh?
<ramfjord> lol, that's even worse
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<Morrolan> >> (5..1).to_a.include? 3
<eval-in__> Morrolan => false (https://eval.in/209606)
* Morrolan scratches head
<havenwood> empty array
<ramfjord> >> (5..1).to_a
<eval-in__> ramfjord => [] (https://eval.in/209607)
<Morrolan> Oh.
<Hanmac> ramfjord & Morrolan 5..1 is not the same like 1..5
<Morrolan> Yea. Makes sense, somehow.
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<jhass> also .include? is optimized to n >= first && n <= last
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<havenwood> >> 5.downto(1).include? 3
<eval-in__> havenwood => true (https://eval.in/209608)
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<fartface> So, I'm going through Chris Pine's "Learn to Program" book, and I'm on Chapter 10 (https://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/chap_10.html). He's saying that procs are cool because you can pass them into a method, whereas you can't pass a method into a method.
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<fartface> So is the benefit to using procs a benefit of scope?
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<fartface> Like what's the advantage of passing a proc into a method? In the book he says it's because you can decide whether or not a proc even gets called, but I don't see the difference between that and a method, since he's using a conditional to determine whether to call the proc anyway?
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<csmrfx> well you can have many different kinds of logic in the block that you proc
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<fartface> I guess it's tough to see the potential with the super simple examples that are included
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<jhass> right, it'll make more sense once you stumble upon an actual usecase
<jhass> and also after working with blocks for a while
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<jhass> just keep it in the back of your mind as a fact for now
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<fartface> Thanks
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<oniMaker> Is there a nice library out there for writing CLI scripts?
<oniMaker> i.e. one that handles flags, input, all that stuff
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<wasamasa> there's like dozens of libraries
<wasamasa> most of them lack extensive docs
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<oniMaker> wasamasa: steering toward commander... have any personal recommendations?
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<wasamasa> oniMaker: I'm still using slop
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<oniMaker> wasamasa: that one looks good too
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<wasamasa> oniMaker: well, it's the scarce docs that annoy me
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<oniMaker> commander looks like it has good docs
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<wasamasa> or that some stuff is lacking
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<borodin> anybody - please tell me a good 'getting started' webpage for sinatra. I've read http://www.sinatrarb.com/intro.html
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<borodin> wondering if there's anything like 'Agile Web Development With Rails' but for Sinatra
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<havenwood> oniMaker: TTY has some neat features as well: http://peter-murach.github.io/tty/
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<oniMaker> too many choices
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<oniMaker> that one looks good too, but I'm going to try commander this time
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<oniMaker> most of this will be learning ruby anyway
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<oniMaker> Is there a way I can set an ENV variable to be used for all system calls in a script?
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<bricker`work> oniMaker: Set it when you run the script, eg. YOUR_COOL_ENV=something ./rubyscript.rb
<bricker`work> something like that
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<oniMaker> bricker`work: I'd rather set it as part of the script
<oniMaker> bricker`work: looks like I can just do a system command and export it
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<havenwood> oniMaker: def system_with_env *args; system({'JAM_ENV' => 'lingon berry'}, *args) end
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<havenwood> oniMaker: then your system will know which jam to use
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<oniMaker> havenwood: delicious, thank you!
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<banister> apeiros mariokart?
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<phat4life> why does this cause my system to run out of application memory: ("1." + "99999999"*999999999).to_f
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<ericwood> >> ("1." + "99999999"*999999999).to_f
<eval-in__> ericwood => argument too big (ArgumentError) ... (https://eval.in/209620)
<ericwood> it's a really large number
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<phat4life> this is ruby 1.9.3
<cek> don't you find fun that break and next behave equal to return in a lambda block?
<pipework> Not enough application memories.
<ericwood> >> "99999999"*999999999
<eval-in__> ericwood => argument too big (ArgumentError) ... (https://eval.in/209621)
<jenrzzz> you should download some more RAM
<phat4life> it doesn’t throw an exception, it runs a kernal task. i let it run for a while and i mas useing 72GB of virtual memory, and 12GB of swap
<ericwood> honestly, that's too huge for anything
<ericwood> don't do that
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<cek> >> proc { break(123); 234 }[]
<eval-in__> cek => break from proc-closure (LocalJumpError) ... (https://eval.in/209622)
<ducklobster> borodin: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920019664.do Sinatra Up and Running (O'Reilly, written by Konstantin Haase, creator of Sinatra)
<phat4life> i only ran it for science
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<ducklobster> borodin: First couple chapters are good intro to using Sinatra, middle chapters talk about Sinatra internals, last chapters some more real world usage stuff
<pipework> phat4life: The problem is you don't have enough memories.
<ericwood> "99999999"*999999999 is "99999999" 9999999 times
<ericwood> that's a lot
<jenrzzz> what if you pass it to BigDecimal.new instead of calling #to_f?
<pipework> ericwood: And then represented as a float.
<phat4life> the point is, it doesn’t throw an exception it just runs until my system goes into kernal panic
<jenrzzz> on OS X?
<phat4life> yosemite
<phat4life> and mavericks
<phat4life> its ruby 1.9.3 though so it doesnt’ really matter
<phat4life> mri
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<ramfjord> should it really be too big?
<ericwood> it's the string allocation that's hurting you
<ramfjord> only 80 megs of characters
<ericwood> it's allocating that "9999999" string 9999999999999999 times
<ericwood> I'm just guessing
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<ericwood> so, to store that string it's 7.2GiB
<ericwood> assuming ascii
<ericwood> which is not the case, so double it
<oniMaker> Is there a ruby shortcut for ANDing a variable plus another variable together? i.e. foo = foo && bar
<phat4life> must be more than that, i was using 12GB of swap before i killed the process
<oniMaker> maybe foo &= bar or something?
<ericwood> yeah, it'd be 7.2*2
<ericwood> so that makes sense
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<phat4life> ooohhhh my coworker left his computer unlocked, i am chaning his terminal font to comic sans
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> phat4life: lol
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL> phat4life: if you want I have a zero-space-font
<Fire-Dragon-DoL> you may want to use that, lol
<phat4life> no time i must not be caught
<havenwood> phat4life: when you have time, alias ls to repeat the font change then ls
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<fartface> Or set a keyboard shortcut for "d" from character "f"
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<phat4life> i also like to pipe random characters to say as a background job
<fartface> I'd say switch left and right mouse clicks, but I'm guessing you don't use the mouse much
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<havenwood> phat4life: alias cat="echo \"(=^.^=)\""
<phat4life> oohhh i like that one
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<havenwood> phat4life: or: echo 'alias cat="echo \"(=^.^=)\""' >> .bash_profile
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<havenwood> last a little longer ;)
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<benzrf> fun trick:
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<benzrf> echo "echo 'sleep 1 >> ~/.bashrc'" >> ~/.bashrc
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<waxjar> why would you do that? :o
<jhass> function cd() { mkdir -p "/tmp/$1"; builtin cd "$1" }
* pipework gets benzrf a fun rock to play with for his birthday
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<benzrf> jhass: lol
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<benzrf> waxjar: for your eneimes
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<waxjar> lol
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<mg^^> ok, that cd function is just pure evil
<jhass> it's missing a /tmp/ though
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<mg^^> true, but the spirit of it is all there to see
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<mg^^> also, cd / would land you right in /tmp (when corrected) and that would be fairly obvious
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<mg^^> I may need to do this to our FNG to test his troubleshooting skills
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<phat4life> sounds like a good interview question
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<oniMaker> How can I get the pid of a shell command started in the backround with & ?
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<oniMaker> using system, backticks, etc.
<phat4life> oniMaker: i know this one sec
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<zenspider> oniMaker: in ruby or in shell?
<oniMaker> zenspider: in ruby
<phat4life> oniMaker: backtickets return a value
<phat4life> you can get the pid from that
<oniMaker> ok, I'll check that out
<phat4life> or is it $?
<oniMaker> $?
<phat4life> i think $? is a global variable
<oniMaker> I saw that before
<zenspider> backticks return the string of the output of the cmd run
<oniMaker> or maybe it's better to name the process? Is that a thing?
<mg^^> Isn't $? the exit code?
<zenspider> $? is the exit code of the cmd run
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<mg^^> I don't think backticks can give you a PID for the subprocess
<phat4life> t = `do something`; raise "r #{$?} --- #{t}" unless $?.success?
<oniMaker> you can name processes with `exec -a foobar` right?
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<phat4life> oniMaker: you can get the pid from t = `do something`; raise "r #{$?} --- #{t}" unless $?.success?
<oniMaker> mg^^: I can use system, that's fine
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<phat4life> wait you need to add 2>&1 i beieve
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<oniMaker> & puts it in the background
<phat4life> so id would be t = `do something 2>&`; raise "r #{$?} --- #{t}" unless $?.success?
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<oniMaker> `do something 2>&1 &` yes?
<jhass> oniMaker: I think you want Kernel#spawn
<phat4life> yeah
<mg^^> yeah, what are you trying to do, exactly?
<mg^^> We should have asked that first :)
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<zenspider> open3/4 is also an easy way to get this done
<oniMaker> running a small php server as part of testing
<zenspider> mg^^: yes, that's a much better question
<oniMaker> like php -S localhost:8000 httpdocs/index.php &
<oniMaker> just want to be able to kill it afterward
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<jhass> so far that sounds like you want to add an alias or function to your ~/.${SHELL}rc
<mg^^> So you want to run a program in the background, and be able to kill it if it takes too long?
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<mg^^> and also capture the output, presumably
<oniMaker> mg^^: no, I want run that program, run the tests, then kill the program
<oniMaker> no, output doesn't matter
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<oniMaker> it looks like Kernel.spawn will do it
<mg^^> Well, for that I'd use fork and exec, being an old unix guy
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<havenwood> oniMaker: ruby -run -ehttpd httpdocs -p8000
<oniMaker> havenwood: can you run a php application that way?
<havenwood> ah, php
<jhass> oniMaker: Kernel#spawn gives you the pid, just run Process.kill pid once you're done
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<oniMaker> jhass: perfect, thank you
<havenwood> oniMaker: i didn't catch the php, wrongly assumed html
<oniMaker> havenwood: no worries
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<b3itz> hey guys, working on an assignment and I keep getting "unexpected end, expecting keyword_end" http://pastebin.com/xg1wVULP help!
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<b3itz> just learned ruby the other day lol. obviously not fluent
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<mg^^> yeah, spawn basically combines fork+exec into one operation, that's definitely what you want
<oniMaker> mg^^: awesome, thank you!
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<b3itz> oh the error is throwing on line 77
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<zenspider> b3itz: indenting your code properly is important for understanding
<mg^^> you've got an unbalanced if or something
<zenspider> b3itz: line 7 has a while
<zenspider> looks like there is no end for it
<jhass> oniMaker: my guess is the missing condition on line 58
<zenspider> if you indented properly, it would be obvious
<jhass> bah b3itz ^ sorry
<oniMaker> mg^^: so with that, I don't need to redirect output with 2>&1 or put it in the background manually with & right?
<havenwood> b3itz: indent with two spaces
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<mg^^> oniMaker: Nope
<zenspider> and yes, 2 spaces per indent
<oniMaker> mg^^: cool, thanks
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<b3itz> zenspider: derrrrr I don't know how i missed that :) thanks
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<zenspider> simple newb mistake. we've all made them
<mg^^> I thought I'd hate that little 2 space indent when I started using Ruby
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<havenwood> b3itz: typically rubyists set the browser to two-space soft tabs, so hitting tabs enters two spaces
<mg^^> coming from a 4-space world
<phat4life> i never mad a newb mistake. i was born a pro
<havenwood> s/browser/editor
<zenspider> indentation is important. get an editor that understands ruby. let it do it for you. reindent the whole file and mistakes will melt away
<mg^^> but I really like it
<phat4life> i use sublime text
<phat4life> you can have it show spaces and whitespace
<jhass> havenwood: just wanted to ask you how to do it to my browser :(
<oniMaker> mg^^: since you're a linux guru... would it be better to name the process and depend on that rather than the pid? For example if the script crashes, then it will still know which process name to look for next time
<jhass> oniMaker: write a pidfile if you need that functionality
<zenspider> oniMaker: that sounds like a mistake. you want to know when the pid dies
<oniMaker> jhass: good point
<mg^^> I agree with jhass
<oniMaker> ok... I don't know enough about managing processes to know much about naming etc.
<mg^^> well, it's complicated actually
<b3itz> thanks havenwood
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<mg^^> writing the pid is actually not sufficiently safe
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<mg^^> for all purposes
<mg^^> but for *most* purposes it's fine
<mg^^> the problem is when your script crashes, the managed process also ends, and something else starts up with the same PID down the road
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<mg^^> if you go blindly killing stuff, you might get the wrong thing
<jhass> systemd-run to the rescue :P
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<oniMaker> mg^^: ohh ok... then this isn't a candidate for a pid file
<oniMaker> if the process gets killed when the script crashes/ends already
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<oniMaker> just storing the pid as a variable so I can kill it within the context of the script should be fine
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<jhass> yeah
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<mg^^> yeah, that's generally fine for the vast majority of purposes
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<oniMaker> ¡muchas gracias!
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<mallu> can someone tell me how I can achieve this? http://pastie.org/9671351
<shevy> mallu with *
<mallu> shevy : can you please expand on that
<jhass> first, second, third, forth = test
<shevy> >> test = [1, 2, 3, 4]; first, second, third, fourth = *test; second
<eval-in__> shevy => 2 (https://eval.in/209653)
<jhass> no need for the *
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<jhass> I don't see the benefit over test[0], test[1], test[2], ... though
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<mallu> thanks guys
<mallu> is it possible to do test.each do ?
<jhass> sure
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<shevy> mallu yeah
<shevy> mallu you iterate over your Array that way
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<mallu> test.each { |n| first = n second = n}
<mallu> Is it like that?
<shevy> you forgot a ; there
<shevy> and another problem is that this will be local to your {} block
<jhass> not sure what you want to achieve with that
<mallu> I want to be able to call first below in the script
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<shevy> mallu well the way above works or?
<shevy> first, second, third, fourth = test
<jhass> where does test come from?
<shevy> from mallu
<shevy> :-)
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<jhass> well, if you define it as literal, why not assign the locals in the first place
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<shevy> mallu in general, if you already have an array than you can use it lateron
<mallu> test is an array coming from a search I'm doing. Search is retunring its result as an array
<shevy> so doing "second * third" is the same as "test[1] * test[2]"
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<mallu> but I am not sure how many in the array
<jhass> then you probably want to iterate over it
<shevy> you can query the amount of elements your Array has by applying the method .size
<zenspider> mallu: either your problem description is bullshit, or you do know how many are in the array
<shevy> and the positional index method [] or .fetch will work
<zenspider> line 1 defines test as an array literal, which means it defines how many things are in it
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<zenspider> line 5-8... define a FIXED number of local variables, so you HAVE to know how many are in the array
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<mallu> zenspider that was an example.. I'm searching for instances in AWS and not sure how many are in the array
<zenspider> mallu: then your original problem description is bullshit
<jhass> zenspider: we're already past the "bad example" stage
<zenspider> mallu: what are you ACTUALLY trying to do?
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<mallu> zenspider maybe you should see ... at the end of the array
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<zenspider> mallu: maybe you should describe your actual problem instead of a bullshit abstraction that doesn't actually represent your problem
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<zenspider> assigning an "unknown amount" to locals isn't going to work
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<Igneous> oh crap
<Igneous> can I not use named parameters with jruby?
<shevy> I don't use jruby but I am going to say... no!
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<zenspider> Igneous: named parameters? do you mean method arguments or something else?
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<Igneous> oh yeah I guess they're usually called keyword arguments
<Igneous> sorry
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<zenspider> ah. I don't know where jruby is with 2.x compatibility atm
<zenspider> ah. they're only up to 1.9.3 according to jruby.org
<zenspider> so, no. not yet
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<Igneous> ah, just had to set compat.version to 2.0
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<Igneous> I guess I'm enabling experimental shit but whatever, seems to work
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<pizzaops> What exactly is this syntax in Ruby? It's hard to google: 2<<50
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<eam> pizzaops: bit-shift left
<eam> same as in C
<pizzaops> oh. I have no idea what that is.
<eam> well, it's the same as 1<<51 !
<pizzaops> lol
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<pizzaops> well now it's totally clear to me
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<tmoore> pizzaops: syntactically that's just calling the << method on Fixnum http://www.rubydoc.info/stdlib/core/Fixnum#%3C%3C-instance_method
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<eam> pizzaops: you're familiar with binary representation of numbers?
<eam> 0010 is the number two?
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<pizzaops> I am familiar with binary yes
<eam> << shifts all the digits left (multiply by two) that many times
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<eam> so <<1 is similar to * 2
<pizzaops> interesting
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<pizzaops> So 1<<1 = 2 because it goes from 00000001 to 00000010?
<pizzaops> is that correct?
<eam> yes
<pizzaops> cool, I get it tnow, thanks
<eam> >> is shift right, or integer divide by 2
<eval-in__> eam => /tmp/execpad-b556a60c646f/source-b556a60c646f:2: syntax error, unexpected keyword_or ... (https://eval.in/209656)
<eam> oops, heh
<eam> there are some differences between this and real math, but mostly irrelevant in a high level context like ruby
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<benzrf> >> 0.1 + 0.2
<eval-in__> benzrf => 0.30000000000000004 (https://eval.in/209658)
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<existensil> something wrong with rubygems? getting: Gem::RemoteFetcher::FetchError: Errno::ECONNREFUSED: Connection refused - connect(2) for "bb-m.rubygems.org" port 443
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