<Blizzy>
I mean, what does the POST request look like.
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<shevy>
you do this in your .rb file or?
<shevy>
sinatra has "get" and "post"
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<shevy>
post '/' do
<shevy>
"Triggered via POST"
<shevy>
end
<shevy>
have you blindly been simply typing Post in irb
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<shevy>
and then concluded that it does not work ;)
<shevy>
by the way, the default convention is
<shevy>
name of project here
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<Blizzy>
I meant the POST request of the bot.
<shevy>
name of project <-- as constant
<shevy>
POST request of the bot?
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<Blizzy>
how does the bot retrieve the information of the eval.in website?
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<benzrf>
Blizzy: it made by same guy
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<Blizzy>
oh ok.
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<Phonetiki>
rehi
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<porfa>
hello, im new to scripting and im wondering how i can run a ruby script and send a parameter with it, like “test.rb www.site.com” ? currently im editing the script everytime i need to change the “ url = ‘www.site.com’
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<pipework>
porfa: Look at ARGV
<porfa>
thank you!
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<shevy>
ok
<shevy>
I'm gonna install ruby on a windows machine soon!!!
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<postmodern>
oh i think another middleware is logging them
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<shevy>
aha!
<shevy>
an intercepter!
<shevy>
kill that bastard
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<shevy>
postmodern what are you building with sinatra?
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<shevy>
I understand the basics of sinatra but I have a hard time extending things with it
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<porfa>
hey can i make nokogiri click a link it finds and fetch the destination url?
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<rpag>
mechanize can do that
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<rpag>
nokogiri parses xml/html, doesn't make requests
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<porfa>
thanks for the tip!
<rpag>
sure
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<porfa>
i am new to this data scraping i am doing, i have never used any sort of programing before so i am learning alot, could you tell me if i should keep on using nokogiri or mechanize can do all the stuff i need?
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<Oberon4278>
So I just barely installed Ruby on my Windows machine, and the first time I fire up the interactive.... thingie, I get "DL is deprecated, please use Fiddle."
<Oberon4278>
What are DL and Fiddle, and how can I make the upgrade / change?
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<pipework>
Oh dear. Windows and ruby. I've got to go iron my socks.
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<benzrf>
>windows
<benzrf>
instal gentoo
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<pipework>
lol
<benzrf>
bye
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<rpag>
rigel, ive never ran into a problem of blocks being hard to debug
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<porfa>
how do i make nokogiri return me the link value instead of the text to that said link? for ie: ( puts doc.xpath('//*[(@id = "Downloads")]//*[(((count(preceding-sibling::*) + 1) = 11) and parent::*)]//a ').text ) gets me “filelink.jpg” and what i am looking for is “www.balblbla.com/filelink.jpg”
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<sevenseacat>
what is the actual HTML for the link?
<sevenseacat>
because if its just to 'filelink.jpg', you'll have to prepend the rest manually
<porfa>
hey sevenseacat like you said, ( doc.xpath('//*[(@id = "Downloads")]//*[(((count(preceding-sibling::*) + 1) = 11) and parent::*)]//a ')[0]["href"] ) it outputs me “ /doc.ashx?416628 “
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<porfa>
how do i add the “url = www.testing.com” to the output ?
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<shevy>
sevenseacat it's a link to a mouse, you can click it!
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<porfa>
can anyone help me out in ruby/nokogiri ? im getting this output “GOOD” from “ doc.xpath(' //*[(@id = "_c3890_uxHeaderBox")] ').collect {|node| node.text.strip} “ but i want it to add “, you made it!” to the output..
<sevenseacat>
porfa: you can easily append strings together in ruby.
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<porfa>
“append strings” thank you ! the language barrier is the worst when i need to google search
<shevy>
your encoding is weird porfa
<shevy>
€�
<porfa>
earlier today i was asking in “”freenode “does anyone knows what to use to obtain certain specific text data from a website? like i wanna say “hey get me the stuff after this div” and it would?” no one could help me out but someone said something about a “web scraper” so i found out about ruby..
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<porfa>
what do you mean? my irc client encoding?
<shevy>
yeah
<shevy>
there are funny chars, lemme screenshot it
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<porfa>
im using osx / colloquy … :( i only used mirc and irsii in myw whole life
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<headius>
havenwood: truffle is pretty interesting, but even without truffle we have a completely new compiler framework...we may give truffle a run for it
<headius>
and there's my completely random hours-later reply for the evening... ttfn
<shevy>
porfa yeah but there are other osx users here as well and I don't get weird chars. anyway
<itsafreecountry>
Does anyone know how I can write RSpec test for omniauth callback controller when the user CANCELS it upon signing up?
<porfa>
whoa~~~looks like irc mahjong
<shevy>
porfa you can use ruby open-uri, and open(URL_HERE), and parse the content you receive there
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<headius>
porfa: mIRC rocks
<shevy>
so that is step 1 - obtain that string/data
<shevy>
when you have the string, you have to parse that mess for step 2
<headius>
that was my first IRC client... I miss /trout
<porfa>
i’ve alredy worked that part out! and step is alredy done, the parsing… not i need to formating part and then if possible an output to a file!
<shevy>
headius yeah, mine too - I remember we used to play perl webgames and used mIRC to coordinate our guild-action for play
<headius>
oh nice
<shevy>
the 9/11 attack I remember because I was mIRC-ing when someone mentioned "America is under attack"
<porfa>
that takes me back… /trout
<headius>
I got in trouble at my university for downloading warez off some underground network
<headius>
I was just stupid
<porfa>
the 911.. i remember that day too, i was on irc too that morning.
<shevy>
porfa ok good - you already have splitted up the tasks into smaller components
<porfa>
shevy: !!! :)
<shevy>
I don't know for a simple way to obtain a particular div; I guess people may recommend nokogiri. I would probably use a regex, like one used in .scan, and somehow find that div (probably it has a unique id?)
<shevy>
or do you simply need just the part of the string after the particular div
<headius>
damn you nokogiri for being the go-to answer
<porfa>
im using nokogiri and xpath, it’s working amazing!
<shevy>
then you only need to find out the position
<shevy>
big_fat_string[position_here..-1]
<shevy>
aha good
<shevy>
I hate XML too much to use xpath
<porfa>
i use that selectorgadget to get my xpaths.. it’s so easy …!
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<porfa>
i have changed my encoding from utf-8 to ?western (ascii)? i hope its ok now
<itsafreecountry>
How do I say for rspec to CANCEL the signup?
<itsafreecountry>
sign_in fb_user get :facebook expect(response).to redirect_to rooth_path
<itsafreecountry>
like by clicking sign in fb will ask to proceed or not
<itsafreecountry>
then i want to cancel
<sevenseacat>
itsafreecountry: you stub out the response from facebook
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<sevenseacat>
to be a cancel response
<shevy>
porfa haha awesome
<shevy>
let me make a screenshot
<shevy>
shevegen.square7.ch/screenshot.png
<shevy>
porfa notice how the weird block chars suddenly are gone - but that ? confuses me hahahaha
<shevy>
IRC can be very entertaining
<porfa>
oh that was ust my typo, sorry about that hah
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<porfa>
well im googling on how to append strings on ruby!
<godd2>
+ or <<
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<shevy>
yes
<shevy>
+= or <<
<shevy>
or ble = 'yippie'; foo = 'bla'+ble
<shevy>
porfa << is faster than +=
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<porfa>
lol2=doc.xpath(' //*[(@id = "Gegevens")]//p ').collect {|node| node.text.strip} ?? now when i puts lol<<lol2 it gives the lol ouput in one line, and the lol2 in a newline
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<godd2>
step 1: gem install pry, step 2: on line three add require 'pry', step 3: line 29 add binding.pry
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<godd2>
then when you run your code, ruby will stop at the place you put 'binding.pry' and you can check what variables hold what values at that moment
<porfa>
ty very much, i?ll try to analize the output the best i can
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<godd2>
pry is a very usefull debugging gem
<godd2>
A++ would recomment
<porfa>
sorry im looking at it, im clueless i only see my code
<godd2>
recommend*
<porfa>
it?s alredy installed and i?ll leave it that way as i cotinue learning this ruby language im sure it will be quite usefull
<godd2>
pry is useful for learning ruby
<pipework>
Pry is useful for many things.
<porfa>
[1] pry(main)>
<porfa>
how do i fetch the values now?
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<pipework>
It probably upsets shevy to no end that it includes methods to read documentation.
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<porfa>
hah
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<godd2>
profa just type the variable name and press enter
<godd2>
its just like irb
<pipework>
porfa: Do you know what a REPL is?
<porfa>
no but wiki does, im reading it
<pipework>
porfa: It's like a console for a programming language runtime.
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<porfa>
[1] pry(main)>
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<pipework>
porfa: You know irb, right?
<porfa>
yes, ive rested my commands there before making the .rb file
<godd2>
porfa just type 2 + 2 and press enter
<porfa>
tested*
<pipework>
porfa: pry is like irb.
<pipework>
Except you can use it to easily drop into any part of any program by calling `binding.pry` inside the source.
<godd2>
pry will execute any line of ruby you type into it.
<godd2>
also, typing help will list things you can do in pry
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<godd2>
and you can actually navigate into objects and inspect them from the inside.
<godd2>
much the same way you navigate files and folders.
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<porfa>
i got it!! i made it atleast in the psy shell its working
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<porfa>
it tastes so good i could get used to this
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<godd2>
hehe, well some would consider it a "developement smell" to be good at your debugging tools, but I say as long as you're learning, all the better :)
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<arup_r>
Hi.. Anyone using Amazon dynamoDB ?
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<arup_r>
I am not sure the JSON API version number of DynamoDB...
<arup_r>
Any pointer ?
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<godd2>
what that says is "i want everything from the 6th character to the last character"
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<knight2>
Your Ruby version is 2.1.3, but your Gemfile specified 2.1.4
<knight2>
But my .ruby-version is ruby-2.1.4, my Gemfile has 2.1.4, and my current ruby -v shows 2.1.4
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<knight2>
Oh damn, just solved it. Had to run "spring stop"
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<porfa>
hmmm so in my script i have an array for img1 through img9 and for this URL i am using to test the script it works fine, because the product page i am scraping has 9 pictures of the product, but i tried on a page that only has 7 pictures and the script breaks, how to prevent it from breaking when certain instruction is not possible?
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<porfa>
lets say it tries to fetch img8 but there is none, instead of quiting i want it to try img9 and then carry on with the other operations
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<apeiros>
porfa: proper way: check for how many images are there and fetch that many. less proper way: rescue the exception raised.
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<porfa>
apeiros: i have been reading why such thing shouldn?t be done, but since this is a really small script i will go with th exeception raised method, though i have no idea how to do it
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<maasha>
Ruby friendly HTML grid framework for static pages?
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<maasha>
I have played around with bootstrap before, and I am currently looking at lemonade.
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<shevy>
hey atmosx
<atmosx>
hey shevy how's life?
<atmosx>
I'm at the library should be studying diabetes but I'm trying to build-up a speedy continous testing environment! :-P
<atmosx>
how r u?
<shevy>
atmosx ah not too good, not too awful either. got home from an exam in zoology just now, now I am contemplating what next to do
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<shevy>
yeah I have to study as well but right now I am procrastinating again :P
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<shevy>
atmosx my concentration drops down in a library right half an hour after reading stuff
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<shevy>
then reading becomes boring
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<shevy>
so I changed things, I try to not read but instead scan for new information, as much and as quickly as possible and note it down
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<atmosx>
I like reading in the library
<atmosx>
generally speaking it helps
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<atmosx>
my problem however is, if I can use guard to re-launch foreman instead of rerun
<atmosx>
hehe
<shevy>
hehehe
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<atmosx>
guard-shotgun does just that
<atmosx>
I think I'm about to finnish...
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<shevy>
finnish?
<shevy>
where people from suomi live? :D or finish hehe
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<atmosx>
yeah
<atmosx>
finish
<atmosx>
lol
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<atmosx>
but finnish is cool too
<atmosx>
I like Finland
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<atmosx>
never been lol but small country ice everywhere can't go wrong
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<Psy-Q>
the ice melts in summer
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<Psy-Q>
this summer was the horror in finland, really hot
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<j416>
Psy-Q: lol, yeah right.
<j416>
Psy-Q: @ summer in finland
<Psy-Q>
j416: were you there this summer?
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<j416>
various places
<Psy-Q>
i was only in helsinki, it killed me already
<j416>
hehe
<Psy-Q>
and the hotel had the window opening to some sort of industrial device that pushed more heat into the room
<j416>
heat is subjective I suppose
<Psy-Q>
yeah :) it was 30+ sometimes, though
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<Psy-Q>
a few summers ago at tuska festival it was 34 as well, that was extreme
<j416>
but I agree that when it becomes hot in our countries (I'm on the other side of the water from you) the means we have to deal with it are quite poor, compared to countries with hotter climate
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<Psy-Q>
ah, i just go to finland regularly. i'm in switzerland, where we had the wettest coldest summer in recorded history
<j416>
ah :)
<j416>
hehe
<Psy-Q>
so going to finland was like going on some sort of beach vacation
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<j416>
I spend a lot of time in .jp and summers there are like... you can't walk 500 metres without wanting to take a shower
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<j416>
after getting used to that I've come to think our hot summers are rather pleasant :P
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<Psy-Q>
hehe. a friend invited me to japan for next summer. i don't wanna go in that case
<Psy-Q>
since i'll be in canada during winter as well, that'll be some contrast
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<j416>
don't worry
<j416>
it's hot as hell at times
<j416>
but everyone is in the same situation
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<j416>
so the moment you're thinking blimey, my t-shirt is all wet now from me sweating
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<j416>
you realise that's true for most of the other people as well :P
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<j416>
and apart from that detail, summers in japan are realky quite nice.
<j416>
really*
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<_1_Nirmal>
hii
<j416>
Psy-Q: but, spring is a nicer season to visit.
<j416>
</ot>
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<Abhijit>
whats the best way to execute remote commands via program? other than bash ssh. does ruby has some nice module?
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<workmad3>
Abhijit: well, there's net/ssh, or you could potentially investigate distributed-ruby
<Abhijit>
ok
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<Psy-Q>
j416: ye, sakura and all! </ot> too
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<atmosx>
hm
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<atmosx>
when I load 'pry' I read the database of the 'test' env instead of the 'dev' env
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<atmosx>
It's almost two days that I do configuration instead of coding
<atmosx>
blah
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<waxjar>
i've got a few classes that need to behave differently depending on a piece of information that's only available at runtime. how would you handle that?
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<jhass>
waxjar: I prefer delegation since that doesn't void method caches
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<jhass>
and allows you to even change the target after instantiation and passing around
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<waxjar>
can you delegate at runtime?
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<jhass>
of course
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<jhass>
Look at SimpleDelegator in delegate stdlib
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<rpag>
waxjar, its ruby, everything happens at runtime :-P
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<waxjar>
ah, fair enough, what I mean is on the instance level
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<jhass>
did you look at SimpleDelegator yet? The examples make that pretty clear
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<waxjar>
yeah, that might work, thx :)
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<waxjar>
it's a bit shitty, because some of the "implementations" might have extra methods, dunno how i'm gonna handle that
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<jhass>
if you remove the abstraction and explain your real problem someone might have a nice idea
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<waxjar>
an IRC client library. an example: some servers support half-ops, some don't, some implement rfc1459, some implement 2812
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<waxjar>
it's a mess :(
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<jhass>
mmh, what does it do that cinch doesn't? aka why reinvent the wheel? :)
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<waxjar>
for fun :)
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<jhass>
I probably wouldn't try to hide the distinctions from the user
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<jhass>
you want to connect to FooIRCD? client = FooIRCDClient.new(...) You want to connect to BarIRCD? client = BarIRCD.new(...)
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<jhass>
then it's clear that they might share a common base interface, but just because a method exists on one, it doesn't need to do so on the other
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<jhass>
"if you want to be able to swap quickly, only use the base interface, but it's your job"
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<waxjar>
hmm, that seems a lot easier to implement
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<jhass>
the other possibility would be to have all methods on all implementations (the base interface even) and raise NotSupported exceptions all over the place
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<jhass>
which would be slightly better than NoMethodErrors
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<waxjar>
of course, you'd have to know which ircd you're going to connect to, and that's not really possible until you've connected to it :|
<jhass>
I'd claim it is
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<jhass>
In that scheme you could share the base functionality in a parent class and have that work on all ircd's
<jhass>
so that if you don't care about the special features you just client = Client.new(...)
<waxjar>
no, i meant your first example FooIRCd.new, etc :)
<jhass>
yes
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<jhass>
"oh, that network I'm connecting to is fooircd and I want to use its halfops feature! *goes and replaces Client.new by FooIRCDClient.new"
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<jhass>
though since it only happens once at program boot, using extend on an instance is actually justifiable, you just hide the details from the user
<jhass>
so then the question then becomes how you make clear that it NoMethodErrors or not depending on the network you connect to
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<jhass>
which can be improved with the NotSupported execeptions approach to communicate clearer, but remains trial and error since it's hard to write docs for
<rpag>
i would just use method_missing to delegate onto One/Two
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<waxjar>
hmm, yeah. i think that's the best I'm gonna get. thx jhass :)
<jhass>
rpag: SimpleDelegator does exactly that, except it already has the most common mistakes when doing so already covered
<rpag>
yeah, i prefer to not use delegator in the stdlib because method_missing is more transparent and it isn't that hard to implement method_missing as a delegate
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<rpag>
i find method_missing to be more transparent
<i42n>
jhass: thanks for your help. I could fix it. Now it runs 500% faster.
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<jhass>
workmad3: sheepman doesn't that mean it's undefined in cp1251 too?
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<workmad3>
jhass: it could do... no idea :)
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<jhass>
sheepman: I'd verify you're reading the file in the right encoding in the first place. If you do the file is broken. You can workaround by using String#encode with its undef, replace etc. options
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<jhass>
or String#scrub if you're on a recent ruby
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<workmad3>
jhass: String#encode transcodes the bytes and will error if there's something it can't convert
<fenak>
sometimes i get really frustrated with all this encoding stuff after i upgraded ruby.. lol
<jhass>
workmad3: it has options to do replacement
<jhass>
instead
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<workmad3>
oh yeah...
* workmad3
forgets the capabilities of encode at times
<workmad3>
comes from trying to never touch anything other than utf-8 :)
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<workmad3>
sheepman: converting to utf-16 would have the same problem... there's an undefined character in there that can't be converted to another encoding ;)
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<jhass>
sheepman: your file is not valid cp1251, simple as that
<sheepman>
hmmm wish i could just track it down but the error doesn't give any clues to what line its on
<sheepman>
the character i mean
<jhass>
sheepman: open it in an hex editor and search for it
<sheepman>
good plan!
<sheepman>
thanks guys :)
<workmad3>
fenak: I get frustrated that so much of the world still defaults to crap like ISO8859-* or Windows-* encodings :)
<jhass>
>> "☃"
<jhass>
still not :(
<workmad3>
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<fenak>
workmad3: yeah.. and here in Brazil iso-8859-1 is SOOOO common!
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<fenak>
workmad3: the world should be utf-8...
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<jhass>
does windows default to utf-8 yet?
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<apeiros>
sadly zxing's qr code reader defaults to utf-8 too. made it a bit difficult to read binary data.
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<fenak>
jhass: hmm.. i don't think so.. until 7 i think it wasnt
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<jhass>
there's your problem
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<fenak>
jhass: yeah.. that's true.. i work with email.. i use linux, but the world keeps sending emails encoded in every possible way..
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<fenak>
jhass: and it's not uncommon that the email itself arrives bad formatted.. or with bad encoding..
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<fenak>
jhass: or lying about its encoding.. lol..
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<jhass>
well, email does provide capabilities to properly declare encoding at least, there the MUAs are to blame
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<fenak>
you see, there are RFCs for this, and a lot of people/systems dont care..
<shevy>
oh encodings!
<shevy>
what did jhass say about one encoding in particular ... :-)
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<fenak>
there are emails sent that comes from php mailers coded really bad that are very strange.. lol
<fenak>
but.. encodings..
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<shevy>
hey don't worry
<shevy>
not even the bot here can deal with encodings properly
<eval-in__>
havenwood => /tmp/execpad-6a1be63d89f4/source-6a1be63d89f4:2:in `<main>': Use RbConfig instead of obsolete and deprecated Config. ... (https://eval.in/215291)
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<foureight84>
what do you guys recommend using on your dev env to reload ruby code if you have unicorn and nginx running? i'm trying to get rerun to send HUP signal but doesn't seem to be working. rerun -s HUP "unicorn -D -c /var/www/ruby/unicorn.rb -E development"
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<pontiki>
i don't use either of those in dev/test :/
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<hololeap>
i want to have a "rescue" clause that matches multiple exception classes and for each one passes the exception to the variable "e"
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<hololeap>
how would i write this?
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<hololeap>
is it `rescue ExceptionOne, ExceptionTwo, ExceptionThree => e`
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<hololeap>
or is it `rescue ExceptionOne => e, ExceptionTwo => e, ExceptionThre => e`
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<apeiros>
as you can see, in the former case, both Foo::Bar and Foo are part of the nesting and are searched for constants. in the latter case, only Foo::Bar is part of the nesting and searched for constants.
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<apeiros>
typo, Class instead of class
<eam>
ah
<eam>
>> class Foo; class Exception; class Bar < Exception; end; end; end; Foo::Exception::Bar.superclass
<hololeap>
i just don't understand it fully. why does it matter if you define it as `class Foo; class Bar` as opposed to `class Foo::Bar`? is there any good resource i can look at that explains this?
<skolman_>
Anyone here has a ticket for the ruby conference?
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<louism2wash>
hey guys, how would I pipe a txt file into a ruby script in the command line? I am using 'file.txt | ruby_file.rb' and inside my ruby_file I am reading from stdin. However I get the message that 'ruby_file.rb command cannot be found'
<bricker>
I'm getting EINVAL - Invalid Argument when trying FileUtils.chown("somebody", "something", "/path/to/some/file.png"), has anybody seen this before?
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<jhass>
louism2wash: either add a shebang and mark the script as executable or use | ruby ruby_file.rb
<bricker>
I get it when running the command in bash too
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<bricker>
oh, it has to do with the NFS mount
<louism2wash>
awesome, thanks guys
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<elfuego>
how do I escape a string in a variable?
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<jhass>
elfuego: "escape"?
<elfuego>
I am storing a directory location in the variable e.g. /var/lib/app elfuego
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<elfuego>
jhass:
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<jhass>
and?
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<kireevco>
elfuego: why do you need to escape it?
<jhass>
escape it how even?
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<j2p2>
oh
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<j2p2>
use "'s
<j2p2>
and do \
<j2p2>
wait you shouldn't need that for that slash
<j2p2>
ignore me
<dmuff>
Im having problems installing nokogiri
<j2p2>
what kind of problems
<elfuego>
when I put it as a string literial in the code it works fine, but when I read the directory location from an environment variable the code doesn’t work
<dmuff>
getting "libxml2 is missing"
<dmuff>
anyone had this before? seems like a common problem
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<elfuego>
I am totally new to ruby, but the concept is the same for other programming languages jhass kireevco
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<jhass>
elfuego: "doesn't work"
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<jhass>
you claim to be a programmer, you can do better than that
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<jhass>
dmuff: well, do you have libxml2 and its dev headers installed?
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<jhass>
elfuego: and no, "escape" is not a well defined operation, it heavily depends on the target context
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<apeiros>
prisons!
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<apeiros>
though, isn't that a source context?
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<jhass>
well, it has an implied target context
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<dmuff>
jhass: yes I think so
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<Areessell>
Is there a difference between a format and an encoding?
<apeiros>
is there anything similar between format and encoding?
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<dmuff>
Ive tried to install, specifying the path using --with-xml2-include
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<Areessell>
I don't really know. Is transforming data like { first: 'John', last: 'Doe' } into a string such as "john.doe" referred to encoding or formatting?
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<jhass>
certainly not encoding
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<fenak>
Areessell: I don't know if it would be corret saying a Hash -> String is a formatting too.
<apeiros>
Areessell: that's called serialization or marshalling
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<apeiros>
fenak: IMO no, that's not formatting. formatting is something you do with scalar -> scalar. most often string -> string.
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<fenak>
Areessell: maybe a transformation or a kind of convertion? lol
<dmuff>
I have verified that all these paths exist
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<wallerdev>
thats quite the install command lol
<fenak>
benzrf: with a serialization i should be able do reconstruct the same object deserializing it, no?
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<Areessell>
That might not always be the case.
<Areessell>
For example, base64
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<apeiros>
base64 is a case of encoding
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<fenak>
exactly
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<apeiros>
not formatting, not serialization
<fenak>
i wouldnt call that serialization, since i'm losing information and therefore cannot reconstruct this over the wire..
<apeiros>
for a base64 encoding, you already need your data serialized
<Areessell>
Here's where I get confused. I've seen data formats, data encodings, file formats, and file encodings.
<dmuff>
yea, its ridiculously long lol
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<fenak>
apeiros: could we call it conversion?
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<rubyonrailed>
I need some help with hashes. I have a hash that looks like this: {14=>1, 12=>1} But the keys and values will always be different and could have more. How do I grab them in pairs, for example; I want the key 14 and value 1 and want to be able to use them in my program
<fenak>
not quite right either.. lol..
<Areessell>
For example, WAV files are RIFF files which is a binary format/encoding, holding chunks of Hash-like data. One of the chunks has the audio data. But this audio data is also formatted/encoded in LPCM, 32-bit floats, etc.
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<Areessell>
Is the file a format and the audio data an encoding? Are they the same? Or both a case of serialzation?
<Areessell>
It's damn confusing
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<pontiki>
okay, i'm now adding codecs to the list of things i hate
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<pontiki>
timezones, character sets, and codecs
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<Areessell>
Pretty spot on list
<fenak>
rubyonrailed: you could iterate it with each |k, v| or each_pair
<fenak>
rubyonrailed: with each_pair you have an array of [key, value] for each iteration
<rubyonrailed>
Thanks
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<ducklobster>
can anyone point me to what the scoping rules are for this type of thing?
<ducklobster>
and is the solution to do something like a.dup.each ...
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<jhass>
ducklobster: v is a local variable, you assign the local variable a new value, that's all
<eam>
what kind of escaping?
<eam>
whoops, mischan
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<Sou|cutter>
ducklobster: that's... not scoping really
<jhass>
ducklobster: whereas []= is a method call, it happens on the object v points to
<ducklobster>
jhass: yes, but in the second example, the value isnt locally changed
<ducklobster>
jhass: ohhh
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<ducklobster>
jhass: that makes sense, i didn't consider []= as a method call but a memory access of sorts
<pipework>
ducklobster: Then you'd be wrong.
<jhass>
it's a method call, you can even define it for your own objects
<ducklobster>
also that #dup solution I presented does not work
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<Sou|cutter>
what are you trying to do?
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<ducklobster>
Basically make anything I do in the #each loop immutable
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<ducklobster>
I mean now that I know about the scoping and []= I can avoid it
<jhass>
yeah, chances are Enumerable, Hash or Array provide better means for what you're actually trying to do than assigning inside an each loop
<Sou|cutter>
if the v object is mutable, you just have to avoid doing things that mutate it
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<ducklobster>
thanks for the help guys!
<Sou|cutter>
just because you have a reference to it within the block doesn't mean you have a whole separate object. It's a variable pointing to the same object
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<ducklobster>
yeah, I am a bit fuzzy on when things are references and when they are their own ownject
<ducklobster>
object*
<jhass>
it's always the same
<rj46>
if kernel is hardened grsec/pax and i use RBEnv to start e.g jekyll serve should I add pax flags to ~/.rbenv/ruby-version
<jhass>
variables and parameters are always references
<rj46>
and its gems ?
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<ducklobster>
by parameters you mean those passed to a method?
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<jhass>
or those passed to a block
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<jhass>
the only difference between locals and parameters is where their definitions are, so it's actually not even a very useful distinction in ruby
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<jhass>
in fact local_variables returns params too
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<apeiros>
params are locals
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<ducklobster>
i see
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<apeiros>
the only thing in code which are "their own object" are literals
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<thebastl>
hi any advise on a gui toolkit for ruby?
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<thebastl>
i already googled ;) everythings seems inactive or not worth the time
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<spstarr>
How to split a string if there is a numeric value in it?
<spstarr>
ie: "Level2".split(...)
<spstarr>
so split string if there is a number
<spstarr>
regex
<jhass>
/\d/ ?
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<j2p2>
^
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<soahccc>
scan if you would like to keep the actual number
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<j2p2>
thebast1 there is 'shoes'
<j2p2>
you have to run it in kind of its own environment for it to work though
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<spstarr>
well, the result should be str = "level2".split(/\d/)
<spstarr>
str[0] = 'level', str[1] = '2'
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<spstarr>
str = "level2".split(/\d/) puts str <-- shows only 'level'
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<spstarr>
so str is not showing both parts of split
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<spstarr>
or use .scan()?
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<spstarr>
str = "level2".scan(/\d+|[A-Za-z]+/)
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<siwica>
what do you think would be the benefits of ruby over python?
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<havenwood>
siwica: chunky bacon and foxes whilst saving two letters
<apeiros>
your resume is 2 chars shorter
<apeiros>
^5 havenwood
<havenwood>
apeiros: hehe :)
<j2p2>
also you can say "look at this gem" and people won't hate you
<riceandbeans>
ruby is cleaner and easier to read
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<havenwood>
fewer snakes
<apeiros>
no issues with "python 3000 vs. python 2"
<riceandbeans>
yeah but ruby breaks on minors
<riceandbeans>
that's a stupid argument
<riceandbeans>
1.8 -> 1.9
<apeiros>
riceandbeans: so what? it's still "use the newest ruby" :-p
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<riceandbeans>
2.0-> 2.1
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<havenwood>
riceandbeans: 1.8 is dead, live in the now!
<apeiros>
riceandbeans: also, "breaks on minors" is a stupid argument
<apeiros>
1.8-2.1 were not semver
<riceandbeans>
breaking on major revisions is less bad than breaking on minor revisions
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<j2p2>
can't you see what's going on? that's a python spy trying to tear us apart
<apeiros>
so it's utterly pointless to point at digit position.
<riceandbeans>
that makes us look worse
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<j2p2>
and cause infighting
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<riceandbeans>
I don't like python, but that's a bad arguing point for ruby is all I'm saying
<j2p2>
:p
<apeiros>
riceandbeans: the point is only valid if the project actually says it's semver. which ruby explicitly did not. baseless argument.
<havenwood>
riceandbeans: that's talking about a pre-semantic versioning version of Ruby that the community has agreed to leave in the dust though. better than the python 2/3 debacle by a stretch i think.
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<riceandbeans>
no it's not
<apeiros>
yes it is.
<riceandbeans>
2.0 -> 2.1 had the same issues
<riceandbeans>
but not as extreme
<apeiros>
2.0 was not semver either
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<riceandbeans>
hell 1.9.1 to 1.9.3 broke things
<apeiros>
I guess that's a difficult to understand thing…
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<havenwood>
riceandbeans: 1.9.1 wasn't a stable release
<havenwood>
riceandbeans: ever
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<apeiros>
yeah, I see, you don't understand that there are other schemes than semver. good thing I have no intention talking to walls.
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<havenwood>
riceandbeans: Starting with Ruby 2.1.0 it's semantic versioning going forward. *In the past* the Ruby 1.9.1 was not a stable release, 1.9.2 and 1.9.3 were by many seen as a kind of release candidate for 2.0.0. Now we're in better days, where things are semantically versioned and the older versions have expiry dates approaching.
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<havenwood>
riceandbeans: Point just being that there's a nice clean optimistic path forward. Things weren't perfect but they've gotten better and better to the point that we have a clear path out of the muck.
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<havenwood>
riceandbeans: Python is well-mired.
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<havenwood>
siwica: what now, benefits of emacs over vim?!? :P
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<siwica>
havenwood: no need for discussion there
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<siwica>
clear win for the first candidate ;)
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<apeiros>
is preemptive banning ethical? :)
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<TeresaP>
Me? o_O
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<apeiros>
TeresaP: you what? preemptive banning? no, havenwood, for inciting editor flamewars ;-)
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<TeresaP>
apeiros I thought you were talking about banning me for some reason, haha
<TeresaP>
I just joined
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<apeiros>
ah well, yes, banning innocent recent joiners is a hobby of mine.
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<siwica>
recent joiners who don't introduce themselves and contribute a good joke or poem will be banned without prior notification!
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<TeresaP>
lol you never know
<siwica>
you have 5 minutes ;)
<apeiros>
siwica: you ruined it! you gave prior notification!
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<siwica>
I thought I make an exception as the rule is fairly new
<apeiros>
new? I'm doing this for half a century now…
<siwica>
contributing poems?
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<TeresaP>
haha
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<riceandbeans>
I would rather use perl and ruby over python any day
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<havenwood>
Knock knock.
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<apeiros>
who's there?
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<havenwood>
To
<apeiros>
to who?
<havenwood>
To whom**
<apeiros>
to whom?
<havenwood>
Oh, that's the whole joke. :(
<TeresaP>
Sorry for the newbie question, but how does one Extend a class? Someone asked me specifically to "extend" it which I thought was reserved for modules.
<havenwood>
Just pedantic. >.>
<apeiros>
oh :(
<apeiros>
I don't get it :-|
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<apeiros>
TeresaP: every object can be extended. see Object#extend
<havenwood>
I think I just shouldn't tell jokes. That's the typical reception.
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<siwica>
I am still puzzled about the "joke"?
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<TeresaP>
Sorry, but what if there are no modules at all. Both of those examples involved modules.
<havenwood>
siwica: To get a person to say "to who?" so you can pretend to be pedantically correcting them with "to whom?", maybe in-person delivery is requisite.
<Hanmac>
TeresaP: you can only extend and include Modules, but you can extend that Modules into Classes
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<apeiros>
TeresaP: maybe the person uses wrong terminology and means subclassing
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<apeiros>
i.e., class Foo < Bar
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<apeiros>
in some languages, that is called "Foo extends Bar". the terminology should be avoided in ruby due to Object#extend's existence
<TeresaP>
You're probably right apeiros
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<siwica>
havenwood: lol
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<apeiros>
havenwood: maybe native english speakers are a prerequisite
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<TeresaP>
Unfortunately when I do that, I get superclass must be a Class (NilClass given)
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<apeiros>
TeresaP: gist your code please. and maybe provide more context.
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<siwica>
TeresaP: have you defined a superclass? Maybe forgotten to include the respective file?
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<siwica>
apeiros: I am German but after the explanations I got it
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<apeiros>
TeresaP: class SomeClass < AnotherClass < Calabash::IBase # this is what raises. what is it supposed to do?
<TeresaP>
What is what supposed to do
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<apeiros>
that piece of code
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<TeresaP>
Well the SomeClass is my class, and it uses code from AnotherClass
<apeiros>
so SomeClass inherits from AnotherClass. ok. and what's the < Calabash::IBase supposed to do? multiple inheritance?
<TeresaP>
The guy who asked me to 'extend' Calabash::IBase asked me to do that because of a problem with using screenshot_and_embed there
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<TeresaP>
So in order to do that, I have to use multiple inheritance, as I am already inheriting
<apeiros>
I think the easier route is that you just ask that guy what precisely he meant :)
<apeiros>
well, multiple inheritance doesn't exist in ruby
<TeresaP>
well, damn
<apeiros>
a class inherits from precisely one class
<apeiros>
you can include an arbitrary number of modules
<TeresaP>
What if I have AnotherClass inherit from the Calabash::Ibase one?
<apeiros>
that's possible
<TeresaP>
ok, I'll give that a shot
<apeiros>
then SomeClass' ancestry is SomeClass, AnotherClass, Calabash::Ibase
<apeiros>
I'd ask for clarification
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<TeresaP>
Well, the original problem is still happening, but I no longer see the more recent error message I posted about :)
<TeresaP>
Thanks
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<siwica>
You should probably now exactly what you do and and ask him in any case. I suspect thats the way software projects get unmaintainable if one just tries to make it work somehow.
<siwica>
*know
<TeresaP>
He lives overseas so trying various things for a few minutes to see what fixes the original problem is my best bet
<TeresaP>
I'm going to respond with what I tried and ask him if that's what he means, though
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<bricker`work>
postmodern et al, to uninstall a ruby with ruby-install do I just rm -rf ~/.rubies/ruby-1.9.3 etc?
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<waxjar>
yep
<bricker`work>
thanks
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<stephenwithav>
Is there an equivalent rvm command to rake install? (I've never used ruby before.)
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<havenwood>
stephenwithav: it'd be still be rake install
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<stephenwithav>
thanks, havenwood. now to find rake (after gem install rake) so I can add it to my path.
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<stephenwithav>
odd, rake executes when I'm me, but not with sudo.
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<volty>
sudo echo $PATH
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<volty>
nop, sudo su, and then check path and env
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<volty>
sudo which rake, if not found you miss path setup for root
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<rubie>
hi all: im looking to optimize this code, which will add all prime numbers below 2million. my computer is having a problem processing this beastly inefficient program https://gist.github.com/gabrie30/1f0ae2114977a3510718
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<volty>
you should google for algorithms on finding primes
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<gizmore>
is an approximate result enough?
<siwica>
rubie: looking at your code this is not a ruby question but rather a question of finding a good algorithm
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<rubie>
this will keep me busy enough to stay away from the candy tonight
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<gizmore>
the easiest optimization is the +2+4+2 technique, and only test up to sqrt
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<siwica>
rubie: I just had to buy some grocery and was using the tram to get home from the supermarket. Almost back a guy vomited sitting almost next to me in the tram. That's enough reason for me to not leave the house anymore for the halloween bullshit tonight. :)
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<rubie>
haha its spooky out there
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