#ruby on 2017-07-01 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2017-03-29 18:21 havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: https://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.4.1, 2.3.4 & 2.2.7: https://www.ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text to: https://gist.github.com || Rails questions? Ask in: #RubyOnRails || Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby || Books: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ

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10:49 <typeVoid> I'm about to start using JRuby, should I override `puts` or should I define 'println' and use that

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11:11 <Zarthus> overriding puts sounds like a bad idea.

11:12 <Zarthus> why do you feel the need to do this?

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11:39 <dt> #react

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12:49 <darix> typeVoid: use the logger class with a proper target

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15:09 <impermanence> can someone remind where that most excellent (somewhat?) curated list of ruby books is on github? It essentially organized the books in terms of difficulty and gave a description of each. I'm having a bit of trouble finding it, but I think it is fairly well known?

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15:13 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> im new to ruby, is using method_missing here bad practice or is it clever? https://github.com/nolim1t/btcmarkets-gem/blob/master/lib/nl-btcmarkets.rb

15:14 <havenwood> impermanence: do you mean the link in the topic? https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ

15:14 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> then you can call API requests as such puts b.get_market_BTC_AUD_tick or puts b.get_market_BTC_AUD_orderbook etc

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15:16 <havenwood> you could skip the if statement and just: @apikey = ENV['btcm_access_key'] || ''

15:16 <havenwood> or: @apikey = ENV['btcm_access_key'].to_s

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15:17 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> What if btcm_access_key doesn't exist though?

15:17 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> I'm more just asking if him using method_missing here is a smart move or idiotic?

15:17 <impermanence> havenwood: heh, yeah that's it. I just finished a lengthy crash course in the very basics of the syntax. So now I know that I know enough Ruby to suck at it. I'm look to "go round two" but I want to do it at a fast pace so I'm probably going to stay away from textbooks or anything super complicated. Any recs?

15:17 <havenwood> >> nil.to_s

15:17 <ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => "" (https://eval.in/825846)

15:17 <havenwood> >> nil || ''

15:17 <ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => "" (https://eval.in/825847)

15:17 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: what is it doing there?

15:18 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> def method_missing on line 24

15:18 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: what does the method_missing handle?

15:18 <havenwood> ?tabs

15:18 <ruby[bot]> Ruby community standards recommend using 2 spaces as indentation (see https://github.com/bbatsov/ruby-style-guide#spaces-indentation and https://ukupat.github.io/tabs-or-spaces/).

15:18 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> he used method_missing to define API calls

15:18 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: you can `arguments.one?` as a nice optimization of `arguments.length == 1`

15:18 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> Instead of having a function for each type of API call you make them by saying:

15:19 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> b = BTCMarkets.new

15:19 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> then you can call API requests as such puts b.get_market_BTC_AUD_tick or puts b.get_market_BTC_AUD_orderbook etc

15:19 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> b.get_market_BTC_AUD_tick becomes get/market/btc/aud/tick

15:19 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: that method seems overly complex, but it's also a bit hard to read with the combo of spaces and tabs

15:19 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> Is using method_missing in this way stupid or clever?

15:19 <havenwood> link with 2-spaces: https://github.com/nolim1t/btcmarkets-gem/blob/master/lib/nl-btcmarkets.rb?ts=2

15:20 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> havenwood: how are API gems usually written then? One function def for each API call?

15:20 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> (this is not my gem fyi)

15:20 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: i'd say explicit methods per verb would be simpler and cleaner, that's my hunch

15:20 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: yes, you usually see a method per verb then some private implementation detail methods for the guts

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15:21 <fdsbghdfsgfghsd> havenwood: so something like get_btc_price("aud") would be better then? As in get the BTC price in AUD

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15:25 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: that seems to be a higher level abstraction, but i'm not familiar with the domain

15:26 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: instead of #method missing, just something simple like: def request(verb, url, opts = nil)

15:27 <havenwood> fdsbghdfsgfghsd: along with the verbs defined: def get(url, params: {}, ...)

15:29 <havenwood> The method_missing approach here looks overly clever/convoluted to me. I think more explicit is a good idea. There are only so many verbs. You can only implement those you use or have a fallback for unknown.

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15:30 <havenwood> impermanence: The Well-Grounded Rubyist, 2nd Edition covers modern Ruby and gives a good grounding.

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15:31 <havenwood> impermanence: Ruby Under a Microscope goes into interesting details.

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15:32 <impermanence> havenwood: I'm thinking about going with Wicked Cool Ruby Scripts because right now I'm a sysad and it looks like it covers some subtle approaches to scripting. Plus I need to be doing exercises. And I figure I'll just go through the dude's ideas and make my own scripts...thoughts?

15:32 <havenwood> impermanence: The Ruby Programming Language (with Sparrows on the cover) covers similar ground to Well-Grounded Rubyist.

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15:32 <havenwood> impermanence: Excercism has some good excercises and feedback.

15:33 <havenwood> Feel free to ask for code review here!

15:33 <impermanence> havenwood: yes, I have completed Hellow World and am in the middle of doing hamming rn.

15:33 <havenwood> nice

15:33 <impermanence> ah sweet!

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15:34 <havenwood> exercism* (can't ever spell it right)

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15:46 <impermanence> havenwood: I guess what I need is a book with exercises that will help me take my syntax game to the next level. A difficult book is probably fine. Does that exist?

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16:06 <havenwood> impermanence: I don't recall which all books have exercises but some do.

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16:08 <havenwood> Practical Object-Oriented Design in Ruby (POODR) is often recommended. No exercises but it wouldn't be hard to do come up with your own from the examples.

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16:10 <impermanence> havenwood: I just ordered Well Grounded 2ed AND the Wicked Cool book. Somebody online wrote a scathing review of the second lol because he felt it was dird at windows admins so I bought two books. Thanks again, man! You're always a help.

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16:13 <impermanence> havenwood: btw, been using pry now for a month and really liking it!

16:13 <havenwood> nice

16:13 <havenwood> impermanence: you're welcome!

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20:53 <zenspider> man... been rather dead of late

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21:51 <ivanskie> yep

21:51 <ivanskie> noticed that too

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