<apeiros>
depends a lot on your use case. I think in most cases nothing is wrong to keep your connection open as long as your client lives.
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<mikhael_k33hl>
apeiros: Yeah, it'll be running as a daemon hehe
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<mikhael_k33hl>
If I have a loop then I want to break from it when a condition is met and return a value how do I do that?
<Exagone313>
Hi, is there a (shell) command to return the current "directory" version it will use for installing gems, e.g. "2.4.0" or "2.5.0"?
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<apeiros>
Exagone313: gem env
<Exagone313>
nothing more scriptable?
<apeiros>
mikhael_k33hl: depending on your situation, there might be a method which does what you want. else you can always assign the value to a variable.
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<apeiros>
Exagone313: gem env is yaml, so relatively easy to process
<apeiros>
Exagone313: of course you can always look at the code it uses to generate its output
<Exagone313>
gem env gemdir or gem env gempath are easier
<Exagone313>
not sure about across systems, but for my case I don't need to care
<apeiros>
…or check the commands help to find those, I guess :D
<Exagone313>
thanks
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<Exagone313>
and in fact it was some kind of XY question, because I just need the result of gem env gempath
<Exagone313>
just have to append /bin
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<Exagone313>
(for each path)
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<desperek>
dear rubyist, how do i iterate one thing over and over again till the end?
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<wnd>
desperek, do you mean something like Enumerable#cycle?
<desperek>
wnd, i think not really. let me explain what i am trying to do (this is related to rails <-> ActiveRecord), so i have a of X, and a has many of Xs - b,c,d. Each of them has their Xs and on and on...
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<desperek>
let me draw it, also, i have an idea on how do i do it, but the problem is implementation
<canton7>
and you want to walk that tree, in some order?
<desperek>
canton7, yes, from top to the bottom (and note/make array or hash structure to tell which level is it)
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<desperek>
canton7, i had an idea of creating a hash where key is upper and value is hash of lower Xs
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<canton7>
so you've already got the structure of the tree, and you want to walk it in a breadth-first way?
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<desperek>
canton7, yes (but it's based off rails relations, so i have no variable that contains all), whatever the breadth-first means.
<canton7>
create a queue. Enqueue on the root of the tree. Then in a loop dequeue an element, process it, and enqueue its children
<desperek>
canton7, is my hash thing idea of storing it a good idea?
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<canton7>
I'm not sure what you were trying to describe - I don't know what 'key' is
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<desperek>
canton7, well, if you have hash, then it'd be {parent => {child => {children => ... }}}
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<apeiros>
desperek: you can either programmatically walk the tree (proc which is called recursively), or you can use one of the ways devised to represent trees in databases
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<canton7>
hmm? surely it would be {parent => {left => ... right => ...}} ? since each item has two children
<apeiros>
working in all relational databases e.g. would nested sets
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<desperek>
canton7, well, then yes
<desperek>
apeiros, what do you mean actually?
<apeiros>
databases like oracle support recursive structures via a parent id, using the "connect by prior" statement
<canton7>
and yeah, I'm not clear on how ActiveRecord ties into this - are you trying to represent the tree in a database?
<canton7>
or in memory?
<apeiros>
desperek: I actually mean what I said ;-) which part do you have difficulties with?
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<desperek>
with english
<apeiros>
that's not really narrowing it down
<desperek>
i know :c
<desperek>
canton7, well, what i drew is some sort of mine database relations and records
<canton7>
can you ask your original question again, with about 4x as many words?
<canton7>
what problem are you actually trying to solve, exactly?
<desperek>
canton7, I have a database and record in it, right?
<apeiros>
note: untested, but should give you the idea
<desperek>
This is a single table, and records are reffering eachother in on table
<apeiros>
re nested set: nested sets are well documented on wikipedia. I'd just repeat the article, so I suggest you read up on it yourself.
<apeiros>
re connect by prior: since that depends on your db, there's no point in discussing it before you revealed what db you use
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<canton7>
(I had a lot of fun with a closure table once - that worked surprisingly well)
<apeiros>
nested sets are *tons* faster than doing the recursive variant, since it will be a single query
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<desperek>
apeiros, i use mysql (isnt it maintained by oracle?)
<apeiros>
yes, mysql is owned by oracle now and IMO that means you should switch to maria ;-p
<apeiros>
ok, I don't think mysql has an equivalent. I may be mistaken, though. I haven't used mysql in a decade.
<canton7>
I don't think mysql supports recursive structures natively, no
<apeiros>
but nested sets will work fine in mysql
<desperek>
but refering to wikipedia, nested set is finite
<apeiros>
canton7: it might via recursive CTE
<desperek>
my set is finite but is limited to infinite
<desperek>
sooo
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<apeiros>
desperek: oh, you've got cycles in your graph?
<canton7>
if so, that wasn't in your drawing :P
<apeiros>
so not truly a tree?
<desperek>
apeiros, it is a tree, but it's infinite tree that's not predictable at all
<desperek>
canton7, well, yes maybe, trying to represent infinite on drawing would be hard imo
<apeiros>
a tree, stored in a database, necessarily is finite
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<canton7>
desperek, it can't actually have an infinite number of elements -- there's only so much storage in the world
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<desperek>
canton7, i was speaking theoretically
<desperek>
let me tell you what i am really trying to do
<canton7>
and as long as you have less than a trillion or so elements, nested set is going to be fine as a data structure...
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<desperek>
So I have posts, and these posts can have replies, or be replies, I want to get all replies for the post canton7 apeiros
<apeiros>
yes, that's not infinite.
<apeiros>
arbitrarily large
<apeiros>
but not infinite
<desperek>
okay okay
<apeiros>
and yes, nested set is fine for this
<canton7>
closure table or nested set are both fine
<apeiros>
especially since the structure of the tree will change much less often than it is read
* apeiros
needs to read up on closure table
<apeiros>
wp article good?
<canton7>
it looks a bit ugly to start, but it's got some really nice properties. Not having to modify the whole thing when you insert being one of them
<canton7>
no idea what a good article is I'm afraid - I used them years ago
<desperek>
now how do i implement it...
<desperek>
and to be fair, i only thought of iterating it
<apeiros>
looks like having a join table for the descendants?
<canton7>
to be honest, there's probably a plugin to handle hierarchical data using nested set or closure table
<canton7>
it's hardly an uncommon issue
<apeiros>
desperek: there exist pre-done gems for nested set. probably same for closure table.
<desperek>
which to use?
<apeiros>
I've used awesome_nested_set in the past
<apeiros>
but ask over in #rubyonrails for suggestions
<canton7>
apeiros, yeah, there's a huge join table which has individual entries for a parent to each of its children, and a parent to each of its grandchildren, et
<apeiros>
canton7: ok. not that ugly IMO
<canton7>
well, there's an awful lot of entries in the join table
<canton7>
but you can do a lot of operations quite easily using it
<desperek>
ewh too hard ;-;
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<canton7>
what's too hard?
<apeiros>
damn, almost said something which would have forced me to ban myself :o)
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<canton7>
haha
<desperek>
canton7, trying to understand what are you trying to say actually, let me iterate over it :D
<canton7>
ignore the discussion between me and apeiros
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<desperek>
canton7, can i have model as a hash key?
<canton7>
probably?
<desperek>
no way
<desperek>
that thing is too hard for me
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<radialneon>
Greetings. I'm a Debian 9 user and I have installed Ruby 2.5.0 with RVM (Debian ships with 2.3.3 and with ruby-build and rbenv I could only upgrade up to 2.4.0).
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<radialneon>
Ruby 2.5.0 was compiled from source by the RVM because there were no available binaries for the distro.
<radialneon>
Upon issuing a gem install command (with super-user), it fails to locate the 2.5.0 ruby-dev header files.
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<radialneon>
I think the `gem` command is searching in the directory that should contain them if I had installed it with APT, but since I did with RVM, it fails because of that.
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<radialneon>
My email: daniel_nora@hotmail.com / Twitter: @iamdanielnora
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<apeiros>
radialneon: rvm is usually a user-install
<apeiros>
so no super-user needed. or did you explicitly install it for root?
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<ule>
Hey guys.. if you want to wire someone, which github profile would you appreatiate more? One with tons of simple examples on a good amount of languages, doesn't matter if it has relevant repositories or not, OR would you prefer to see someone having lets say 5 really good repositories (well documented, written etc)
<ule>
My point is.. 100 repositories full of bullshit, or just 5 really good repositories?
<TheMoonMaster>
ule: 5 good repos, and contributing back bugfixes on other repos
<TheMoonMaster>
well documented issues on other repos are also a plus if I see them
<dyyylan>
are you hiring someone for their ability to learn multiple things, or someone to write something large and specific
<dyyylan>
im not sure github is the best example of someone's work either unless you're hiring someone for OSS
<ule>
dyyylan: Some companies don't care about language, as long as the person shows they are able to learn new things and handle well new demands on the company
<dyyylan>
rhetorical question :)
<ule>
I've been seeing companies being more agnostics againts language recenyly
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<ule>
TheMoonMaster: I see
<TheMoonMaster>
It's almost a given that someone can jump between most languages if they're competent in at least 1 or 2 others
<ule>
TheMoonMaster: that make sense
<ule>
TheMoonMaster: I just wiped out all my repos. Made all private and now I'm gonna start selecting better what I should share publicly
<TheMoonMaster>
good employers often ask for a code sample in addition to scouring your gh
<ule>
I had a bunch of trash from assembly to high level frameworks..but I was felling kind of bad recently because of the quality of the code there.. had some trash from 5 years old by the time I didn't know anything
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<TheMoonMaster>
I have some awful code from many years ago on there
<ule>
TheMoonMaster: indeed
<TheMoonMaster>
it's bad, but newer repos show how far I've come so I don't mind
<ule>
TheMoonMaster: thats a good point as well
<ule>
so as long as you have recent code with a good quality
<TheMoonMaster>
yep
<ule>
I still don't know.. for example.. I had some "hello world" style of code I did using Scala maybe 3 years ago
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<TheMoonMaster>
yeah, I don't have anything like that up on GH
<ule>
it is just crap, so If I get a chance to work for a company that has their stack based on Scala, and they see my github
<ule>
I'm screwed
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<ule>
Even that now I would be able to write a much better code
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<ule>
so, I'm trying to avoid chances to lose an opportunity by killing all crappy code and sharing only relevant content
<dyyylan>
if you have scala code on there you might want to make sure your profile picture is up to date with your beard shaved off and a t-shirt with no stains on it
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<ule>
lol
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<ule>
dyyylan: out of curiosity, whats your view about ruby devs nowadays?
<ule>
hipsters?
<TheMoonMaster>
they're people who code
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<dyyylan>
i dunno, i like ruby but it it seems like im the only one :(
<ule>
:P
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<dyyylan>
everyone in my circle seems to look at it like they looked at php a couple years ago
<ule>
Agree, I came from PHP to Ruby, and now I really like ruby
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<ule>
I just don't understand all these trending love for Python and Javascript
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<ule>
I don't know what's gonna happen in the future.
<dyyylan>
i am primarily a (frontend) js dev and i agree with you. i've been working on a side project in node and good lord is it immature
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<TheMoonMaster>
the "ruby and rails are dead" thing is way overhyped
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<TheMoonMaster>
tons of new projects are still using rails and tons of projects are still using rails
<dyyylan>
wait it isn't dead? i thought everyone moved on to elixir/phoenix already
<ule>
node is a joke, you install one lib and get 5GB of trash in your computer
<ule>
:D
<TheMoonMaster>
elixir/phoenix has its own problems
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<TheMoonMaster>
like the joke that "contexts" are
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<dyyylan>
personally i moved back to php for all my own projects because of how amazing laravel is
<ule>
I just watched a youtube video saying the top programming languages from Github(2017)
<ule>
Surpriselly, we have JS, Python, Java, Ruby, PHP
<ule>
but JS is like.. double the side of python
<TheMoonMaster>
you couldn't pay me enough to go back to PHP
<ule>
lol
<TheMoonMaster>
just not my jam
<dyyylan>
it is quite nice now tbh
<ule>
I tried Django some days ago.. and guys.. that crappy thing makes me love Rails even more
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<TheMoonMaster>
dyyylan: I don't think so
<ule>
I still think Symfony kick Rails ass in some aspects by far
<dyyylan>
the problem if you're looking for php jobs is that you will never work with modern php, you'll be fixing some ancient horribly coded mess, or writing wordpress extensions
<dyyylan>
the whole reason i started learning rails was because i had to look for a new job and the php searches were scaring me :D
<ule>
Im at the point where I stilll don't know if I should invest more in Ruby/Raiils or move to something else
<ule>
I mean.. Nowadays, at least here where I live, there are few positions at PHP and Ruby. Probably the same amount of job opportunities
<dyyylan>
what do you see the most of?
<ule>
Sallary is becoming really well, because at least here, not everybody knows Ruby/Rails so sallary is really high
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<ule>
so.. its nice to get a decent sasllary, but at the same point I don't want to be without job, going to a search and see only a few opportunities, which is kind of scary
<ule>
in other side, there are tons of Java jobs, but again, most of them to deal with legacy code
<ule>
so it's the question that I will only gonna be able to get an answer after some years/time of experience
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<obr7_>
Nevermind, just remove the plugin as usual. In my case, the new plugin had created similarly sounding permissions that I thought at first belonged to the old plugin.