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<dorian> question: is there a way to tell yard to link to something in a different gem?
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<dorian> like if i want to @see Superclass#method where Superclass is in some other gem
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<itarato> Hi! I have a pretty made up use case - but the techique behind is just way over my head to understand. I saw this in a gem:
<itarato> `(Promise.new { 1 }).class === Integer`
<itarato> This `new` returns 1 from the block. First - how can something change the return of new and how can a different something be that class (Int instead of Promise)?
<itarato> Without overriding `new` or returning anything from `initialize`.
<itarato> This is from this code: https://github.com/bhuga/promising-future/blob/master/lib/promise.rb the debugger fails to break at lines that would help explaining it and it's not trivial to crack.
<itarato> In my example I used `class` on purpose so it's not a `to_s` or `to_ary`.
<mozzarella> itarato: BasicObject doesn't have a class method, so the method_missing delegates it to the "result" object
<itarato> Oh I see. So my question is how is that called on the integer instead of the `Promise` instance?
<itarato> Since the code instantiates a promise and all of those methods are defined on promise.
<mozzarella> do you know about method_missing? it's a special method that's called when there's no method found with the specified name
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<itarato> Yes, if you call an unknown method on an instance.
<itarato> And after `respond_to?` said true.
<itarato> The debugger only able to stop in `method_missing` - and at that point the instance is already replaced to the integer - so I cannot confirm at what point the swap happened.
<itarato> Or if it's a swap or not.
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<mozzarella> not sure I'm understanding you
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<itarato> It starts with a `Promise.new` call where we pass a block that returns an Int. This, as far as I know should return an instance for Promise. However inside the Promise class `self.class` says Integer.
<itarato> Even `self.class.ancestors` does not have Promise inside Promise.
<mozzarella> because Promise doesn't have a class method
<mozzarella> you only get a class method if you inherit from Object, whereas BasicObject has the strict minimum only
<itarato> Hmmmm
<mozzarella> the .class you're getting is from the "result" that's contained inside the promise
<mozzarella> >> BasicObject.new.class
<ruby[bot]> mozzarella: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<itarato> So techically the class is still Promise but calling `class` is in disguise?
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<itarato> Or lets say delegated?
<mozzarella> it's being delegated to the result object, from the method_missing method
<itarato> Right. That might be. Thanks so much for the pointers! Super helpful!!
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<cxl> Hi, what's the most idiomatic way to `File.delete file` and not raise if `file` doesn't exist? Is `FileUtils.rm file, force: true` the way to go?
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<havenwood> cxl: Yes, or the alias: FileUtils.remove file, force: true
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<havenwood> cxl: Or: File.delete file if File.exist? file
<havenwood> cxl: Short answer, "yes."
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<xpitr> or FileUtils.rm_f for short
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<havenwood> or its alias: FileUtils.safe_unlink file
<havenwood> xpitr: Good point, nicer to not have a keyword argument.
<havenwood> cxl: ^
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<xpitr> hm so i have some class, that has something like attr_accessor :foo, :bar; @foo = Foo.new(self); @bar = Bar.new(self) . is there clean way to have both Foo and Bar have access to each other through that?
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<xpitr> with this example^ Bar will have access to Foo but not other way around. the workaround is kinda ugly
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<havenwood> xpitr: Show the code?
<havenwood> xpitr: I don't quite follow from what you've written.
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<havenwood> xpitr: Why does Foo not have access to Bar?
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<xpitr> with Foo.new(self) the "self" does not contain Foo nor Bar so it is not accessible
<xpitr> in Bar, then Foo is already created so only it is accessible
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<xpitr> i know how to work around it but its ugly
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<leftylink> well, it is indeed not easy to make two things mutually referential.
<havenwood> xpitr: Why is your program relying o compile time ordering? How does this break anything?
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<xpitr> perhaps i need to restructure this program a little because this seems wrong :p
<xpitr> there were two classes that i wanted to be able to call each other
<xpitr> as well as access "self" that has things like config
<xpitr> oh god no :D
<xpitr> but interesting that this is merely a timing issue?
<havenwood> xpitr: I'm pointing out, you're architecting a thing where compile time matters. That's not the way to go.
<havenwood> xpitr: Yes, this works as you'd like it to, but the instantiation of Hello has to finish before the values are as you'd. like.
<havenwood> xpitr: I could write it another way showing with a mutex, sec.
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<leftylink> o
<leftylink> oops
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<leftylink> basically, you will find that this is difficult. you might think that something like this would work
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<leftylink> &>> a = {b: b = {a: a}}; [a, b] # however, b[:a] will be nil.
<rubydoc> # => [{:b=>{:a=>nil}}, {:a=>nil}] (https://carc.in/#/r/841n)
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<leftylink> you might equally think something like this would work
<leftylink> &>> a, b = {b: a}, {a: b}; [a, b] # it also won't work, both will be nil
<rubydoc> # => [{:b=>nil}, {:a=>nil}] (https://carc.in/#/r/841p)
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<leftylink> so you might think thatthe best you can do is one of the two
<leftylink> &>> a = {b: b = {}}; b[:a] = a; [a, b]
<rubydoc> # => [{:b=>{:a=>{...}}}, {:a=>{:b=>{...}}}] (https://carc.in/#/r/841q)
<leftylink> &>> a = {}; b = {}; a[:b], b[:a]= b, a; [a, b]
<rubydoc> # => [{:b=>{:a=>{...}}}, {:a=>{:b=>{...}}}] (https://carc.in/#/r/841r)
<xpitr> yeah something like this is workaround i mentioned. create both instances first, then manually assign self to both
<leftylink> to do it in one expression requires that the variable be bound before its value is even known, I would be surprised if it were possible
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<leftylink> if it suits your purposes, it may be possible to make at least one of the two lazily computed, but the only real purpose of this would be to create the two in one expression; I don't really see any additional advantages of it
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<leftylink> so that would look something like
<leftylink> &>> A = Struct.new(:b); B = Struct.new(:af) { def a; @a ||= af[] end }; a = A.new(b = B.new(->{a})); [a.b == b, b.a == a]
<rubydoc> # => [true, true] (https://carc.in/#/r/841u)
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<xpitr> thanks for the effort but this is literally satan ;)
<xpitr> interesting how this all works tho
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<havenwood> xpitr: Avoid packing things that shouldn't happen initially into initialization.
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<xpitr> oh this is clean, nice
<xpitr> basically my problem was testing stuff inside initialize lol
<havenwood> xpitr: yup!
<havenwood> xpitr: once they're both initialized, all should be as you expect.
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<xpitr> of course now i can do p s.parser.bot.socket.bot.socket.bot.parser.bot.socket.bot.parser ... hehe.
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<cxl> thanks havenwood, xpitr
<cxl> I have another question: I'd like to create a rake task to scaffold new modules. What is a good way/gem to do that easily?
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