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<Helenah>
Hi hi!
<Helenah>
From learning Python to learning Ruby! :)
<Helenah>
I'm actually learning the fundamentals of Ruby so I can better learn Ruby on Rails.
<prp-e>
Helenah, for learning RoR, I suggest learning about fundamentals of Software Engineering as well.
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<mistergibson[m]>
<Helenah "Hi hi!"> You might also want to check out Sinatra, Sequel, and Padrino --> a lightweight approach that is easier to learn than the full RoR stack.
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<uplime>
sinatra is great
<uplime>
what does padrino do?
<mistergibson[m]>
it is a competitor to Rails. Both are MVC-oriented in architecture. Padrino is built upon Sinatra. It lets you 'mount' apps at different http routes
<uplime>
ah
<mistergibson[m]>
it is super light weight
<mistergibson[m]>
Rails is huge by comparison
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<mistergibson[m]>
So, if you want to prototype, or even build your own web framework Sinatra is the place to start - and Padrino is a great way to get APIs built --> dead easy in Padrino.
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<instigator>
Hello. Is it possible to pass values using flags with optparse? The tutorials I have come across only show how to use a flag with a boolean value and not a string value.
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<instigator>
_phaul: thanks
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<extrowerk>
Hi guys
<extrowerk>
I am with the HaikuPorts team here, have some questions about the --user-install thing.
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<extrowerk>
On haike the system folder managed by the package-manager (called package_daemon). The system folder thus immutable, eg. read-only, even with sudo.
<extrowerk>
So every user have to pass --user-install at installing gems. This is not optimal. It would be better to handle it once for all, so i want to patch our ruby port, so it always uses --user-install.
<extrowerk>
Question is: what would be the best way to accomplish this?
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<jhass>
extrowerk: you can ship a global gemrc (below SYSTEM CONFIGURATION DIRECTORY, see gem env) and have it say install: --user-install
<jhass>
or generically command: default arguments
<jhass>
so you may also want to include update and uninstall, possibly others, not sure
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<jhass>
another option is to set GEM_HOME and GEM_PATH environment variables such that the home points to something in the users home directory but system wide installed gems still appear in GEM_PATH
<extrowerk>
jhass: the second idea is not vialible, nobody want to mess with the envvars.
<extrowerk>
global gemrc could be possible, but i need to test it
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<extrowerk>
jhass:i already use plenty ENV vars to not let ruby/gem to create dotfolders in $HOME. It is not welcomed on Haiku. Question is: can i override everything with gemrc to achaive this?
<extrowerk>
no program should store their stuff directly in home at all. we patch all programs to use the correct place for it, and having a dot in the folder nae is also not allowed.
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<jhass>
well see above, you can define the lookup path and I guess with -i also the install directory arbitrarily
<jhass>
that is you can pass any commandline argument
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<Helenah>
I like Haiku
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<Helenah>
mistergibson[m]: I wanted to learn RoR because a freelancer said it is another thing becoming popular in the industry.
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<gitter1234>
Helenah: hey you're that chick from #music right?
<gitter1234>
didn't know you were into ruby as well
<gitter1234>
looking forward to your next soundcloud release!
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<havenwood>
gitter1234: lots of folk have the same name.
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<havenwood>
gitter1234: i think "that chick" is a bit overly informal.
<havenwood>
gitter1234: doing any Ruby today?
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<havenwood>
i'm trying to decide what project to do today...
<Helenah>
gitter1234: Yes, I am. :)
<Helenah>
havenwood: It was overly informal, however I didn't mind. Also gitter1234 got the right Helena.
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<havenwood>
Helenah: Hah, I didn't guess gitter1234 was right.
<havenwood>
gitter1234: Never mind about lots of folk with a name!
<havenwood>
Helenah: I'd say Rails is already pretty mainstream. On the West Coast of the US, I see a ton of Rails work.
<Helenah>
gitter1234: I come from Python and still use it.
<Helenah>
havenwood: Based on what I've seen of Rails so far, it looks like a really nice web framework.
<gitter1234>
havenwood: its all good :)
<gitter1234>
Helenah: awesome, well like i said in #music, welcome to the fam!
<Helenah>
gitter1234: I enjoy being a member of the family. Thank you. :)
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<Helenah>
gitter1234: Interested in anything else? 3D Printing? Home Automation? Greenhouse Computers?
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<Helenah>
gitter1234, havenwood, I didn't realise I disconnected, did I miss anything?
<Helenah>
I got a flakey 3G/GSM gateway which I set up.
<havenwood>
Helenah: A fair number of folk here use ZNC as a bouncer. It's a bit of a pain to setup, but it'll replay chat history. It's nice if you IRC a lot, but logs work too.
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<adam12>
havenwood: It actually has a nice web frontend too. GlowingBear or something?
<adam12>
havenwood: I switched to it from irssi (and if you can think far enough back, bitchx). Weechat seems to have nicer key bindings and easier configuration options. Seeing all settings in a list is very nice!
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