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<Ediz> Hello everyone
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<Ediz> I'm using sinatra to set up an api, I've just set up a simple post route and trying it with a http client, it works, but I get this error output from rack: https://dpaste.org/6t46#L any ideas why this might occur?
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<jhass> sounds like your http client is misbehaving
<Ediz> hehe in what way, I'm just using RubyMines http client
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<jhass> nothing too terrible, just closing the connection while the server doesn't expect it
<jhass> probably something a reverse proxy will hide from your appserver
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<neozor> Is Sinatra a good tool for API only services?
<Ediz> I'd say so, but I'm new so take it with a pinch of salt
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<jhass> I never quite figured what makes a webserver framework a good or a bad tool for that usecase. Route some requests in, render some json out, they all can do that, it's very basic
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<neozor> You are right, i have to narrow down the case studio to really ponder the value of a specific tool
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<burgestrand> neozor anecdotally software tends to become more complex over time, and more often than not I tend to end up being grateful for picking something heavier (e.g. rails)
<burgestrand> e.g. sinatra apps tend to grow towards being poor subset of rails more than rails apps growing towards being a poor superset of sinatra
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<leitz> neozor, if you think you need a full webserver, look at Roda. Otherwise, if you have something simple, look at WEBrick. WEBrick is also a part of the Ruby Standard Library, https://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.7.1/libdoc/webrick/rdoc/WEBrick.html
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havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: https://ruby-community.com | Ruby 2.7.2, 2.6.6, 3.0.0-preview1: https://www.ruby-lang.org | Paste 4+ lines of text to https://dpaste.de/ and select Ruby as the language | Rails questions? Ask in #RubyOnRails | Books: https://goo.gl/wpGhoQ | Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby | Can't talk? Register/identify with Nickserv first!
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<adam12> Bah
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<havenwood> hah
<adam12> And I op'd myself and everything.
<adam12> ;)
<havenwood> Down to the wire. Didn't see your hat. :P
<adam12> I had to copy/pasta the topic into an editor to change it. Slowed me down.
<apotheon> duelling topic changers
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<adam12> I was hoping 2.7.2 was going to drop soonish.
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<adam12> Warnings off by default might make the switch a bit easier. At least to push warnings to CI.
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<Rubzz> I'd like to avoid eval.
<adam12> Rubzz: sorry brb.
<Rubzz> Hello, Is it possible to dynamically create methods on an instance i.e. def self.<some_var> ....
<adam12> Rubzz: Sure.
<adam12> Rubzz: Naturally, `self` is contextual on where it's called. What have you tried so far? Can you share some code?
<Rubzz> adam12^
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<Rubzz> adam12 there's a lot of extraneous code there. But the aim is to define a method with a dynamic name on a on the instance from which the method was invoked. No problem
<Rubzz> I have defined the methods on the class but I want them to be specific to an instance not to the class
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<adam12> Rubzz: how about define_singleton_method(method_name, scopy)
<adam12> Rubzz: Don't discount `eval`. Because it doesnt' create a closure, it can be more performant. I believe Jeremy Evans talk covers this. Let me find a link if you're curious.
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<Rubzz> brb
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<neozor> leitz: Thanks for the tip! i do not need anything for now, it was more like a general comment. At work we use Puma
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<havenwood> neozor: Yes, Sinatra is a good tool for APIs. I've moved from Sinatra to Roda though for APIs. +1 Roda.
<havenwood> neozor: Roda is fantastic.
<havenwood> neozor: I'd suggest going through each and every plugin to assess what you need.
<apotheon> How many plugins are there?
<havenwood> apotheon: A fair number: https://roda.jeremyevans.net/documentation.html#plugins
<apotheon> seems like a lot to go through
<havenwood> apotheon: By cherry picking the ones you need you compose a framework.
<havenwood> apotheon: It's worth it. :)
<apotheon> righto
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<leitz> I'm still hopeful for WEBrick. :)
<havenwood> leitz: Hope for WEBrick is misplaced. :P
<leitz> havenwood, well, we are doing Ruby... :(
<leitz> havenwood, I just prefer simpler solutions.
<leitz> havenwood, with the understanding that things like Roda and Rails solve problems a simpler solution might not.
<adam12> Plain Rack can get you fairly far too.
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<leitz> adam12, I don't think Rack is in the standard library, is it?
<adam12> leitz: Nope.
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<tweaks> havenwood: do you ever use rails for APIs?
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<havenwood> tweaks: For just an API without a webapp? I personally don't, no.
<havenwood> leitz: Roda and Rails are both Rack apps. Most web in Ruby is Rack.
<havenwood> leitz: Roda is an intentionally minimalist addition on top or Rack.
<havenwood> leitz: Rails is a Rack adapter too, but intentionally monolithic based on conventions.
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<havenwood> leitz: Rack is a good think to grok.
<havenwood> leitz: Then Roda and middleware will make sense.
<havenwood> leitz: I'd advise making a Rack app with multiple routes and a bit of error handling. Then you'll see how that's a bit awkward. Roda takes it just a step further with a small addition of code and plugins to make it elegant to create apps with routes.
<havenwood> Rails goes further yet and gives a whole app scaffold, but that often includes things you don't need—hence new flags to start more minimalist.
<havenwood> leitz: That's the spec, which is just as complicated as needed, however pesky, to be a spec for a webserver-gateway interface.
<havenwood> Here're examples of "Hello, World" apps in different Rack frameworks: https://github.com/luislavena/bench-micro/tree/master/apps
<havenwood> leitz: WEBrick is one of the less evolved Rack web servers that you can plug in to Rack frameworks like Rails, Roda, Sinatra, and so on.
<havenwood> Or you can use it with a pure Rack app.
<havenwood> Rails, Roda, Sinatra, all have a config.ru (rackup) file and just conform to the Rack spec for the status, headers, and body.
<havenwood> leitz: Using the Rack interface doesn't take any extra mental overhead for me compared to using CGI.
<havenwood> Deploying it is a tad more complicated.
<havenwood> leitz: Admittedly, Rack webservers can be used without Rack or a framework. Nice example here: https://medium.com/@lfv89/rackless-ruby-servers-why-not-a9f8430067dd
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<havenwood> But... Rack is the standard for Ruby and Roda is quite nice for a minimalist interface.
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<havenwood> Roda + Falcon FTW.
<havenwood> Gah, I just got scared by a Ractor walking past my window. 🦖
<havenwood> Schneeems, in defense of WEBrick—for a counterpoint: https://schneems.com/2017/08/01/is-webrick-webscale/
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<pciuch9> who using mrubyc ? it working?
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