<leitz>
Can we remove the "BLM <heart>" from the topic, please?
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<jhass>
no.
<leitz>
jhass, why not?
<dionysus69>
why would you want to remove that?
<leitz>
dionysus69, if you google "why blm does not represent blacks" you'll find lots of reasons. We should value all lives.
<havenwood>
leitz: Smurfs? Andorian?
<apotheon>
I think the reason someone might want it removed from the topic is that it's a very politically charged, controversial topic addition for a programming language channel.
<jhass>
Please move this to #ruby-offtopic
<apotheon>
I'm not objecting -- just elucidating.
<havenwood>
Or #ruby-community.
<dionysus69>
from what I've heard blm doesn't imply not to value all lives, baseline is, blm as anything is open to interpretation, why would you want to interpret it as "only black lives matter"
<leitz>
jhass, apotheon's comment is correct. Support, or lack thereof, for BLM does not belong here.
<jhass>
I asked you to move this discussion to a better suited channel. Thanks.
<apotheon>
Is ##ruby-offtopic the official place to discuss meta-stuff?
<jhass>
yes
<jhass>
or #ruby-community as mentioned by havenwood
<apotheon>
leitz: I recommend addressing jhass there.
<havenwood>
Or #ruby-community if it's about this channel.
<apotheon>
oh
<apotheon>
then -community instead
<havenwood>
Either is fine.
<havenwood>
leitz: Happy to discuss at length in #ruby-community.
<apotheon>
It seems like -community is the better option if -community is more "about this channel".
<leitz>
jhass, I agree with you. BLM should be in #ruby-community or #ruby-offtopic. Keeping it in the topic is offtopic.
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<apotheon>
For the record, I'm undecided about Smurf lives. Azrael needs to eat.
<havenwood>
apotheon: That's the BLM tie to the racist.
<havenwood>
Oops, I'm sorry. I thought I was in #ruby-offtopic.
<havenwood>
!offtopic havenwood
<apotheon>
oops
<havenwood>
I swear, I keep making mistakes this week on talking in the wrong channel. :(
<apotheon>
I *might* read that later.
<havenwood>
apotheon: Save your time.
<jhass>
too many channels, quit some :P
<apotheon>
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<havenwood>
!kick havenwood "Too many channels"
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<apotheon>
zoiks
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<adam12>
Has anybody looked recently at any performance implications of obj.extend(Module)? It used to globally bust the method cache but I wonder how current my memory of it is.
<jhass>
well, even if it just busts the cache for the involved class hierarchies, chances are quite high it's still going to be bad for the performance for the involved part of the program when you do it past application boot time. I would still always look to other solutions personally
<adam12>
jhass: Yeah; I'm thinking of changing it, but was curious if I was misremembering.
<jhass>
I'm curious as well, update me in case you find an answer :)
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<banisterfiend>
hi
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<banisterfiend>
has anyone ever seen an error like: "NoMethodError: undefined method `set_params' for #<OpenSSL::SSL::SSLContext:0x007f2af8052ec0>"
<havenwood>
banisterfiend: hey!
<banisterfiend>
and no what the cause is? + how to fix it?
<jhass>
mmh, these sometimes happen to quite dynamically depend on the openssl version (opposed to ruby version)
<banisterfiend>
jhass yea it's a flapping spec :/
<banisterfiend>
an't really find much on it online