drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.11: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-11 CVE-2013-4363: http://bit.ly/CVE-2013-4363 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<drbrain> mpapis: I figured out the Fetching vs Using problem
<drbrain> does bundler automatically exclude itself from lock files?
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<drbrain> mpapis: I ran out of brain, but I'm close to making the Gemfile.lock output the same
<drbrain> maybe I can get it on the train home
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<kseifried> hey once code is uploaded to ruygems.org, like fubygemfoobar-1.0.1, it can be replaced with different code right, I don't have to increment the version #?
<seanlinsley> I'd certainly hope not :<
<kseifried> but is it possible?
<kseifried> I think it is correct?
<seanlinsley> I don't know
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<adam12> You can yank a version
<adam12> but you have to upload a new version #, afaik.
<kseifried> 100% certain? so basically specific gem versions are immutable? because it looks like you can at least update the docs
<seanlinsley> can you elaborate kseifried?
<kseifried> so I upload kurtseifried-0.0.1
<kseifried> can I reupload it, or yank and upload so I can modify it but keep the version #?
<seanlinsley> No, I meant about you being able to update the docs
<kseifried> ah misread something sorry, very tired today
<seanlinsley> If you could publish a release and then modify its contents after the fact, that would be a bad thing IMO
<bbrowning_away> kseifried: in the past at least, you've been able to open a ticket or whatnot with rubygems.org to have someone manually remove a version
<kseifried> yeah. that why I wanna confirm it can't be done
<bbrowning_away> and then publish that version again
<kseifried> anyways using the tools I get the error, can only yank, so good to confirm
<bbrowning_away> kseifried: so, if you can convince someone on the rubygems.org side to remove it for you, it can be done
<bbrowning_away> The only person I know that's done that did it at least 6 months or more ago, so things may differ now.
<kseifried> yeah just found the web page covering it
<seanlinsley> Can you link to that? I'm curious
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<kseifried> use yank to sort of remove it
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<kseifried> confirmed you can still install a yabnked gem-version =(
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<carols10cents> every time you yank a gem, a puppy dies
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<samkottler> carols10cents: +1
<samkottler> drbrain: just added hone to the gittip org
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<mpapis> drbrain, I just got an idea - extracting rvm wrappers to a gem, so when installing a gem an extra wrapper will be created preserving environment variables for use in cron and system locations .... long story short is it ok to create GEM_HOME/wrappers for that?
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<drbrain> mpapis: I see no problem with using GEM_HOME/wrappers
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<mpapis> gtreat, I should have something today, already have gem scaffold, basic code
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<drbrain> last night I almost got the Gemfile.lock that rubygems writes to be the same as the bundler output
<drbrain> once that's done the "Using" will show up correctly
<mpapis> oh that sounds good, so 2.2 will be quite complete ?\
<drbrain> I will still be branding it "experimental" due to compatibility concerns and expectation management, but yes
<drbrain> indirect: does bundler automatically include itself in a lock file?
<mpapis> I think bundler should not be added to Gemfile{,.lock}there was some discussion about it that gems should not depend on bundler
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