drbrain changed the topic of #rubygems to: RubyGems 2.1.11: http://bit.ly/rubygems-2-1-11 CVE-2013-4363: http://bit.ly/CVE-2013-4363 - Latest status: http://twitter.com/rubygems_status and http://status.rubygems.org
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<Perceptes> status site says it's good though
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<bobthecow> stairway denied for everyone or just me?
<ddd> someone else reported it about an hour ago
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<bobthecow> @rubygems on twitter and http://m.rubygems.org/ both seem to indicate that everything's been down for three hours, but http://status.rubygems.org and http://uptime.rubygems.org seem to think nothing is wrong.
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<sferik> qrush, evan: I'm getting a 500 error when a try pushing a gem to rubygems.org
<sferik> qrush, evan: I tried logging in to Airbrake to see what the exception was, but it seems like we're not using Airbrake/Hoptoad anymore
<sferik> qrush, evan: What's the best way for me to see what the exception is?
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<sferik> qrush, evan: wonder if it's related to: https://twitter.com/rubygems_status/status/410876211032645632
<Perceptes> bobthecow: hey, i was talking to you via twitter earlier :P
<Perceptes> (jimmycuadra)
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<sferik> bobthecow: do you know if evan is aware of the issue?
<bobthecow> nobody has gotten a response, as far as i know.
<Perceptes> sferik: no one on the rubygems team has acknowledged it afaik
<Perceptes> jinx
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<sferik> bobthecow: are you experiencing this same issue in the US?
<bobthecow> yep.
<bobthecow> looks like no gems have been pushed for about three hours.
<sferik> hmmm
<sferik> that's bad
<sferik> has anyone tweeted @evanphx or @qrush?
<Perceptes> I will right now
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<ddd> no nothing to either of them in about 4 hours
<Perceptes> I feel like some big companies who use ruby should sponsor rubygems, it's necessary for the whole language ecosystem and really needs 24/7 on call support
<Perceptes> it's not fair to evan, qrush, et al to support such a big thing as volunteers
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<Perceptes> it's kind of absurd when you think about it
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<Perceptes> looks like status.rubygems.org only checks if the various endpoints respond to pings
<Perceptes> hence them showing it as up
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<Perceptes> qrush probably won't see this until the morning, it's 2 AM east coast
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<bobthecow> woot! response on the twitters!
<evan> i'm around now.
<evan> are things fixed now?
<evan> or still issues?
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<Perceptes> gem push is still failing for me
<Perceptes> as of just now
<evan> super
<evan> what error?
<evan> are you getting?
<qrush> hello
<qrush> up for a diaper change and checked my tweets...
<evan> qrush: I got this
<evan> go back to diapering.
<evan> my kid is sound asleep.
<qrush> muchly appreciated
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<vertis> hey
<evan> vertis: did you just remove the only deploy dirs?
<qrush> my last computer explosion must have had the rubygems_status pw
<vertis> i just ran logrotate
<vertis> didn't remove deploy dirs
<evan> fucking logs
<vertis> but it's the huge deploys that are the problem
<vertis> and then redis keeps tipping it over into an alert
<vertis> but it still had 900mb free
<vertis> is there another problem?
<vertis> or just the data dog alert?
<vertis> which was hours ago
<evan> i'm bounching unicorn
<Perceptes> logrotate doesn't seem to have affected that
<evan> Perceptes: yep, got the error here.
<Perceptes> cool
<vertis> right
<vertis> well it's not related to the space problem
<Perceptes> ok
<evan> i do hate computers.
<evan> ARG
<vertis> :D
<qrush> i dont know the rubygems_status pw...can't reset it either. let's get that updated first :)
<vertis> unfortunately I have to run
<vertis> I have a dinner
<evan> fuck you redis
<qrush> it would be fun to get that wired up so we dont need to log into it. maybe we can use IFTTT
<evan> fuck you so hard.
<evan> 2013-12-12_06:55:09.47887 Redis::CommandError - OOM command not allowed when used memory > 'maxmemory'.:
<vertis> lol
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<Perceptes> redis is taking a beating this week
<vertis> I see you have this under control
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<qrush> thanks vertis.
<qrush> o/
<vertis> bye
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<evan> i'm running my redis prune script
<evan> to get the memory back down.
<qrush> alright my brain cant brain, need to go
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<evan> the issue should be fixed
<qrush> at least the box can fill up with logs and memory can oom and gems keep getting served
<qrush> thats pretty cool
<evan> prune is clearing space for new data
<evan> this was a redis OOM
<evan> the good kind
<evan> the one where you configure a good max memory value
<evan> and redis thusly doesn't tank the whole machine.
<evan> well, tomorrow i'll be writing a new stats backend for rubygems.org
<evan> :)
<qrush> sounds like a cereal. Redis OOM - don't WAIT for it!
<Perceptes> gem push works again
<Perceptes> thanks gents
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<Perceptes> on the topic, what service/software would you use to detect and alert on anomalies in business metrics, e.g. "there are usually X gem pushes per hour but there have been none for 3 hours"
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<qrush> woot, thanks evan. a quick writeup would be nice before rewriting stuff ;)
<evan> surely.
<qrush> Perceptes: we use nagios for this at 37. just a sql query would solve this
<qrush> some smarter alerts in datadog could do us over here
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<Perceptes> sure, if you want to set the thresholds you're looking for manually
<Perceptes> it'd be cool to have a system that analyzes historical data to determine what "anomalous" is though
<evan> I want to build something just like that
<evan> just in general
<Perceptes> sort of coincidentally that's what i've been researching for the past week at work
<Perceptes> sumologic seems to be the closest thing that currently exists
<qrush> alright, sleep. thanks again folks. o/
<Perceptes> thanks qrush, good night
<evan> nite bud
<evan> hope the kiddo sleeps well
<bobthecow> thanks all!
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<roidrage> hey guys
<dwradcliffe> roidrage: hi
<roidrage> we still see quite a few ssl connectivity issues. i keep wondering if those are rubygems.org or possibly s3?
<roidrage> last week we almost couldn't deploy to heroku because of ongoing ssl connectivity issues, and now we're still seeing the occasional build fail
<roidrage> anything we can do to help?
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<evan> wonderful
<evan> redis for some reason stopped saving itself to disk
<evan> rdb_changes_since_last_save:2701205095
<evan> rdb_bgsave_in_progress:0
<evan> rdb_last_save_time:1381825424
<evan> rdb_last_bgsave_status:ok
<evan> rdb_last_bgsave_time_sec:60
<evan> rdb_current_bgsave_time_sec:-1
<tmacedo> try issuing BGSAVE manually and see if it completes
<tmacedo> then do a config get save
<tmacedo> and check no one changed the settings in runtime ?
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<evan> i'm about to
<evan> bonus:
<evan> redis 127.0.0.1:6379> bgsave
<evan> (error) ERR
<tmacedo> uh ?
<tmacedo> fs permissions ?
<evan> mayb
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<evan> doesn't appear that way.
<tmacedo> :/
<tmacedo> normally the forked processed activity is in the log file
<tmacedo> perhaps overcommit is not enabled and the fork failed?
<dwradcliffe> Can't save in background: fork: Cannot allocate memory
<tmacedo> yeah
<evan> dwradcliffe: where did you see that?
<evan> Ok, I just issued a foreground save
<dwradcliffe> evan: /var/log/redis/redis-server.log
<evan> which obviously is going to block shit
<evan> but thats fine
<evan> i'd rather have a mini outage that lose that data
<tmacedo> what's the output of
<tmacedo> $ sudo sysctl vm.overcommit_memory
<tmacedo> ?
<dwradcliffe> tmacedo: 0
<tmacedo> enabling it will probably solve it
<evan> I did the foreground save
<evan> it's done now.
<tmacedo> as it allows the CoW fork to go ahead even it 2x ram is not available
<evan> i'm actually going to save this backup and do a huge cleanup and restart redis
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<evan> to fix the memory issue
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<dwradcliffe> redis is using 60% of the memory
<evan> I know
<evan> i'm fixing it.
<tmacedo> im off, good luck!
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<evan> ok, redis back down to 17% now.
<evan> i'm going to restart it now too
<evan> to shrink the fragmentation
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<evan> yay fragmentation!
<evan> O_o
<dwradcliffe> awesome
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<evan> on restart, 2.9G to 285m
<dwradcliffe> much better
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<evan> I changed stat-update to no longer tracker per-day stats for now
<evan> they're what cause the problem
<evan> until we can come up with a solution, I was having to nuke them anyway
<evan> might as well jus not create them
<evan> nice
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<drbrain> evan: can I get a dump of UA data?
<drbrain> or can you set up a way for me to fetch it regularly?
<evan> sure
<evan> I need to do that, yeah.
<dwradcliffe> I added an alert for low memory
<evan> thanks.
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<sferik> not sure if this is a known issues / related to this morning's problems…
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<sferik> but it looks like stats are busted
<sferik> "0 downloads today"
<sferik> (for every gem)
<sferik> and no charts
<sferik> qrush evan ^^
<sferik> just reporting it here because http://status.rubygems.org/ is all green
<evan> yep
<evan> I nuked them.
<sferik> !
<evan> no more daily stats
<sferik> !
<sferik> fuck
<sferik> really?
<evan> not until we can actually handle them
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<evan> they just build up in redis and cause issue because we don't have any code to deal with move them out of redis
<sferik> so we're not storing them anymore?
<sferik> are the historical numbers backed up somewhere?
<evan> some
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<evan> but only the last 3 months or so.
<sferik> I feel like we need to do something like this for rubygems: https://scalenpm.org/
<evan> actually no
<evan> we don't
<evan> we've got the money
<sferik> we really need someone (or multiple people) working on this fulltime
<evan> someone just needs to write it
<sferik> okay
<sferik> well, let's hire someone
<sferik> like what indirect is doing for the client
<sferik> we need someone to do that for the server
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<sferik> 365 days a year
<sferik> or multiple people part-time
<evan> there isn't that much work.
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<evan> but doing a specific contract would be fine
<sferik> let's put up a job offer
<sferik> we should be able to fill it within a month or two
<evan> put it up... where?
<evan> :)
<sferik> what process did you use to hire indirect?
<sferik> we can use that same process
<evan> I asked him.
<evan> to do it.
<sferik> okay, do we know anyone who wants to do this and is capable?
<seanlinsley> so the website is going to appear to be broken for a month or two?
<sferik> seanlinsley: not necessarily
<evan> or longer
<evan> or shorter
<dwradcliffe> haha
<sferik> right
<sferik> we just need someone who is focused on it
<evan> I might have some time work on it over the holiday
<dwradcliffe> it = stats?
<evan> anyone else is welcome to dig in there too
<sferik> i'm skeptical that it is a one-time fix
<seanlinsley> in the short term, shouldn't the daily stats be hidden?
<evan> it == ?
<sferik> lots of things are "fixed" until they break
<sferik> for example, running out of disk space
<sferik> or redis overflowing
<evan> thats unrelated
<evan> it's redis that was the issue
<evan> disk space is unrelated is what I meant.
<sferik> but it was full no?
<evan> unrelated.
<evan> 2 events that happened around the same time
<sferik> was that or was that not preventing gems from being pushed
<sferik> okay
<evan> completely seperately
<sferik> yes, i understand
<evan> disk space did not cause any issue yesterday
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<sferik> what was preventing gems from being pushed?
<sferik> redis?
<evan> yes, redis.
<dwradcliffe> evan: redis using resources on the server or redis blocking the app?
<evan> in this case
<evan> it was redis blocking
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<evan> because redis hit it's memory limit
<evan> and thus was returning errors to the app
<evan> which caused the push to fail
<seanlinsley> I ask again: shouldn't the daily stats be hidden until this has been resolved?
<evan> probably.
<sferik> sean, we could 404 that page and remove all links
<evan> nah.
<sferik> the api also returns stats
<evan> just need to remove the graph and the "0 downloads today"
<evan> the page is fine.
<sferik> are the total downloads numbers still accurate?
<evan> qrush has wanted to redo this page anyway
<evan> yep
<dwradcliffe> seanlinsley: send us a PR :)
<sferik> yeah, this page sucks
<evan> downloads per gem and per version
<evan> are still accurate
<evan> it's the per-day stats that are disabled now.
<evan> because, honestly, I don't think they provide much value
<seanlinsley> dwradcliffe: sure :-) it'll have to wait until tonight though
<evan> and they cause a huge headache
<evan> how many people have wanted to know "how many times was rails downloaded on May 3rd?"
<evan> to provide that capability was prohibitive at present
<evan> so i'd rather remove it and add it back in when we can actually handle it (and want to add it back in)
<evan> i'll clean up the graphs on this page today
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<seanlinsley> or evan can do it instead
<dwradcliffe> race! :)
<seanlinsley> haha
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<evan> ok, I have to grab lunch because i've got a meeting at 1
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<ddd> was that staircase problem fixed? I've not seen more details on it
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<ddd> last i saw was the tweets to evanph and qrush
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<drbrain> looks like fixed
<ddd> cool
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<evan> samkottler: poke
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<evan> knife solo won't run on app
<evan> getting
<evan> Chef::Exceptions::ImmutableAttributeModification
<evan> ------------------------------------------------
<evan> Node attributes are read-only when you do not specify which precedence level to set. To set an attribute use code like `node.default["key"] = "value"'
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<samkottler> evan: hey
<evan> hey
<evan> you said you had an instance using chef-cilent
<evan> I wasn't sure which that ways
<evan> I thought that may have something to do with this error
<samkottler> app01 and balancer02
<evan> ok
<samkottler> evan: lemme take a quick look
<evan> I've run knife solo aganist balancer02 yesterday
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<dwradcliffe> evan: what's the source of that error?
<dwradcliffe> file/line
<dwradcliffe> oof, we must be outdated on the runit cookbook
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<dwradcliffe> and I'm guessing the chef client install updated chef
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<evan> yeah, I think it did.
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<dwradcliffe> several cookbooks need to be updated, I'm running vagrant to test
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<vertis> evan: are you around?
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<evan> vertis: yo
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