<Jan\>
guys, when is the lamp app with file manager comming out?
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<Jan\>
I need to be able to delete grains from the grains list!
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<asheesh>
Hi Jan\ ! I appreciate that you need things; I need them too. But I'd appreciate if you could say things "would be nice" rather than "I need" because it is more motivating to hear that things would be nice.
<asheesh>
I do agree that deleting grains would be nice to be able to do from the grain list.
<asheesh>
Hope you are having a happy Thanksgiving, if you're in the US like me!
<Jan\>
I wa emphasizing the urgent need for that feature. ;)
<sprin>
With graphviz installed, it should be just a pip install of the package, then adding the extension name to mkdocs.yml to start using it.
<asheesh>
oh mys prin.
<asheesh>
1. this is awesome.
<asheesh>
2. Does this mean you might be willing to write some graphics?
<asheesh>
3. Massive latency results in typos.
<froggytold>
oh hey i came to the right place
<asheesh>
Howdy froggytold
<froggytold>
hi asheesh
<asheesh>
Do you need some typos? I have some typos! Black Friday sale!!!
<asheesh>
: D anyway hi, how are you.
<froggytold>
i eat typos for festival dinners
<sprin>
asheesh: Yes, be happy to write some graphics!
<froggytold>
good i came because i'm installing sandstorm on my own server with dns, i've never generated a self signed tls cert -- can anyone provide a recommendation for a readme/step by step online?
<asheesh>
froggytold: BTW I suggest using our own sandcats.io dynamic DNS service.
<asheesh>
That has instructions for self-signed and for sandcats.
<Jan\>
i used sandcats for mine, didnt need to generate a cert iirc
<froggytold>
thanks asheesh
<sprin>
asheesh: I'll send you a pull later with the basic request/response handling chain we discussed
<sprin>
asheesh: have a good thanksgiving!
<asheesh>
sprin: This thing looks great, and I'd be happy to use it. I guess I'm going to have to learn how to read & write dot, but luckily I can start by previewing it via the generated HTML.
<asheesh>
Feel free to add the pull request that makes the mkdocs.yml depend on this plugin.
<sprin>
dot is terribly easy until you start getting very fussy with the layout ;)
<sprin>
sure, will do.
<asheesh>
mnutt_: asheesh.org is now powered by davros, and me spending a while figuring out how I configured pyblosxom in 2006.
<asheesh>
Earnest thanks to you.
<mnutt_>
niice!
<asheesh>
Right now I still have nginx in front of it, sadly. Arguably I should figure out how to integrate Let's Encrypt and Sandstorm so port 443 can be owned by Sandstorm....
<asheesh>
If anyone else feels like figuring out how to get nodejs to make API requests to Let's Encrypt, then I could submit a patch to Sandstorm to get it to request certss for domain names people request using the Sandstorm installation.
<mnutt_>
that’d be cool, although doesn’t it have the wildcard cert problem?
<asheesh>
Yeah, but for static publishing it works fine.
<asheesh>
And asheesh.org is a static publishing site. (-:
<mnutt_>
ahh ok. but wouldn’t it need multiple IPs to serve both its letsencrypt cert for the static domain and its sandcats cert for the rest of sandstorm?
<asheesh>
Server Name Indication!
<asheesh>
The HTTPS client tells the server what domain is being requested.
<asheesh>
So Sandstorm can (hilariously) pause the request until it gets a cert from Let's Encrypt, and then ahndle the request.
<asheesh>
And then after that, it can use the cached cert.
<asheesh>
This is what sandcats does in some cases atm.
<asheesh>
Oops, typo/thinko above. My main server (rose.makesad.us) _does_ have Sandstorm owning port 443 already.
<asheesh>
I meant to say that if Sandstorm could do Let's Encrypt, then I could have asheesh.org be HTTPS'd.
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<mnutt_>
I think we’d have to wait a few more days until letsencrypt goes into beta, right? but at that point, yeah, we should give it a try
<mnutt_>
it’d be a lot better if you could do it at time of publishing instead, but I guess you can’t because you won’t necessarily know what cert to get
<asheesh>
Oh, interesting!
<froggytold>
when is letsencrypt going into beta?
<asheesh>
They're already in private beta; public beta supposedly Dec 3 2015
<asheesh>
It's easy to get accepted into the limited beta, too, fwiw.
<froggytold>
i've been hearing about it for awhile -- oh yeah noisebridge is in private beta that's why
<asheesh>
mnutt_: Yeah, I think Kenton would want to wait for an API change -- the "static publishing driver" -- but I'm suddenly eager for asheesh.org HTTPS.
<asheesh>
I mean, I guess I could deal with someone designing the API for a "static publishing driver" that gets told a domain name (which is the main thing missing from the current "API") and then me using it with the copy-paste powerbox or something.