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<jdenz>
Anyone know an easy way to delete users in a self-hosted Sandstorm instance? Am I missing something in the admin or documentation?
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<mnutt>
it looks like the latest jessie64 box in vagrant removes guest additions and forces rsync, which doesn’t seem to work for vagrant-spk
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<jdenz>
For my question above, I should clarify that I'm asking about deleting/removing email users from Sandstorm on the 'admin/users' page, not users of a specific grain.
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<mnutt>
is it possible to track failed syscalls from within a grain? I have an app that works in vagrant outside sandstorm, but fails inside
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<mnutt>
is anyone using the libvirt provider with vagrant-spk?
<mnutt>
it seems that debian/jessie64 doesn't support libvirt
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<dograt>
hi!
<pdurbin>
dograt: hi
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<mnutt>
re: the failed syscalls, I eventually found that the upstream author had fixed it in a later version
<mnutt>
have to wait for it a bit to load, and keyboard input is currently broken on chrome but working on firefox
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<AsheeshRoam>
Omg mnutt please submit
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<kentonv>
mnutt: hah, Alexander Larsson once send us a GIMP spk presumably based on the same tech. It was buggy, though... maybe would be better today?
<kentonv>
mnutt: hmm your gedit spk won't accept my keyboard input. Mouse works though.
<mnutt>
kentonv: yeah, it looks like something broke in chrome. works in firefox, I’ll bet I could get it working.
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<kentonv>
does this work by compiling the whole app with emscripten or some such?
<kentonv>
or does it run server-side?
<mnutt>
it’s a bit unfortunate that broadwayd is packaged as part of gtk+ and not standalone, most of the bugs / quirks seem like things that could be fixed with some dev work
<mnutt>
it runs server-side and uses a gtk backend that renders html5
<mnutt>
(called broadway)
<kentonv>
ah I guess that makes more sense
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<kentonv>
so it's probably laggy when not running locally, I suppose
<mnutt>
pretty much solely developed by Alexander Larrson, I believe
<kentonv>
looks like it's all canvas-based
<mnutt>
some stuff is a bit laggy remotely, unfortunately
<kentonv>
it would be pretty cool to put together a tool that can auto-package gtk apps.
<mnutt>
well, varies from not laggy at all to extremely laggy.
<mnutt>
yeah, it would. It requires gtk 3.18, so debian sid rather than jessie. (gtk 3.14 bundled with jessie has some bugs with trying to use shm and doesn’t work in sandstorm)
<dograt>
Huh, interesting stuff. Had not heard of broadway.
<dograt>
I guess it translates marshalls gdk calls to the browser and paints with canvas
<dograt>
-translates
<dograt>
using websockets
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<mnutt>
it unfortunately doesn’t seem to have any sort of multi-user mode. not sure how that would even work.
<XgF>
mnutt: like screen sharing?
<kentonv>
hmm I bet it would be easy to make work based on merging all users' keyboards / mice
<kentonv>
not sure whether that would actually be useful, though. :)
<mnutt>
haha yeah. making apps intended for single-user use multi-user may be a challenge
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<dograt>
Wouldn't it be analogous to an X display, which is single-user?
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<mnutt>
dograt: yeah, I just mean it’s hard to cross paradigms from single-user X app to a webapp, from a UX perspective. Sandstorm apps can sometimes be a bit more single-user, but still have multi-user edge cases.
<dograt>
mnutt: OK, I see what you mean. I think broadway would be a VNC-window/iframe-in-a-webapp type deal rather than a webapp in and of itself
<dograt>
With all the pitfalls entailed in making that into a multi-user webapp
<mnutt>
yep. seems like things like inkscape and gimp could work well in that context, assuming lag isn’t too bad.
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<dograt>
I guess it would be a decent remote display protocol for GTK apps where most of the graphics calls would be handled by cairo, since cairo and canvas probably match decently well