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<asheesh>
eternaleye: YES
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<asheesh>
loolwsd apparently involves chroot-ing, and is apparently a very micro version of Sandstorm in that regard. : P
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<asheesh>
You'd probably need to replace the chroot-ing that loolwsd does with a no-op, and let the Sandstorm grain system handle filesystem namespace stuff.
<asheesh>
I have to say eternaleye I would be super duper duper excited about seeing that.
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<mnutt__>
interesting that they started with broadway and moved off. I wonder if libreoffice/online still renders canvas or if it’s actually an HTML frontend.
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<brass>
hi there, I've been exploring sandstorm development, can't find any examples or docs on using the ipnetwork/ipinterface options.. can someone point me in the right direction?
<asheesh>
Hi brass !
<asheesh>
jparyani and the rest of us are at a meetup... the best thing is if you can email the sandstorm-dev Google Group and ask there, if you are willing to wait a little bit
<dwrensha>
I don't think anyone has used them for anything nontrivial yet
<dwrensha>
we're busy implementing the powerbox user interface
<dwrensha>
Once we have a good powerbox UI and some driver apps, I expect that lots of interesting examples using interfaces like IpNetwork will follow.
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<brass>
thanks
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<gwillen>
hmm, so I'm curious why I can create grains on oasis
<gwillen>
I feel like I shouldn't be able to do that
<gwillen>
unless oasis and alpha are secretly linked
<asheesh>
gwillen: Free accounts 4 everyone!!
<asheesh>
is the answer
<gwillen>
haha
<asheesh>
You're limited to 5 grains, like all free account users, presumably. Look at the "Account settings" in the top-right (click on your name) then look for "Billing"
<gwillen>
ahhhh, cool, okay
<gwillen>
yes indeed, I have a free account with 200MB of space
<gwillen>
and 5 grains
<asheesh>
Plenty for your laptop bacups
<gwillen>
well, it is if I shard
<asheesh>
s/bacups/backups/
<gwillen>
200MB for a@nerdnet.org, 200MB for b@nerdnet.org, .... ;-)
<gwillen>
haha, also it seems that all I have to do to get more
<gwillen>
is click "MEGA [free during beta]"
<gwillen>
and then I have 100GB
<asheesh>
Yup
<asheesh>
Welcome to beta
<gwillen>
\o/
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<sprin>
asheesh, kentonv, zarvox (maybe others here?): it was good to meet you
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<uppermgmt>
hey guys, does anyone know why a working sandcats installation on port 443 would be unable to load grains once i moved it to port 8443 (after updating HTTPS_PORT and BASE_URL, and re-adding my github authentication)
<uppermgmt>
just get the grain spinner
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<asheesh>
Hi uppermgmt
<asheesh>
You need the port number in WILDCARD_HOST
<sprin>
not a work of art, but it got the job done very quickly :)
<sprin>
sandstorm packaging time :)
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<phildini>
hey does the sandstorm ipython notebook have access to requests?
* phildini
goes to try
<asheesh>
Nope, alas.
<asheesh>
That should be possible for us to sandbox in about 1-4 weeks ('though this is not a promise etc.').
<phildini>
dang... I'm looking for a place to do a coding interview that has access to requests...
<asheesh>
jparyani knows the magic capnproto invocations to get working outbound HTTP, but yeah, if your timeframe is 0-1 months, you probably will want to look elsewhere.
<asheesh>
The good news is we're getting close to being able to satisfy that use-case.
<zarvox>
sprin: great to meet you too!
<mnutt>
someone just asked me about how to dynamically list files in davros’ web publishing
<mnutt>
I told them how to create a webkey and make api requests with ajax, but it feels a bit weird
<mnutt>
I really hope he doesn’t give the webkey write access.
<zarvox>
mnutt: I...guess you could also write an index of each directory that you've published?
<zarvox>
if publishing is enabled, then generate some index manifest when you change the contents of a folder?
<asheesh>
i,i .htaccess: Indexes On
<mnutt>
yeah, I’d just prefer to not have to constantly keep those indexes up to date
<mnutt>
if you want directory indexes, just share actual davros access with someone.
<zarvox>
fair enough :)
<mnutt>
I don’t know that person’s end goal though, the davros directory listing may not be what they’re looking for
<zarvox>
maybe they want to just publish a folder of artifacts publicly, and be able to modify that published thing via ownCloud client sync
<sprin>
i, i: the sign-up flow for the paid plans is smooth
<mnutt>
I need to do a bit of work on that though, right now it shows the Clients page but you can’t actually connect clients. it would be awesome to publicly share some files and let the people you share with automatically sync those to their computers
<sprin>
mnutt: thanks for davros! just installed for the first time right this moment
<mnutt>
lots of people use FileDrop as well, though my goal is to make it as easy to share stuff with davros as it is with filedrop
<mnutt>
so you send requests to the proxy and it sends debug info back in the body of the response? neat.
<sprin>
yep
<mnutt>
it may help me figure out why x-forwarded-for seems to work on oasis but not on my sandcats instance
<sprin>
for the requests/response header changes I have been working on.
<sprin>
I found the debug cycle was really slow, so I made something to speed it up
<asheesh>
I am personally +1 on debug apps living in the app market.
<asheesh>
Maybe we have to slightly reorganize the app market so they're not front-and-center for people who definitely don't care about them, but that's something we should do rather than neglect to do.
<asheesh>
"we" here could be "me"
<sprin>
heh
<sprin>
yeah, I would be happy to submit it to the app store, as long as it's not taking real estate from any of the apps there now
<sprin>
it looks like all apps appear in "featured now"? I wouldn't want it to be seen there
<sprin>
perhaps a "sandstorm dev tools" section could be made?
<asheesh>
I'm imagining maybe a self-install diagnostics app could go in here, as could the various powerbox demo apps, as could your new one, whatever we call the category.
<sprin>
sounds good.
<asheesh>
Oh, dear, if you say yes, then maybe I should actually make it.
<sprin>
mnutt: I did notice that if you upload a file via the web ui, it does not appear in the files list right away. You have to refresh the page.
<sprin>
I didn't see an issue filed, want me to file one?
<mnutt>
that sounds like a bug. are you using IE by chance?
<sprin>
ff 42
<mnutt>
ah, ok. a bug report would be great, thanks
<asheesh>
I think a table would be nicer than DL DT etc.
<asheesh>
Wandering off for a bit.
<mnutt>
this is really awesome
<mnutt>
and yeah, the DL / DT get slightly misaligned sometimes
<sprin>
yes, noted. will fix :)
<asheesh>
(also, bikeshedding: Can you call it HTTP Header Debugger not Proxy Debugger, fwiw btw? OK wandering off for real for now.)
<sprin>
asheesh: yes, I like your name. I am terrible at names.
<sprin>
also, if you think of a good name for pg-discuss besides PineComment, I am open. I am inclined to something with Comment or Discuss in the name.
<asheesh>
aldeka: ^ name ideas for a Disqus alternative?
<asheesh>
http://www.gamefaqs.com/iphone/964289-equivocatr "Equivocatr is a game where you can lie to your friends trick your family and have a great time. Grab a group of friends and family together for a game of Equivocatr!"
<aldeka>
rhetorical.ly
<aldeka>
I dunno. I like pine trees.
<aldeka>
Vociferously coniferous.
<asheesh>
: D
<asheesh>
That's pretty amazing.
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<uppermgmt>
asheesh: re wildcard port number, thanks! Will try it out.