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<simonv3_> Hey kentonv, I’m finally looking into https://github.com/simonv3/quick-survey/issues/41 (e-mail in meteor)
<simonv3_> Just wanted to confirm I need to install the node-capnp package right? (meteor npm install --save capnp)
<zarvox> simonv3_: at present, meteor-spk provides the binary module and the sandstorm .capnp's you'd import for you, so that shouldn't be necessary at this time.
<simonv3_> (it’s been a while since I’ve worked with meteor, what’s meteor-spk? Is that just meteor?)
<simonv3_> or is that something specifically for sandstorm?
<zarvox> it's specifically for Sandstorm
<zarvox> spk is the "sandstorm package" tool
<simonv3_> ah gotcha
<zarvox> meteor-spk integrates with spk
<zarvox> :)
<simonv3_> barking up the wrong tree
<zarvox> and the vagrant-spk meteor stack makes use of meteor-spk
<simonv3_> so for this code to work I would have to be running inside the sandstorm environment?
<zarvox> Ah, yes.
<simonv3_> that’s cool, just something know :)
<zarvox> if you're testing with just "meteor run" then meteor-spk isn't injecting the libraries onto your path
<simonv3_> a clue on how long it’s been: I’m still running meteor 1.2. Which would explain it complaining about that require.
<asheesh> ohai all
<simonv3_> 👋
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<russruss> Hey all, just checked out sand storm for the first time a few days ago. There are so many amazingly cool ideas in this platform! One question that I’m finding difficult to understand in the documentation: do grains run all the time; or do they only spin up when requests get sent to them? I’m wondering if it’s possible to create an RSS reader service that can push notify clients when a new article is published
<asheesh> russruss: Only when users are looking at them, generally. Normally I'd be happy to chat more, but I'm not feeling super well today, but others here or on the sandstorm-dev Google Group are going to be happy to help you more!
<dwrensha> russruss: we want to introduce a cron-like API that will allow grains to perform periodic work
<russruss> asheesh: feel better! thanks for the information
<russruss> dwrensha: yeah, I think that would open up a lot more possibilities for application writers
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<Simon[m]> That reminds me, someone posted something to the dev group and I need to go over and give it a thumbs up.
<Simon[m]> On an other note: I've been experiencing issues upgrading to the new version of meteor where it hangs for forever.
<Simon[m]> I got past it on my local machine by blocking a meteor url in my etc/hosts (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39153477/how-do-i-resolve-this-error-enoent-no-such-file-or-file-or-directory-open-t), but my vagrant-spk driven vm is still hanging. Anyone have any ideas?
<dwrensha> Simon[m]: I was hitting a similar error recently
<dwrensha> manually resolving DNS with `host warehouse.meteor.com` and adding the result to /etc/hosts fixed the problem for me
<dwrensha> can you edit the /etc/hosts file in the vagrant-spk vm?
<dwrensha> ...by calling `vagrant-spk vm ssh` into it
<zarvox> Is Meteor's CDN down or DNS broken or what?
<dwrensha> it seems like some code somewhere in Meteor's magic packaging scripts makes some assumptions about how DNS will behave, and Meteor's newish CDN somehow breaks those assumptions
<dwrensha> at least that's my theory
<Simon[m]> dwrensha: Yeah, I'll try that when I'm back online in a couple of hours, thanks for the the tip
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<Simon[m]> hmm, I'm having to install g++ in the vagrant-spk vm to compile node-gyp (which I think is needed for fibers?). Is that a thing that should happen? Or should that be set up in the vm already?
<Simon[m]> (did I do something to horribly brake things)
<dwrensha> Simon[m]: does your app use Meteor 1.4?
<Simon[m]> Yeah, that's what I bumped up to.
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<dwrensha> Simon[m]: I haven't followed that whole discussion, but my impression is that it should be possible to build Meteor 1.4 apps with vagrant-spk, but it will require a bit of manual configuration
<Simon[m]> :thumbsup:
<dwrensha> ... the important bit being that you need meteor-spk version 0.3.0
<Simon[m]> Thanks for the link, I’ll have a look
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<Simon[m]> so should I re-provision the vm?
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<asheesh> Howdy Simon[m]
<Simon[m]> hey asheesh
<asheesh> w/r/t meteor 1.4 + vagrant-spk:
<asheesh> Right now, I have some somewhat-complicated advice for you; it's not all pre-packaged.
<asheesh> Let me dig that up though!
<asheesh> I began taking notes on this yesterday -- https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/issues/193 -- and so my advice for you is:
<asheesh> 1. Make sure you install g++ in the VM. You can do so manually via 'vagrant-spk vm ssh' or you can do so via automation in .sandstorm/setup.sh
<asheesh> If you need specific advice on how to best-automate it, I can definitely provide that.
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<asheesh> 2. In .sandstorm/setup.sh I recommend changing the METEOR_RELEASE=1.1.0.2 line to be METEOR_RELEASE=1.4.1.2; see also this comment, https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/issues/193#issuecomment-252112698
<Simon[m]> looks like when I pointed setup.sh to meteor-spk=0.3.0 and destroyed my vm and booted it up again (which I hope isn’t prematurely disastrous) it at least looks like it tried to install gcc
<Simon[m]> (I also changed that METEOR_RELEASE variable)
<asheesh> 3. In .sandstorm/setup.sh you will need to use meteor-spk 0.3.0 but seems you already figured that out!
<asheesh> That's my advice, plus you'd need to either destroy-recreate or 'vagrant-spk vm provision'.
<asheesh> Does it work for you? :)
<Simon[m]> Hmm, output prints out:
<Simon[m]> Err http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86 amd64 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5
<Simon[m]> 404 Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.73 80]
<asheesh> Yeah, OK :) one sec
<Simon[m]> but everything else seems to be going fine
<asheesh> One sec
<asheesh> What I do is add that right above the "PACKAGE=meteor-spk-0.3.0" line.
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<asheesh> Also hi! Are you a Simon I already know? Or a new Simon? Just curious!
<Simon[m]> simonv3
<Simon[m]> using matrix :)
<asheesh> Ah, great!
<Simon[m]> that simonv3 is my matrix username, but oddly enough that doesn’t translate to IRC.
<Simon[m]> ¯_(ツ)_/¯
<asheesh> simonv3[m]
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<Simon[m]> it’s all still a bit mysterious
<asheesh> Yeah, agreed.
<asheesh> Those who love it seem to love it, but I tried to set it up once and got totally confused.
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<Simon[m]> I’m confused about where things are hosted, and how it works with IRC
<Simon[m]> but the Riot UI has come a long way
<Simon[m]> I wonder if it’s confusing to non-IRC people
<asheesh> I really want, one day, Matrix-on-Sandstorm, and then I'd self-host something or other. But yeah, for now, where things are hosted is a question that confuses me.
<asheesh> Maybe if I didn't care about that it'd be easier!
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<Simon[m]> hmm, looks like it all failed:
<Simon[m]> default: /opt/app/.sandstorm/setup.sh: line 19: Downloading meteor-spk-0.3.0...: command not found
<asheesh> :)
<Simon[m]> so maybe my line ther eisn’t right?
<asheesh> "command not found" is pretty amazing.
<asheesh> My line there is:
<asheesh> PACKAGE=meteor-spk-0.1.8
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<asheesh> And that's the only thing I change.
<asheesh> Well, plus the other things I said I change.
<asheesh> PACKAGE=meteor-spk-0.3.0
<asheesh> rather.
<Simon[m]> yeah that’s what it says:
<Simon[m]> PACKAGE=meteor-spk-0.3.0
<asheesh> "commadn not found" is pretty impressive.
<asheesh> I propose you do:
<asheesh> set -x
<asheesh> right above the PACKAGE= line
<Simon[m]> so this is what my setup.sh looks like:
<Simon[m]> oh wait
<Simon[m]> sharing
<Simon[m]> ^ there you go
<asheesh> Cool. FWIW you're going to see some amazing output right before the "command not found" if you run it again.
<asheesh> vagrant-spk vm provision
<asheesh> should be the most straightforward way to run it again.
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<asheesh> How'd that work out for you, Simon[m] ?
<Simon[m]> which was after a destroy & up
<Simon[m]> and it seems to be just hanging there
<Simon[m]> do you want the full log?
<asheesh> Sure! Or a working link : P
<Simon[m]> oh I didn’t notice it errored for you
<Simon[m]> another matrix mystery!
<asheesh> I mean your link isn't URL-encoded so it could be that there's some ambiguity or something.
<Simon[m]> (I just copy pasted)
<Simon[m]> Which I think Matrix put into a txt file?
<asheesh> Yeah, but it has spaces that aren't %20 so I'm concerned there's some problem where I'm not following exactly the link you want me to be following.
<Simon[m]> hmm, hold on a sec, I’m going through it and it’s saying there was a keyboard interrupt, which I don’t remember doing?
<asheesh> !
<Simon[m]> so, when I do vagrant-spk vm provision vagrant-spk tells me argument not found
<Simon[m]> Am I running an old version of vagrant-spk?
<asheesh> Sure sounds like it.
<Simon[m]> this would explain a lot of commands that don’t work for me
<Simon[m]> look at all those shiny new commands!
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<Simon[m]> Is there a good logs copy*paste tool for sandstorm yet?
<Simon[m]> feels like overkill pasting it into etherpad
<asheesh> Basically "no because there isn't a supported create-new-grain API yet"
<asheesh> But in theory Kenton has remarked this is possible by using the DDP API....
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<isd> Is the size at the top of the grain page memory or disk usage?
<asheesh> Disk
<isd> Ok.
<isd> And does that include the stuff from the spk, or is it jus the mutable storage?
<asheesh> Just mutable
<asheesh> Great Qs
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<Simon[m]> output
<Simon[m]> I’m not sure it completed successfully, it just stopped at the end
<asheesh> It looks like it completed but failed to give you your terminal back because life is hard.
<asheesh> I've seen that before and I wish I understood it.
<asheesh> So it's safe to ^C it at this point, and then continue with 'vagrant-spk dev'.
<asheesh> Also you can remove the 'set -x' thing.
<Simon[m]> heh
<Simon[m]> Okay, vagrant-spk dev has been updating package catalog for a while now, but I feel like it has been known to do that
<asheesh> Yeah, it'll take like 5 to 10 minutes in my experience.
<Simon[m]> I wonder if I have to re-apply the host block I did this morning
<asheesh> Find yourself some mate or beer or fizzy water or iced tea or another nice drink to pass the time.
<asheesh> "host block"?
<Simon[m]> earlier this morning I was having issues with meteor updating that it got stuck. What I needed to do was to add the warehouse IP to my local and vm’s /etc/hosts file
<isd> Also, I'm having trouble downloading a zip backup. I quickly get a failed download from both firefox and chromium. Having finding anything useful in the misc. browser tools.
<asheesh> Ah, right, Simon[m]
<isd> ...I have some suspicions about why my Freenode grain is taking ~300MiB, but I'd like to confirm.
<isd> P
<asheesh> isd: Hmm, that's weird. Do other apps work properly wtih downloading a grain backup on your server? Does "Server log" in the admin area have anything related to backups?
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<isd> asheesh: some of the smaller ones download succesfully, but my ~30MiB davros instance dies as well.
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<isd> Let me check the admin panel
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<isd> Nothing obviously relevant. Just stuff about renewing the https cert.
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<asheesh> I must run off to a meeting in a sec, so for now let me say (a) that sounds like an important Sandstorm bug that we should look into, and (b) can you SSH in and read /opt/sandstorm/var/grains/{{grainId}}/sandbox , see also https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/administering/guide/
<isd> re (b): looked at the one for my OFTC grain, it's exactly what I would expect.
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<isd> Also had no idea the console logs were kept (seemingly) forever; I had assumed I was leaking storage in the DB, but the oftc grain's storage is only ~80KiB; the console log is basically the whole ~30MiB
<isd> Would be nice to maybe occasionally clear/rotate/not include that in the backup
<isd> (worth noting that irc-idelr does a *lot* of logging currently; have the level cranked up to debug)
<isd> (but it's also been running for a month or two at this point)
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<isd> (I *am* leaking stuff to the DB, but not that quickly)
<zarvox> Yeah. I'm loathe to randomly truncate the log or omit it from backups, since on Oasis (or if you aren't the server admin) that's the only way for you to get at the logs past what we show in the debug window live, which doesn't always include the entirety of the log. But it might be nice to at least have a "truncate log" button if it's really a problem for verbose or long-lived grains.
<isd> Given that the intended use of IRC Idler involves having one grain live for as long as I keep using Freenode...
<isd> It does a lot of debug loging, but the grain is > 300MiB
<isd> and growing.
<isd> Ideally it would just be a separate thing from the mutable storage.
<isd> Oh, nvm, it is outside /var. but yeah, should be something you can treat as a separate component
<isd> But yes, I have a 312MiB log for an app that, after fixing a space leak, ought to be taking up 93 bytes right now.
<isd> Well, plus the size of an empty sqlite databsae
<zarvox> Noted. :)
<zarvox> I am curious what sort of policy you'd suggest the platform enforce on log retention, as it would apply to all apps everywhere
<isd> ...and I'm on a tea shop's wifi, wanting to inspect the state :P
<zarvox> isd: if you have shell access to the server, I suggest poking around in /opt/sandstorm/var/sandstorm/grains/$GRAIN_ID/
<isd> Most obvious improvement would be just to be able to download the bits in sandbox *only*
<isd> zarvox: that's what I've been doing
<zarvox> oh, good :)
<isd> ...but I think it's still an illustrative point.
<isd> but yeah, logs aren't really something a user would necessarily want to back up as much as the stuff in sandbo
<isd> *sandbox
<isd> Maybe the last two weeks as a starting point? that seems like plenty for most uses.
<zarvox> ahhh, so perhaps splitting the log out of the backup, and having the grain log separately downloadable?
<isd> zarvox: yeah, that's the first thing I would do.
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<isd> cool.
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