00:48 <zarvox> Yeah, there's kinda this iron triangle of "reproducible builds" and "tiny packages" and "not having to manually specify everything you want to go in the package"

00:49 <zarvox> pick at most two, but one of these has to give

00:52 <simpson> zarvox: Have you seen Nix?

00:52 <zarvox> my read is that the approach most of the rest of the world has taken is give up on the tiny packages part, but Sandstorm preserves the optionality at the cost of making packaging a bit less predictable

00:54 <zarvox> simpson: Nix seems like it could be a great fit for this sort of thing!

01:04 <ocdtrekkie> The magical appearance of zarvox makes me wonder if he also marked "Drew" to ping him somehow.

01:04 <ocdtrekkie> I really like tiny packages, as a specific point. I really, really like tiny packages.

01:05 <ocdtrekkie> My home/car automation software fits in a 7 MB zip file. It used to be like 7.5 MB but I was able to drop a dependency recently.