<aerth>
i ran into a "ERROR: The server threw an exception. Details: (remote):0: failed: remote exception: remote exception: openat(): Permission denied", when ssh into the server and edit the hackercms filesystem manually and forget to chown or chmod the new files
<aerth>
is that the same kind of one
<isd>
aerth: that sounds like a different problem than what you hit before, and not one I'd classify as a bug; Sandstorm expects to own the files in grain storage.
<aerth>
yeah weird usecase for sure
<isd>
The way Sandstorm is written unexpected things like that are likely to cause an exception; in this case just chown it back to the right thing. If the exception ends up getting displayed to the user under "normal" circumstances then we should probably catch it and generate a proper error message, but for stuff like this it's fine to just dump the raw exception.
<aerth>
well i was trying to make a directory in hackercms, seems impossible. switched to hugo
<aerth>
or leaving the fileserver to caddy which is the reverse proxy that sandstorm is already behind
<aerth>
stickin with hugo for now :) has directories and serves files ☑️
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<kmisterk>
Hey all!
<isd>
Hello!
<kmisterk>
Oh snap, it's matrix bridged. Hold up.
<kmisterk>
Or...Is that just ... a tag? Is there a matrix channel for #sandstorm?
<kmisterk>
Okay, anyway, to my initial reason for arriving. Perhaps I didn't search well enough for it yet, but is there an existing package to add some kind of URL shortening service to Sandstorm? Like, when sharing a file, etc? or any sort of link, just kind of pass it through a URL shortener as an additional option when copying a "share" link or similar?
<isd>
Re: url shortening, there is not.
<isd>
Re: matrix, several of us are using the matrix.org <-> freenode bridge, and I set up a room alias so #sandstorm:matrix.org is the same as the freenode channel. I'm not totally sure I grok the way matrix works and whether that's different from having a stand-alone matrix room and bridging.
<isd>
ChanServ on freenode is configured to kick folks that aren't identfieid though (we had spam problems a couple years back when this was set up), so it's a bit weird in that if you're logged in through matrix but not identified through NickServ, you can talk to other matrix users in here but IRC-only users can't hear you...
<isd>
What's your use case for the url shortener?
<kmisterk>
Well, I don't know that i actually have a legitimate use-case for it yet, however, if I am to understand that some of the apps produce links that you then share with others that do not have their own access to your server, such as a one-off file-share download, the link may not look pretty.
<kmisterk>
I guess I'll just play with it.
<isd>
Yeah, part of that is that the sharing links are meant to be secrets, so you don't need separate authentication. So (a) that reuqires a certain amount of entropy that puts a bound on how short you can make it without compromising security, and (b) if you use some external URL shortener, you're leaking access to that service.
<kmisterk>
Yeah, just tested a URL share link from the stadnard filedrop app and man, it's atrociously long.
<isd>
Yeah, it's really only reasonable when you expect people to click the link, rather than remember it and type it in.
<kmisterk>
I wouldn't wanna use an external URL shortener, but instead, package one, or even a small script, that can use one on the same server. Like, if I host a standard php-based yourls instance.
<kmisterk>
isd of course, yeah. Like an email share, or hidden behind <a> tags.
<kmisterk>
Was just curious about whether or not an integrated URL shortener app was available. Gonna look into seeing about packaging one.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
Problem would be that links to access your URL shortener package would be just as long as the original share URL.
<isd>
It also gets a bit weird because if you host the url shortener on sandstorm, you need to get to it soemhow... so chicken and egg.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
Not sure you could do that from inside Sandstorm.
<isd>
Maybe you could do something with static publishing, but it seems like it would be pretty hacky.
<kmisterk>
Hmm. any way to change the ddns provider to something different?
<kmisterk>
nvm, found it.
<kmisterk>
hmm. Think I'll switch over to cloudflare. That should allow me to do what I'm after, I think.
<kmisterk>
Thanks for the pointers, folks! Appreciated.
<isd>
No problem!
<kmisterk>
Hey, quick side-tangent of something semi-related, I notice the docs mention being able to host on a mini chromebox, but the documentation it links to in regards to *how* to do so is a bit dated...
<JacobWeisz[m]>
Note that if you want to host multiple services on the same host, it is also possible to do with Sandcats as your dynamic DNS provider, it requires a little script to extract the certs. But yeah, Cloudflare and a bunch of other DNS providers work with Sandstorm's ACME support.
<kmisterk>
the hardware steps showcased in the first half is great, exactly what you'd need to do to get to the point of modifying the firmware, but then, he references a Kodi install process, but that's not the goal. The goal is a ubuntu server install for the purposes of getting sanstorm installed.
<kmisterk>
Personally, I believe that showcasing such a process in the first place is really outside the scope of the purpose of the docs for sandstorm.io, but if anything, links to external sources of info should be generic, and to communities that can assist, not necessarily to a specific tutorial that get's dated quickly. Such as the
<kmisterk>
crazy how the mind fails to connect relevant details until after the fact.
<isd>
The history thing is part of why I'm logged in via matrix though (for other channels too). Ironically I'm still using weechat (an IRC client), just not the IRC protocol...
<kmisterk>
Wasn't able to join the matrix channel, fwiw.
<kmisterk>
Seems to be that it isn't letting me join because I need a registered nick. but hmm...
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<kmisterk>
Holy...
<kmisterk>
Cool, so it's now allowing me from matrix. WOO!