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<iKillCypher>
:D
<chadouming_work>
any reason to be that happy ?
<iKillCypher>
yeah
<iKillCypher>
opensource hwc,opensource audio etc for i9100
<chadouming_work>
then don't share
<iKillCypher>
who would not be
<chadouming_work>
it's not the place to be happy
<Jiangyi>
Still runs crappily last I heard :-P
<Entropy512>
much derp to be fixed
<iKillCypher>
Hello Entropy512 :S
<Entropy512>
fucking bufferqueue shit
<iKillCypher>
did you manage to see the samsung developer respond to be
<iKillCypher>
about the audio bug?
<bbqbot>
derp
<chadouming_work>
ohhh entropy512
<chadouming_work>
you got my pm ?
<Entropy512>
huh?
<Entropy512>
iKillCypher: no idea what you're talking about
<Entropy512>
and it's still not quite working right
<Jug6ernaut>
but i <3 the note 2...wish there was a "phablet" alternative
<Entropy512>
but blob was totally dead in 4.2
<Entropy512>
so we have to live with the fail of opensource
<iKillCypher>
the opensource is based on ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<joecool>
solution, don't buy closed crapsung
<Entropy512>
NHK World Live TV app has corrupt colors for example
<Entropy512>
insignal source with a pile of fixes and reverse engineering
<Entropy512>
LOTS of fixes needed to repair derps
<iKillCypher>
ouch samsung
<iKillCypher>
hear their source are shitty too :D
<iKillCypher>
do their developers even help at all or no
<Entropy512>
no, we haven't ever gotten anything useful from our devrel contact. we ask her a question, she asks an engineer a question, they lie to her.
<joecool>
would suggest buying sony if you want manufacturer support
<chadouming_work>
lol
<Entropy512>
She cares but she's working within an organization that doesn't. :(
<chadouming_work>
typical big company devrel
<iKillCypher>
thats sad
<Jug6ernaut>
typical big company bs
<chadouming_work>
yup
<Entropy512>
now that we have far more detailed ammo we might be able to get an answer from one of the insignal guys
* iKillCypher
wonders how is LG lol
<Entropy512>
but highly unlikely
<Jug6ernaut>
its called pr, u say one thing and u do another lol
<joecool>
iKillCypher: likely same deal, korea's a fucked place
<Entropy512>
LG uses qcom chips and as I understand it actually answer's arcee's questions
<chadouming_work>
iKillCypher, well, up to now we have a mostly working build of CM10.1 for our optimus G (canadian one)
<iKillCypher>
qcom chips are awesome
<chadouming_work>
and it's freaking smooth
<joecool>
the omap ones are even better for support
<iKillCypher>
everything is like infornt of you
<Jug6ernaut>
they didnt use to be
* Jug6ernaut
remembers winmobile days
<chadouming_work>
even tho we have a fucktons of error in logcat
<iKillCypher>
huh I thought qcom was better then omap
<Entropy512>
so it sounds like LG is at least slightly better (if you're using a qcom-based one) - other than the fact that many of them have full lockdown
<Entropy512>
Optimus G is locked
<Jug6ernaut>
qualcrap was a frequently phrase lol
<chadouming_work>
has been unlocked :P
<Entropy512>
I don't support a device unless it's officially unlockable
<chadouming_work>
our main problem right now is wifi and audio routing
<iKillCypher>
<@Entropy512> Optimus G is locked > this isnt an issue :D
<joecool>
iKillCypher: either are better than zero-support exynos4 crap
<Jiangyi>
Entropy512: Heard you were getting an Xperia T. AT&T variant finally has an unlock method or are you buying direct from Sony?
<chadouming_work>
and i think wifi is not something big
* iKillCypher
wont be getting any more samsung products
<Entropy512>
qualcomm has changed majorly in ref source quality over the past year
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<chadouming_work>
must be a little detail we are missing
<Entropy512>
Jiangyi: Sony is sending me one
<Jiangyi>
Oh nice
<Jiangyi>
:O
<Entropy512>
it's actually an XDA deal
<iKillCypher>
I may move onto omap or qualcomm no idea which is better for development
<Entropy512>
not sure of the timeline/details
<Jiangyi>
Sony be bribing all teh devs with devices lol
<chadouming_work>
haha
<Jug6ernaut>
isnt omap dying out?
<iKillCypher>
sony are smart
<chadouming_work>
yup
<joecool>
afaik they offer any phone you need on loan if you're doing dev
<chadouming_work>
samsung only have use community now
* iKillCypher
wonders why he never gotten a sony phone back then
<Entropy512>
pretty much, device bribes, with, more importantly, followup and tech support
<chadouming_work>
sony is getting dev community
<chadouming_work>
which is way better
<Entropy512>
Samsung threw a few devices over the wall last year
<chadouming_work>
watch everyone go to sony soon
<Entropy512>
but failed to follow through
<joecool>
Entropy512: well imo, they learned their lesson from the abomination the X10 was
<joecool>
they were pretty much kickbanned from the US market after that disaster
<iKillCypher>
loll
<Jiangyi>
lol my cousin still has an X10 :-P
<Entropy512>
joecool: I wish we had a recording of the "XDA Past, Present and Future" presentation, which include Samsung and Sony devrel guys at the BABBQ
<Entropy512>
devrel guy apologized to jerpelea for the X10
<iKillCypher>
anyway Entropy512 :P I believe 4.2 will be the last supported android version for I9100 right :(
<Jiangyi>
At least they updated that thing from 1.6 all the way through 2.3
<Entropy512>
almost surely
<joecool>
Entropy512: hahaha, nice
<chadouming_work>
well, i9100 has been out for what, 2 years ?
<joecool>
Jiangyi: it took them forever to do it though
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<iKillCypher>
there isnt any butter experience T_T
<iKillCypher>
but sgs3 and sgs2 uses Exynos4
<chadouming_work>
eh, it's fucking smooth with my optimus g :P
<joecool>
not all sgs2 run exynos4
<iKillCypher>
I meant international version
<joecool>
they have omap and qcom variants
<joecool>
I9100G?
<iKillCypher>
so work that is done for sgs3 can be pushed for sgs2
<iKillCypher>
no !! international version
<iKillCypher>
I9100
<Jiangyi>
9100G is also an international version.
<iKillCypher>
exynos4
<joecool>
I9100G is international
<joecool>
lol
<iKillCypher>
lmao ? they never released here
<joecool>
here is where?
<Jiangyi>
iKillCypher: I9100G replaced the I9100 in many Asia markets and some European countries
<Entropy512>
I9100G is international, mainly in Asia I think
<chadouming_work>
well, there is LTE device and internationnal device xD
<Entropy512>
India especially
<iKillCypher>
when I got my I9100 note came out soon after
<iKillCypher>
whoops
<Entropy512>
LTE GS2s (Hercules, Skyrocket) were MSM8660
<iKillCypher>
when I got my I9100, galaxy note came out soon after
<iKillCypher>
Singapore
<iKillCypher>
lol
<Jiangyi>
China only sold the I9100 for half a month before switching to I9100G
<joecool>
yeah it's kinda a PITA to get in the US, honestly it's the only crapsung device i'd consider, but after hating the N7000 so much, i just don't want to support them
<Jiangyi>
Which is why Samsung China doesn't even bother with 4.1 for I9100, they just work on 4.1 for 9100G
<joecool>
i don't need/want LTE because i'm rocking a $10/month (truly) unlimited 3G plan
<joecool>
and HSPA is fine for most stuff
<iKillCypher>
Entropy512 : work done for exynos 4412 can be pushed for 4210 ? am I right?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jiangyi>
You know Samsung's really trying to fool customers when they sell I9100Gs in 9100 boxes :-|
<Jiangyi>
(Which was exactly what happened)
<joecool>
Jiangyi: yeah i'm reading reports all on amazon from chinese sellers shipping the G
<Entropy512>
most of it, hell I haven't even touched my 4412 yet
<iKillCypher>
is there a different in sgs3 exynos chip and sgs2 exynos chip?
<Entropy512>
been doing all of this work on 4210
<Entropy512>
gs2 = 4210, gs3 = 4412
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<joecool>
iKillCypher: extra cores
<joecool>
lol
<Jiangyi>
joecool: Chinese Sammys also have a different bootloader, so you can only flash Chinese stock ROMs unless you jump quite a few hoops
<iKillCypher>
does that affect anything :3 cause if work can be done for 4412, I believe only afew patches then it would work on 4210
<iKillCypher>
sorry if Im wrong
<Entropy512>
there are a bunch of other differences that might affect camera
<iKillCypher>
dont really understand the development that well
<Entropy512>
but a lot of the work that went into codeworkx fixing his gs3 was done on my note.
<Entropy512>
espenfjo was on i9100
<joecool>
Jiangyi: good to know, what kind of hoops are we talking?
<joecool>
if it's something like paperclips like i did for the sony's, not a big deal
<joecool>
(testpoint)
<iKillCypher>
Entropy512 and it work flawlessly ?
<Entropy512>
no
<Entropy512>
but 4210 and 4412 are about equal
<Entropy512>
lots of work to do
<Entropy512>
like figuring out why gralloc derps in 4.2 but not 4.1
<joecool>
i will say this, the N7000 (with the exception of video accel) and stuff that needed extra ram
<iKillCypher>
ohh I get it :P so work done on sgs3 may not work on sgs2
<Entropy512>
currently it's only working with major hax
<joecool>
ran worse than my aging xperia arc on CM10
<Jiangyi>
joecool: Changing the bootloader from Intl. to Chinese or vice versa is different for different chipsets
<joecool>
which a single core 1ghz
<Jiangyi>
9100G can do it using OMAPFlash
* iKillCypher
wonder what cell he should get next :3
<iKillCypher>
Nivida Tegra ?
<iKillCypher>
LMAO
<iKillCypher>
Andreo ?
<Jiangyi>
Ironically, a Samsung employee also leaked a bootloader change package that uses Odin, which I still think might be a bit sketchy :/
<joecool>
hmm, yeah samsung does seem to have a history of releasing landmines
<iKillCypher>
Qualcomm documention is public right and updated most of the time ?
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<Jiangyi>
Although they somehow made the 9100G and 9108 not have the superbrick bug :-P
<joecool>
i will say, the note was a big disappointment for me, not speaking for the qcom US version, i've heard better things
<joecool>
and that was coming from a dell streak 5 (which you sorta knew what you were getting into)
<Jiangyi>
I even heard things about the LTE note being able to do AWS by flashing a different radio lol
<joecool>
Jiangyi: from what i gather, they go with the qcom chips because it supports adding radios easier
<iKillCypher>
any idea why was I9100G Released ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<joecool>
if the qcom chipset itself supports a frequency band in addition to whatever other modems were added, they sometimes disable?
<Jiangyi>
iKillCypher: Believe it's because they weren't able to make enough Exynos chips in time or something :-P
<Jiangyi>
So I call I9100G "Samsung's greatest accident" xD
<joecool>
4 is a bad number
<joecool>
exynos4, pentium4...
<chadouming_work>
eh, s4 are good coc zS
<chadouming_work>
xD
<joecool>
oh true, the S4 looks like a decent chipset, are most of the phones using it battery munchers?
<joecool>
we had a HOX at the office and it gobbled batteries in like 3 hours
<chadouming_work>
depend mostly of who make the code
<Jiangyi>
OMAP4's good too lol
<iKillCypher>
Qualcomm is the best
<iKillCypher>
it is always updated
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<Jiangyi>
OMAP > Qualcomm, but OMAP's going to die soon :-(
<iKillCypher>
why
<joecool>
TI's pulling out of mobile, correct?
<joecool>
from wikipedia
<joecool>
On 26 September 2012, Texas Instruments announced that they would wind down their operations in smartphone and tablet oriented OMAP chips and instead focus on embedded platforms. The fate of OMAP5 therefore remains uncertain.[1] On 14 November 2012, Texas Instruments announced that they would cut 1700 jobs due to its shift from mobile to embedded platforms.
<joecool>
^^ yeah shitcanning = dead
<Jiangyi>
They will probably release OMAP5 though
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<Jiangyi>
Come on Google, take my N4 order out of the pending phase already :-(
<Jug6ernaut>
while they are at it can the make the screen like 5" maybe 5.2-3
* Jug6ernaut
would sell his note 2 in a heart beat
<Jug6ernaut>
Jiangyi 8 or 16
<Jiangyi>
Jug6ernaut: 16
<Jug6ernaut>
when did u order?
<Jiangyi>
3 days ago
<Jug6ernaut>
play says 6-7 weeks right now :|
<Jiangyi>
I just want them to tell me something other than pending :-|
<Jug6ernaut>
lol
<Jug6ernaut>
"processed"
<Jiangyi>
That would be better^
<Jug6ernaut>
"shipping this year"
<chadouming_work>
eh jiangyi, by the time you get your n4, we will have a perfectly working cm 10.1 on optimus G :P
<Jug6ernaut>
bla
<Jiangyi>
meh
<Jug6ernaut>
internation optimus g is ok, att screwed theres over like always
<Jiangyi>
chadouming_work: I already have that on my 9100G xD
<chadouming_work>
hha
<chadouming_work>
but optimus G > i9100G
<Jug6ernaut>
chadouming_work y did u get optimus g > n4?
<Jiangyi>
suure
* Jug6ernaut
can never keep up with crap code...names?
<Jug6ernaut>
can i9100g be a code name?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jug6ernaut>
derp is right
<chadouming_work>
optimus G < n4
<Jiangyi>
Jug6ernaut: The OMAP variant of the S2 :-P
<chadouming_work>
well, both have different point
<Jug6ernaut>
ah
<chadouming_work>
1st, the style is totally different
<Jug6ernaut>
i cant think of a point for the optimus g :P
<Jug6ernaut>
well att has micro-sd
<Jiangyi>
SD card slot and advertised LTE I guess
<chadouming_work>
2nd og has 32GB storage + official LTE
<chadouming_work>
it doesnt have SD
<Jug6ernaut>
lte is meh
<chadouming_work>
i like the style of the phone
<chadouming_work>
it's a bit more "square" than n4
<Jug6ernaut>
lte is awesome dont get me wrong, but if no1 knew lte existed, no1 would ever complain about hspa/+
<chadouming_work>
and it has real button
<chadouming_work>
well "real"
<chadouming_work>
Jug6ernaut, there is totally no logic behind what you just said
<Jug6ernaut>
sure there is
<chadouming_work>
guess what, if we didnt have better internet than 56K, no one would complain about it
<chadouming_work>
if there was no better CPU than single core 512Mhz, no one would complain about it
<Jug6ernaut>
chadouming_work name me one situation where lte provides a substantial better UE over hspa/+
<chadouming_work>
it has better latency
<chadouming_work>
way better upload
* Jug6ernaut
asked for a situation not stats
<chadouming_work>
and upload make the diff when trying to load page
<chadouming_work>
eh, when downloading things x
<chadouming_work>
xD
<Jug6ernaut>
what?
<Jug6ernaut>
ok
<Jug6ernaut>
lol
<Jug6ernaut>
i was like...
<chadouming_work>
upload speed make a difference when accessing web page
<Jug6ernaut>
...
<Jug6ernaut>
if it is
<Jug6ernaut>
then the website is a pos
<Jug6ernaut>
wtf could it be uploading
<Jug6ernaut>
and what kind of latency differences are we talking here?
<Jiangyi>
Jug6ernaut: It's kind of a different thing up here in Canada apparently. HSPA networks here are just bad compared to LTE.
<Jug6ernaut>
Jiangyi well thats not hspa's fault lol
<Jiangyi>
Whatever, N4 has working Canadian LTE, and it's not like I'll have a data plan anytime soon anyways lol
<Jug6ernaut>
xD
<chadouming_work>
what it have to upload to webpage ? request !
<chadouming_work>
gotta request all the page
<chadouming_work>
specially when there is more than plain text on the website
<Jug6ernaut>
que?
<Jug6ernaut>
plus how big are these websies where a 5-10Mb connection isnt suffiecent?
<chadouming_work>
eh, never said they were no suffiecent, said it will load faster
<chadouming_work>
you can't argue between taht logic
<chadouming_work>
more bandwith == faster internet
<Jug6ernaut>
i never said it wasnt faster, i said in UE it makes no difference
<chadouming_work>
if it's faster, then the 0.7 sec to load webpage become 0.2 sec
<chadouming_work>
and it fell instant instead of a little lag
<chadouming_work>
feel*
<chadouming_work>
and that look magic in front of your friend xD
<Jug6ernaut>
lol, i would love to see a physical test
<pawz>
lacks the style of the galaxy devices. sometimes cheaply made
<peterperfect>
hehe..
<peterperfect>
dude..serious?
<peterperfect>
nexus feel waaaaaaaaay more studdy than galaxy
<peterperfect>
i have both of them
<pawz>
i dunno about that rubberised finish
<pawz>
i prefer a nice smooth phone and i will put a case on it if i want
<peterperfect>
well, there are several cases for n4..including official bumber one
<chadouming>
Lol, nexus 4 is SOOOOOOOO rubberised
<pawz>
can you sell me on any other aspect of the n4 ? what makes it really cool in your opinion ? i havent really looked into it yet
<datagutt>
pawz: oh oh
<datagutt>
plastic is awesome
<datagutt>
and exynos is the best dev platform on earth!
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<datagutt>
no wonder all the devs love it
<pawz>
ic.. not completely sold yet sorry
<datagutt>
i am talking about sgs3
<codeworkx>
pawz: a powered off nexus beats a powered on galaxy
<pawz>
that's just not funny
<pawz>
probably has better battery life tho at least
<peterperfect>
pawz
<peterperfect>
serious here...a nexus is a nexus
<peterperfect>
its bleeding edge aosp
<Fissurez>
CODY
<Fissurez>
CODY
<Fissurez>
CODY
<peterperfect>
made to work
<Fissurez>
GUESS WHAT HAS ARRIVED!
<codeworkx>
nexus?
<Fissurez>
the first of the two nexus 4s i ordered
<Fissurez>
i think
<peterperfect>
pawz phisically talking, fews awesome on hand, its studdy and well built
<codeworkx>
and performs like a little god
<peterperfect>
yes, its fast as fuck
<peterperfect>
i have them both
<peterperfect>
i9300 and N4
<peterperfect>
N4 is better
<Fissurez>
no shit
<pawz>
well ok.. but there's one problem
<Thiagovfar>
peterperfect: would you sell me one?
<codeworkx>
s3: cheap plastics, bad feel, bad look, bad display, the most bad software i've ever seen, no android inside
<Fissurez>
mine has arrived!
<pawz>
i really really like my inductive stylus. i would NEVER.. EVER go back to a device, phone OR tablet without an inductive stylus like the galaxy note
<Fissurez>
but i can't use it :C
<pawz>
while wireless charging is awesome.. until they have a phone with an inductive stylus like the note... no way
<peterperfect>
i have nothing against plastic at all, but i can confirm that nexus4 feels better on hand
<pawz>
also i like a bigger phone.. the S3/N4 form factor is too small for me
<peterperfect>
pawz well, so if this is a deal braker for you, nexus wont save you
<pawz>
i like my big screen phone set int tablet mode with teeeeny tiny writing and 720dpi mode
<pawz>
well... maybe the nexus 5 will have a stylus
<pawz>
i'm not against jumping ship for something better
<peterperfect>
codeworkx app makers are starting to use 4.2 new features
<pawz>
there was a time i thought iphone was the most awesome shit ever. then it stopped being so and samsung galaxy was... now.. maybe soon.. i will change to nexus.. but i want wireless charging AND inductive stylus
<peterperfect>
hehe
<peterperfect>
buy your own phone OEM?
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<Thiagovfar>
Looks like Fissurez is busy unpacking his new n4.
<peterperfect>
true
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<Thiagovfar>
Which device is i9220? A crappy n7000?
<datagutt>
it is a mizu
<datagutt>
for sure
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<Thiagovfar>
gsmarena tells me they are the same, but the price contradicts it.
<datagutt>
in this particular case, mizu is another word for suck
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<Thiagovfar>
Hmm, will stay away from it.
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<Fissurez>
Thiagovfar nope.
<Fissurez>
i said, not until christmas
<Fissurez>
and not unless my sister's one arrives.
<peterperfect>
Fissurez why?
<Ravenheart>
bcuz its a present!
<Fissurez>
because it's a christmas present :D
<Thiagovfar>
You can give ANYTHING as a chistmas present
<Fissurez>
and i don't think it's fair if i get a nexus 10 and a nexus 4 and my sister gets nothing :D
<Fissurez>
Thiagovfar i don't have the money too.
<Fissurez>
<- still at home with family as last year of school education.
<Fissurez>
i.e. jobless
<peterperfect>
meh
<peterperfect>
grow up
<peterperfect>
xD
<Ravenheart>
i think thats his innevitable future
<Thiagovfar>
I want a n4 so bad.
<Thiagovfar>
Ravenheart: I can think in several ways to avoid that future.
<Ravenheart>
death is the only one i can think of
<Thiagovfar>
Normally, you would have to kill. Several ways to do it.
<Fissurez>
i'm fine
<Fissurez>
either way
<Fissurez>
i have 1/2 nexus 4s here.
<Fissurez>
and i ordered them when they were 4-5weeks
<Fissurez>
and no nexus 10s.
<Fissurez>
which i ordered more than 3 weeks ago
<Fissurez>
when they were 2-3 weeks -.-
<Thiagovfar>
I wonder what happens if this guy dies. The cops are gonna come after me. Fuck.
<Fissurez>
wut
* Thiagovfar
hopes Fissurez has a long, joyful life.
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<ehsan_>
hello
<ehsan_>
can you please help me find the latest cm10 reliable for samsung s2