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<Mkvarner>
Well, thanks
<Jiangyi>
Wait whut
<Jiangyi>
I thought no one released 10.1 for S3 yet
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: idioot, cody did today :P
<Jiangyi>
Orly?
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<Jiangyi>
lol I love how he called it unofficial builds :-P
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<KoTaS>
Need help with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0
<KoTaS>
I have OTG Cable with Charging made for Samsung
<KoTaS>
USB Host works perfect, but Charging wont work, is there are special kernel mod required?
<KoTaS>
These Devices are supported by the OTG Cable..... SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB :P7500,P7510,P7300,P7310,P6800, P6200 ,P6210,P5100,P5110,P3100,P3110,P3108,P739
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<Entropy512>
<KoTaS> USB Host works perfect, but Charging wont work, is there are special kernel mod required? - there was on galaxys2, dunno if the Tab2 kernel has that capability
<Entropy512>
<Thracky> If I'm working on a custom repo added in local manifest, how the fuck do I push changes to it in git? :P - did you add it as "private"?
<Entropy512>
I think it is something like git push private localbranch:jellybean, has been a while
<Entropy512>
ideally create the branch with "repo start"
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<Jiangyi>
Wait, you can charge with an USB OTG cable? o.o
<KoTaS>
is there a way to edit manually kernel? adjust few lines so OTG cable be used as USB Host and at same time charges the tab?
<KoTaS>
yes i have cable that does this, but for some reazon wont work with my tab 2 7.0
<KoTaS>
connect external HDD Fat32 500GB, with external power and it workd perfect, but then i try to plug in OEM Charger nothing happens, wont charge the tab
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<frankdrey>
did it ever work with anything?
<KoTaS>
OTG Cable is working perfect, then i use as usb host it wont charge
<frankdrey>
:|
<frankdrey>
then it's bullshit
<KoTaS>
and thi s cable compatible with SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB :P7500,P7510,P7300,P7310,P6800, P6200 ,P6210,P5100,P5110,P3100,P3110,P3108,P739
<frankdrey>
it can't charge and do usb host
<Entropy512>
<Jiangyi> Wait, you can charge with an USB OTG cable? o.o - it's called an Accessory Charger Adapter cable
<Entropy512>
although for Tab2 it's a special 30-pin one
<frankdrey>
what Entropy512
<frankdrey>
said
<Entropy512>
does it work on stock?
<KoTaS>
no
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<frankdrey>
then why are you bothering us?
<Entropy512>
CM has ACA support for galaxys2
<frankdrey>
:P
<Entropy512>
someone who knew what they were doing and had a cable had to add it
<KoTaS>
Installed CM9 now
<Entropy512>
I might be able to figure out out but I have neither a device nor such a cable
<Entropy512>
although if I can find such a cable on amazon
<Jiangyi>
Ah alright.
<Entropy512>
might get one to try on Note 10.1
<KoTaS>
cable inside have microchip
<Entropy512>
but that wouldn't help with Tab 2, totally different USB setup
<KoTaS>
so is not some shit with just resistor
* frankdrey
is trying to ressurect a toshiba tg01
<Entropy512>
odd
<Entropy512>
a standard ACA is just a particular value on the ID pin
<KoTaS>
my device is P3110, and this cable compatible with it
<KoTaS>
and work as a host, used for external HDD 500GB
<KoTaS>
it works
<Entropy512>
wait, you just said it didn't work on stock
<Entropy512>
e.g. it doesn't work
<KoTaS>
on stock, and on CM9, CM10 works
<Entropy512>
oh you mean it works fine as just a host
<KoTaS>
here is chematicks for home made cabels using resistor
<Entropy512>
yeah but yours has a chip... Although it looks like it might be a USB hub
<frankdrey>
h-o-l-y c-r-a-p
<Entropy512>
maybe the external power is just for powering external devices and not charging in that cable
* frankdrey
bookmarks
<frankdrey>
thanks for the link KoTaS
<Entropy512>
frankdrey: that schematic is on XDA somewhere
<Entropy512>
I've just never bothered to build any of the cables
<Entropy512>
except modding various chargers so they'll charge Samsung tabs
<KoTaS>
the one extra female plug for charging the actual tablet
<KoTaS>
and other two are used for host purposes
<frankdrey>
I might build meself a cable
<frankdrey>
I have an almost broken usb cable I can salvage for this...
<KoTaS>
Two ports with USB sign: Support USB flash disk, card reader, mouse, USB hard disk Note: The hard disk must have external power, the disk format must be FAT32, can not read NTFS The another USB port can connect the original charger to charge the tablet Compatible with: SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB :P7500,P7510,P7300,P7310,P6800, P6200 ,P6210,P5100,P5110,P3100,P3110,P3108,P739
<frankdrey>
and I could pull a female plug from my hub
<frankdrey>
:O
<frankdrey>
hmmm where can I find some resistors? :|
<KoTaS>
radio shark
<frankdrey>
let's see if I have any junk devices I can rip resistors out of xD
<frankdrey>
KoTaS, I'm broke :P
<frankdrey>
oh crap...
<frankdrey>
I just realized that I'd need a docking connector xD
<frankdrey>
and that I probably shouldn't cut up my current one :p
<KoTaS>
no, dont touch your curent charger cable
<frankdrey>
I wonder how careful I can solder...
<frankdrey>
(make a dock connector xD0
<KoTaS>
but i need some info on how to edit karnel so i can look for OTG option and enable the device to let me charge at same time
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<iKillCypher>
Hello
<frankdrey>
KoTaS, I can almost promise you it's not as simple as "enabling" it
<frankdrey>
and if you want to "edit" a kernel, give up already :P
<frankdrey>
One does not simply "edit" a kernel
<KoTaS>
but i am almost posotive, this is software limited, not hardware, because look
<iKillCypher>
any devs here ? or anyone know how to format internal sd card
<KoTaS>
if i buy docking station they let me charge device at same time and use USB HOST
<iKillCypher>
but it does not corrupt the phone so Im still able to flash android
<iKillCypher>
roms
<iKillCypher>
samsung did it last time for me
<frankdrey>
iKillCypher, go to clockworkmod > mounts and storage > format sdcard
<frankdrey>
KoTaS, does the docking station change your software?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKillCypher>
totally wipes ?
<iKillCypher>
I want a full wipe but the phone still works
<KoTaS>
no, but somehow i enables for device to see that the docking station is pluged
<frankdrey>
iKillCypher, it should wipe just internal storage
<KoTaS>
for example: i have motorola electrify... and there is dock station called webtops i believe
<frankdrey>
KoTaS, have you considered that maybe your otg cable isn't wired like the docking station?
<frankdrey>
and is there even a docking station for gtab2?
<KoTaS>
enables to use your phone as desctop computer
<frankdrey>
Do you have the motorola electrify? No
<KoTaS>
I do have
<KoTaS>
and using for almost 2 years
<iKillCypher>
<frankdrey> iKillCypher, it should wipe just internal storage
<iKillCypher>
then everything would be gone then how do I flash a rom ?
<frankdrey>
iKillCypher, it won't wipe system or data...
<Entropy512>
KoTaS: no, it's not simple. You have to detect an ACA, set up the PMIC not to enable the boost converter but instead enable the charger, etc
<iKillCypher>
isnt it cap at 650mA ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKillCypher>
the voltage and USB 450mA
<Entropy512>
he wants to charge his tab and run devices from an external power supply
<Entropy512>
but his tab doesn't have support for that in the kernel at a minimum
<KoTaS>
i undesrtand, is hard to invent this. but the idea is very simple
<Entropy512>
and the PMIC hardware might not support operating like that
<iKillCypher>
lol that
<Entropy512>
and since it's TOTALLY different hardware from galaxys2
<Entropy512>
that patch will be of minimal to no use
<Entropy512>
ok TV then bed
<iKillCypher>
Entropy512 :P so how just wipe sdcard and then use odin to flash ?
<Entropy512>
that should work
<iKillCypher>
since wiping will destroy cwm ?
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<frankdrey>
KoTaS, the idea of a flying car is VERY simple :)
<KoTaS>
so you telling me, there is no patch? to make tab p3110 work as host w/ charge?
<frankdrey>
KoTaS, the idea of a time machine is very simple :)
<iKillCypher>
Entropy512, samsung has refused to look into the audio bug
<iKillCypher>
fcukers !!
<Entropy512>
they don't care because their framework works around it
<Entropy512>
and they don't care about AOSP
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<iKillCypher>
yeah I depend on you and paulk
<frankdrey>
iKillCypher, wipe will not destroy anything but internal storage dammit!
<iKillCypher>
I know that
<iKillCypher>
will cwm be wipe too ?
<iKillCypher>
.android_secure
<iKillCypher>
cause samsung did it differently last time for me
<frankdrey>
cwm is not related in any way to internal storage
<iKillCypher>
Im not a noob you know
<frankdrey>
.......
<iKillCypher>
cwm is stored in internal sdcard
<frankdrey>
O___o
<Jiangyi>
.....................
<frankdrey>
dafuq
<Jiangyi>
CWM is either on the recovery partition or part of the kernel, depending on your device.
<iKillCypher>
oh :D
<iKillCypher>
lol
<Jiangyi>
Therefore, not on the internal storage....
<iKillCypher>
anyway let me backup then
<iKillCypher>
sorry mate
<frankdrey>
iKillCypher, wiping sdcard will wipe internal storage, not system, not data, not recovery
<iKillCypher>
dudes at miui told me before
<iKillCypher>
I wanna wipe system
<frankdrey>
then wipe it in cwm too
<iKillCypher>
I wanna wipe the whole sdcard
<iKillCypher>
and reflash like a new phone
<frankdrey>
you wanna wipe the whole emmc?
<frankdrey>
stock or no.
<iKillCypher>
cm10 vsync patched
<iKillCypher>
dorimal kernel
<frankdrey>
no clue what dafuq that is but wipe sdcard, data, cache, and system in cwm
<frankdrey>
then flash the rom with cwm
<iKillCypher>
ok brb
<frankdrey>
lolz
<frankdrey>
my band leader: Hi! I was struggling switching my phone so I just got to your message lol. We're not doing anything Sunday though
<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, 24 seconds in...shall i continue?
<Jiangyi>
frankdrey: Yes. Finish it! O_O
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<KoTaS>
battery inside have 2 black, 1 blue, 2 red wires
<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, ok :P
<KoTaS>
3.7v battery
<frankdrey>
KoTaS, knowing samsung, all but one blue and one black are wires that explode the tablet
<frankdrey>
self-destruct
<frankdrey>
knowing samsung...with their "Downlaod Mode"
<KoTaS>
:)
<frankdrey>
(my tablet literally says that in download mode xD
<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, it's too jittery for me to believe it :(
<KoTaS>
need to check with volt meter , and see what wires charge battery when is pluget in in charge mode
<Jiangyi>
I'll try to find a better quality one tomorrow
<Jiangyi>
Sleepytime now :-P
<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, i can see it skip on some "tricks" :(
<frankdrey>
ok good night :D
<Jiangyi>
Night^^]
<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, waiiiiit
<frankdrey>
I SEEE IT D:
<frankdrey>
he's pulling stuff out if you watch VERY carefully xD
<frankdrey>
oh my god it's so obvious now :3
<frankdrey>
watch at 1:52 and watch the cup
<frankdrey>
I don't even want to fix my sound :P
<frankdrey>
the face tells me a lot xD
<frankdrey>
you can see him switch the cup if youre watching for it at the end :D
<Jiangyi>
orly?
* Jiangyi
will watch it again carefully tomorrow morning
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<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, yep, watch his hands very carefully
<frankdrey>
now go to sleep little boy
<frankdrey>
either way, that guy is awesome :P
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<frankdrey>
did github just go down?
<iKillCypher>
damn
<iKillCypher>
I feel like getting s3
<iKillCypher>
but I have an s2 here
<iKillCypher>
lol
<frankdrey>
iKillCypher, get nexus 4
<frankdrey>
or galaxy nexus
<frankdrey>
or G1
<frankdrey>
and work on cm9 with me for G1
<frankdrey>
I got my G1 for $10 :D
<codeworkx>
iKillCypher: s3 = most bad decision you can do
<frankdrey>
listen to dah man
<frankdrey>
y u no sleed cody
<frankdrey>
*sleep
<codeworkx>
i slept
<frankdrey>
oh :D
<codeworkx>
7 am here
<frankdrey>
:o
<frankdrey>
hmmm, thank you for reminding me to set up my <@blah> and <+blah> crap in hexchat :D
<frankdrey>
testing
<frankdrey>
@echo testing
<bbqbot>
frankdrey: Command does not exist!
<frankdrey>
:D
<iKillCypher>
Hello code
<iKillCypher>
any news about hwc issue ?
<frankdrey>
so apparently she got a /new/ phone
<iKillCypher>
or galloc
<frankdrey>
she said transferring her stuff was complicated enough and she'd rather be studying for pharmacology :D
<frankdrey>
she should ditch medical stuff and become a nerd
<frankdrey>
s/nerd/programmer/
* iKillCypher
wish samsung release their shitty 4.1.2 for I9100 cause it is taking too much time
<frankdrey>
they're probably not gonna
<iKillCypher>
a leak was out you know
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<codeworkx>
iKillCypher: 4.1.2 will not help
<iKillCypher>
yes I know that
<codeworkx>
4.2 changed to much. everything from 4.1 is incompatible
<frankdrey>
iKillCypher, yep. but they're not gonna finish it :D
<frankdrey>
i bet :D
<iKillCypher>
well code atleast you guys got it booted
<iKillCypher>
I hear from Entropy512 alot is broken
<frankdrey>
dey be postin' stuff on G+
<frankdrey>
if you're interested
<frankdrey>
codeworkx, them ink cartridges...
<iKillCypher>
and alot of major hack have been there to which affects performance
<iKillCypher>
i love the breakthrough about butter :P on I9100 cause I have never experience it before
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<Entropy512>
yeah stupid mali blobs keep derping us up
<iKillCypher>
well what did paulk did
<iKillCypher>
in his project ?
<iKillCypher>
cause isnt their project fully open source or something
<iKillCypher>
replicant android
<Entropy512>
except for graphics
<iKillCypher>
hwc ?
<bbqbot>
derp
<iKillCypher>
and is there any other way without using stupid mali blobs to overcome this issue?
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<frankdrey>
hmmm
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* frankdrey
really hopes restoring this iphone will fix this stupid white screen :|
* frankdrey
is such a lady's man
<frankdrey>
i'm fixing my girl * lot's of space so you don't think otherwise * friend's iphone
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<frankdrey>
black screen during restore...
<frankdrey>
wonder what that means :P
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<chadouming_home>
that mean you might get a surprise once fixed :P
<frankdrey>
lolno
<frankdrey>
she's 13 :P
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<frankdrey>
uuuuuuuuuuurggggggggh
<chadouming_home>
well, if you are 15 dont expect to bang 26 years old chick
<frankdrey>
white scren :P
<frankdrey>
lol
* chadouming_home
was about to say something racist.
<chadouming_home>
(well, it's better than a black screen)
<frankdrey>
XD
<frankdrey>
maannnn
<frankdrey>
the motherboard and screen connection looks fine
<frankdrey>
oh yeah, she dropped it
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<nebkat>
Jiangyi: I fixed the wallpaper not getting reset when changed
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<tapper_>
hi all. i am just trying out this web chat with my screen reader jaws 13 with firefox so bair with me lol
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<tapper_>
I just want to say thanks to all the cm team for all your hard work. I am blind and started off on cm7 on a htc dizire using talkback as a screenreader. it was not grate but i got by! then i got a upgrade to the gs2 and found out that tuchwiz fucks with screenreaders so i cud not use it. To say i was pist off is a under statement! lol so i hit google and got the files to flash my gs2 to cm9 and it did the trick now i can
<tapper_>
now i am on cm10 and it's still going fine
<iKillCypher>
o.O
<iKillCypher>
touchwiz sucks
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<addi>
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<Thiagovfar>
What is this sorcery?
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<fritto-misto>
will I be able to install CM10 in dual-mode under SiyahKernel v4.1.5? (I now own SGS2 with stock rom 4.0.4, and plan to root it using Siyah. but I'm not sure if I this kerenel's version is suitable for CM10 in dual-mode)
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<Thracky>
nebkat: I'm not in seattle :P
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<nebkat>
Thracky: where are you?
<Thracky>
canada
<nebkat>
your ip is in Seattle :P
<Thracky>
I know :P
<Thracky>
it's my bnc
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<Thracky>
:P
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<fritto-misto>
can someone explain how to root an SGS2 (i9100T) with stock rom 4.0.4 using SiyahKernel?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<addi>
fritto-misto, simply flashing the kernel will root your device
<addi>
though you'll have to check if the T model of I9100 is supported by the kernel (it should be, since the T model only has different radios)
<fritto-misto>
so: odin + download mode, pda: Siyahkernel... and flash it?
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<Guest46459>
hi everyone
<ockerblume>
hi there
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<addi>
<addi>
fritto-misto, yes
<addi>
again, make sure it's supported
<fritto-misto>
ok
<fritto-misto>
and do you know by any chance if I should use SiyahKernel v4.1.5 or v5.0.1? I'm using stock rom 4.0.4, and read that SiyahKernel v4.1.5 suits ICS, while v5.0.1 suits JB. but if I flash v4.1.5, will I be able to install cm10 in dual-boot? because it's based on JB
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<EgoElf>
flash the one for your current rom
<EgoElf>
if you have stock ics, tehn use 4.1.5
<EgoElf>
when you flash cm, it'll overwrite everything anyway
<fritto-misto>
I'm not going to flash the cm. I'm going to install it via recovery mode, so it will operate in dual-boot. I was under the impression that in dual boot both roms use the same kernel
<Jiangyi>
lol
<Jiangyi>
Samsung China employee: "China's 4.1 is not stable, going to go test France's 4.1"
<Jiangyi>
Seems legit. :-P
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<EgoElf>
installing cm in recovery will still overwrite everything on the phone
<EgoElf>
where do you see this concept of dual-booting?
<addi>
EgoElf, there's dualboot mods for the SGS3, so I'm guessing SGS2 has them as well
<addi>
I'm sure when installed as the second ROM it won't wipe the data on the other ROM :P
<EgoElf>
your assumption that what exists for the sgs3 also exists for the sgs2 is incredibly faulty
<EgoElf>
the only things the phones share are the first part of their name
<addi>
just a guess, just assuming fritto-misto knows that dual booting is possible
<Ntemis>
codeworkx: we have added safeboot settings in drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c (omap4430) but still users report issues booting with Silicon performance enabled(1.2Ghz)
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: most of the "improvements" require modified gfx drivers
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: so 100% useless in real world :-D
<Fissurez>
so the article is incorrect?
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<codeworkx>
Fissurez: no
<addi>
Fissurez, Y U NO C
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: but the stuff which makes it really faster can't be included
<Fissurez>
lol
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: just the stuff which does minor improvements
<Fissurez>
Gfx drivers are closed source mostly then?
<bbqbot>
derp
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: 100%
<Fissurez>
lol
<Fissurez>
so how did they do that then?
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<codeworkx>
maybe linaro has access?
<Fissurez>
fair enough
<codeworkx>
they're not some random guys like we
<Ntemis>
Firefox crashed on me
<Fissurez>
it sounds useless then
<Ntemis>
:(
<Fissurez>
why did they do it?
<addi>
Ntemis, for PC, use IE.
* addi
hides
<Ntemis>
lol
<Ntemis>
is that a pie?
<Fissurez>
IE isn't anywhere near as bad as it used to be
<Fissurez>
and chrome is getting worse.
<codeworkx>
IE is teh hell
<addi>
Chrome work fine for me, default IE in Windows 8 work like old slow one
<Ntemis>
yeap
<Ntemis>
No IE for me
<addi>
not that slow, yeah, but still hellish and devilish
<codeworkx>
me use slowfox on pc and android
<addi>
and suckish
<Ntemis>
but thanks anw
<codeworkx>
just because of the nice addons
<codeworkx>
googles extension system sucks
<addi>
me use Chrome just because of integrated search and address bar :P
<Fissurez>
i use chrome too
<Fissurez>
i like the look of it XD
<chadouming_home>
addi, i think that even internet explorer does that now
<addi>
only add-on installed is Chrome to Phone, which I haven't even used in so many months :P
<Ntemis>
before i get you all guys bored to hell, codeworkx any thoughts about getting those machines that hate 1.2ghz boot safely? :)
<codeworkx>
dunno
<Fissurez>
addi i used chrome to phone alot
<Ntemis>
oh ok thanks then
<addi>
chadouming, ah, yes, it does. nice
* Jiangyi
uses Firefox
<Thracky>
chrome to phone is pointless now with chrome android
<Jiangyi>
Chrome on Android is nice, but it's a major battery sucker
<Ntemis>
no is not
<Thracky>
shared bookmarks, tab sharing...
<addi>
Thracky, not really, sending links is easy with Chrome to Phone
<addi>
tab sharing is a different story
<Thracky>
you don't have to send it :P
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<addi>
I do, when I find an app or something I want to download on phone. starts downloading instantly
<addi>
or it did, when I used it last :P
<addi>
Jiangyi, Chrome seems to suck battery on all non-Nexus devices, specially with tilt scroll enabled
<Jiangyi>
:-|
<addi>
shows how well the developers at Google can optimize apps
<addi>
Maps is another battery sucker
<Jiangyi>
Yep
<addi>
then we expect third-party apps to not suck battery :P
<Jiangyi>
Dem random wakelocks :-P
<addi>
but wait, Maps and Chrome are available on Play Store, so can we call them third-party and dismiss the issues? >.>
<codeworkx>
WHERE IS MY NEXUS?
<bbqbot>
derp
<addi>
codeworkx, not with me
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<Thracky>
i has it
* addi
fondles Thracky to punish him
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<Thracky>
ew
<codeworkx>
addi: u no nexus?
<Thracky>
only my wife may fondle me
<addi>
i be Galaxy Nexus
<Fissurez>
wut
<Fissurez>
codeworkx I HAVE 1 :D
<Jiangyi>
Google, y u still leave my order as pending!?!?!?
<clibot>
derp
<Fissurez>
but not using it XD
<Jiangyi>
;_;
<codeworkx>
plan for future: stay on nexus line, hack on sony phones, ignore korean companies
<addi>
good plan
<Fissurez>
Jiangyi - my nexus is still pending on google wallet XD
<Jiangyi>
Fissurez: We all be stuck then T_T
<addi>
those Galaxy S3 and Note 2 are so bloated in feel, Gnex feels much more smooth despite ooold hardware
<codeworkx>
mv /korea/samsung /dev/null
<Fissurez>
Jiangyi nah, it arrived yesterday
<addi>
project butter majorly messed up eh?
<Jiangyi>
._. wth?
<Fissurez>
IKR?
<Fissurez>
Jiangyi check google wallety
<Fissurez>
when did google commerce receive your order?
<addi>
Note 2 gives no feeling of being a smooth device. fast, but no smooth
<Thracky>
and that's butter's fault? :P
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jiangyi>
Dec 3 Google Canada Corp. received your order.
<Jiangyi>
<Jiangyi>
Dec 3 You placed an order with Google Canada Corp. on Dec 3. Google Wallet sent a copy of this receipt to *censored*@gmail.com
<Thracky>
pff everyone knows your email
<Thracky>
just go on gerrit :P
<Jiangyi>
lol fair enough
<Fissurez>
Jiangyi really?
<Jiangyi>
Fissurez: Yep, stuck there :-|
<Fissurez>
4 Dec
<Fissurez>
Google Commerce Ltd received your order.
<Fissurez>
4 Dec
<Fissurez>
You placed an order with Google Commerce Ltd on 4 Dec. Google Wallet sent a copy of this receipt to
<Fissurez>
<Fissurez>
oops
<addi>
Thracky, butter's, or Samsung's bloat, but the problem is there :P
<Thracky>
yeah but you take away samsung bloat and it's not there.
<Thracky>
therefore, #blamesamsung.
<codeworkx>
oh, me can buy additional nexus 4 now
<Fissurez>
codeworkx orly?
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<Fissurez>
they're sold out
<codeworkx>
nope
<addi>
yeah, I meant Samsung messed up the butter implementation
<Fissurez>
:O
<codeworkx>
16gb 6-7weeks
<Fissurez>
lol
<addi>
not the butter's fault on its own :P
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: can still order
<Fissurez>
\o/
<addi>
Thracky, I hear even CM ain't so smooth on those two, so more than just the bloat I guess
<Thracky>
that's due to implementation issues with porting CM
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: Sold out here in 2 1/2 hours lol
<Thracky>
and samsung being douchey and not sharing as usual.
<Jiangyi>
I'm also in the damn 7-8 week bracket Q_Q
<addi>
hmm, so best to stay away from these devices if you love CM? ^^
<codeworkx>
Thracky: cooperate or getting terminated
<Thracky>
well, the north american S3's are not exynos
<Fissurez>
yup
<addi>
codeworkx, terminated from where? XDA or the market totally? :P
<Thracky>
but other than that, yeah stay away :P
<Fissurez>
they're S4 noobs.
<codeworkx>
exynos has choosen to get terminated
<Fissurez>
codeworkx WATABOUT NEXUS 10 :C
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: i heard it has micro lags
<Fissurez>
wat micro lag?
<addi>
pretty sure Samsung will not mind if the development community boycotts, still millions of people out to buy after seeing ad
<codeworkx>
Fissurez: the gui
<Fissurez>
oh, like moments of lag?
<Thracky>
addi: yup. that's why they don't care.
<Jiangyi>
Ehh every Android device has some lag :-P
<Fissurez>
yah
<addi>
Thracky, and that's why I find it funny when devs or users at XDA make posts telling Samsung that "we will go away and you will suffer". truth is, they won't :P
<codeworkx>
addi: do you as tech-freak still recommend your friends to buy samsung phones?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Thracky>
addi: I did. I have an Optimus G now :P
<Fissurez>
Thracky WHY
<Thracky>
with cm 10.1
<Fissurez>
y not nexus 4
<addi>
Android's not as well optimized, so no matter what hardware you throw at it, lag gonna be there
<Thracky>
Fissurez: insurance exchange
<Thracky>
n4 not an option
<Fissurez>
ohok
<Thracky>
and LTE
<Fissurez>
fair point
<Thracky>
Optimus G is almost identical
<Thracky>
we're doing a straight port of n4 CM10.1 :P
<addi>
codeworkx, I recommend to get Samsung devices, yeah, but no one has ever asked about a high-end one like Note 2 or S3 xD
<Thracky>
and it mostly works
<Fissurez>
addi well, especially if you have a higher display reso than most desktop screens XD
<Thracky>
but a bunch of issues still.
<addi>
Samsung's pricing is just awesome here in India, others suck
<Fissurez>
orly?
<addi>
Galaxy S2 was cheaper than Sensation :)
<codeworkx>
addi: let's assume 100.000 xda users move away and stop recommending samsung devices to friends. that can be 300.000 lost customers
<Fissurez>
HOORAY
<Thracky>
most xda users will just sit there and complain about lack of devs or complain to 1 dev who is still around :P
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: I have to cause my friends' choices are Samsung or Apple :-|
<codeworkx>
addi: and telling something bad about a manufacturer goes like a fire
<addi>
codeworkx, that's an extreme situation, 100.000 XDA users won't move away cos they still get excited with "ooooh, quad-core!"
<frankdrey>
ohi
<Fissurez>
true
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<addi>
these XDA users are mostly idiots who have no care about Exynos problems etc
<Thracky>
Jiangyi: tell them they're stupid
<Fissurez>
OOH EXYNOS QUAD 5
<codeworkx>
addi: all teh cm users on s2/s3?
<Fissurez>
codeworkx i sold my s2 :D
<Jiangyi>
Thracky: +1
<Fissurez>
well, O2 has lost it.
<Fissurez>
proabbly
<Jiangyi>
I do, but they no listen :-P
<Thracky>
Jiangyi or have them call me and I'll tell them.
<codeworkx>
hope apple buys samsung
<Fissurez>
lol
<addi>
codeworkx, how many CM users do you think will say "we couldn't get proper CM due to Exynos, so don't get Samsung!"? Not many imo
<codeworkx>
then we made 1 problem out of two problems
<codeworkx>
at least a step forward
<Thracky>
apple could just buy anyone right now
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<Fissurez>
addi i'd say "don't get samsung, their devices are crap"
<Thracky>
other than anti trust shit :P
<addi>
specially if those friends are the kind who who will never install custom ROMs
<Thracky>
they have the cash
<frankdrey>
I haven't fixed my friend's iShit yet :|
<addi>
Fissurez, the thing is, they aren't crap
<codeworkx>
addi: lemme drop 4.2.1 and you'll see
<frankdrey>
still white screen
<Fissurez>
Thracky and people saying "no gtfo"
<Fissurez>
addi OPINION TAKES PRIORITY OVER REAL STATS
<addi>
codeworkx, well, good luck, I'll pray people do boycott ^^
<codeworkx>
addi: they're starting a shitstorm against samsung again
<codeworkx>
addi: samsung starts to act like a pussy
<Thracky>
hardest thing about this whole trying to make cm work on the optimus is I don't really know wtf I'm doing for the most part :D
<Fissurez>
wut
<Fissurez>
i don't get it frankdrey
<frankdrey>
Fissurez, LOOK AT TAH PIC
<Fissurez>
I DID
<frankdrey>
carefully
<Fissurez>
WATABOUTIT
<frankdrey>
read it
<frankdrey>
check spelling
<Thracky>
DOWNLAOD
<frankdrey>
:D
<Fissurez>
ODIN MODE?
<frankdrey>
downlaod count
<addi>
Thracky, LG's transparent multitasking is useful or mostly gimmicky?
<Fissurez>
DIWNLAOD ?!
<addi>
frankdrey, download*
<Fissurez>
WAT IS THIS DEMON MAGIC
<frankdrey>
<Thracky> hardest thing about this whole trying to make cm work on the optimus is I don't really know wtf I'm doing for the most part :D <- welcome to the club :D
<frankdrey>
addi, ._.
<Thracky>
addi: it's not what you think, it's only when using THEIR video app not even youtube.
<frankdrey>
that's my point
<Thracky>
addi: so pretty much pointless.
<addi>
Thracky, ah, so extremely useless :P
<frankdrey>
Samsung spelled it "downlaod count" in my download mode
<addi>
xD
<addi>
Korean English
<Fissurez>
i got download cunt. :C
<Fissurez>
i don't think they like me :C
<addi>
I remember using Samsung's PC Suite for a feature phone (C100), in 2003. horrible English
<frankdrey>
XD
<addi>
and apparently, they still haven't learned to make good software
<Jiangyi>
frankdrey: My old cappy used to say "personalizatiob count" in one of the service menus :-P
<addi>
9 years down the line
<addi>
I frankly never saw such a mistake in any Android device I've owned o_0
<addi>
okay, so 5113 is American variant, like Captivate?
<Jiangyi>
I've seen way too much bad Chinese translations for a lifetime, which is why I do it myself now xD
<addi>
if yes, must be the Americans responsible for the mishtakes
<Jiangyi>
addi: It's the wifi variant that has an IR blaster
<addi>
mmhmm
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<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: Too late, gave it to wifi :-P
<codeworkx>
fu
<mongi>
was wondearing, is this helpfull in someway to cm10.1 development?
<Jiangyi>
Your fault for not knowing what it is lol
<codeworkx>
mongi: no
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<mongi>
codeworkx: well, thanks anyway man... and thanks for the work too
* frankdrey
wants a new PC
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<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: Both P3100 and P5100 JB sources are borked?
<codeworkx>
dunno
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<Jiangyi>
Just noticed the P3100 sources, didn't see it last time
<codeworkx>
i dont use them
<codeworkx>
waiting for a p5100 rom
<codeworkx>
to get ril blobs
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<Jiangyi>
Wait, I thought they already rolled out 4.1 for p5100 o_O
<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, nope
<Jiangyi>
daflip?
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<frankdrey>
waiiiiiiiiit
<Jiangyi>
So Samsung's putting up sources for non-released versions......?
<frankdrey>
they did :)
<Jiangyi>
Ah alright
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<Jiangyi>
Oh I see
<Jiangyi>
Only an OTA update :-P
<codeworkx>
Jiangyj: samsung? those slow guys?
<mongi>
hey, one more thing. i used to have this sound recorder on cm7 http://i.imgur.com/ce7dPl.png now on cm9/cm10 i don't have it. why? =/
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: OTA updates are no good for grabbing blobs?
<bbqbot>
derp
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<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: samsung is only having 5 devs. they have to care about 1000 messed up variants.
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<Jiangyi>
lol true say :-P
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<Jiangyi>
Bunch of 9100G users pressuring that Sammy employee into letting out a leak lol
<codeworkx>
why? we've 4.2.1 xD
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<addi>
but people want the TouchWiz!
<addi>
they want the bloat to make up for their sad lives :P
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<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: Chinese users are the most bizarre users you'll ever meet :-|
<codeworkx>
omg
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<Jiangyi>
Most of them are still on stock lol
<Jiangyi>
Half of those people still rocking 2.3 ._.
<Jiangyi>
They still think stock gives the best stability and crap :-|
<frankdrey>
:|
<Jiangyi>
Frankly, I gave up trying to help them see the light lol
<frankdrey>
frankly :D :D
<frankdrey>
FRANKLY
<Baskey>
NO PUN INTENDED
<Jiangyi>
They also hate google services :-|
<Jiangyi>
Yeah, wasn't meant to be a pun lol
<frankdrey>
I don't care
<Jiangyi>
addi: Too true :-P
<frankdrey>
It's punny
<addi>
well, I will say that AOSP is extremely feature-less, but if people are loving all the bloat on TouchWiz etc devices, then there's something wrong :P
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<sud3n>
afaik you can install touchwiz as standalone launcher
<addi>
sud3n, it is not about the launcher
<Jiangyi>
Honestly, if you think XDA is bad in terms of noobs, then Chinese forums are a spawn of hell :-P
<addi>
it is about the features Samsung adds, specially things these days like multi-window multitasking, etc
<Jiangyi>
Some idiottes thought BLN was a bug -_-
* frankdrey
adds "educate all the noobs" to his bucket list
<addi>
sud3n, most are gimmicky features, yes, but the majority of the smartphone users (who'd be better off with an iPhone) get attracted by those, AOSP has nothing except a good UI and faster updates (on Nexus devices)
<frankdrey>
oh Jiangyi did you rewatch your video :P
<Jiangyi>
Right, almost forgot
<frankdrey>
one of my female friends told me she REALLY wants the galaxy s3
<frankdrey>
she has an iphone 3gs right now
<sud3n>
addi, imo most of these features useless in case you're proud experienced user/
<frankdrey>
whats funny is that the guy she likes recently got the s3
<frankdrey>
and pretty much flaunts it in her face xD
<addi>
sud3n, imo too, but we are but a very small percentage of users that understand that most of those features aren't needed
<addi>
also, Nexus devices have NO attraction except the fact you get faster and longer cycle of updates, and stock Android interface
<frankdrey>
addi, they also actually work :P
<addi>
frankdrey, in the beginning, they all work, Nexus or non-Nexus :P
<frankdrey>
ehhh
<addi>
it's after you install 50 or so apps that things go downhill xD
<frankdrey>
yep :P
<frankdrey>
but Nexus's are usually better at handling it
<addi>
then there's Google's extremely fail marketing
<frankdrey>
since they don't have crap to start with
<addi>
yeah, much better
<frankdrey>
Google doesn't want marketing
<frankdrey>
Google could care less about selling Nexuses
<frankdrey>
:P
<addi>
then there's stuff missing in Nexus devices - no Notepad app out of the box, no timer in the camera or any other attractive features, etc
<frankdrey>
how Google works is:
<addi>
which makes me NOT suggest them to anyone except my geeky friends
<sud3n>
lol
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<frankdrey>
We made something. We put it out there.
<Jiangyi>
I suggested N4 cuz it was cheap lol
<addi>
Google's aim is to not add it all, instead of leave it all to third-party apps and manufacturers
<addi>
-of
<Jiangyi>
But yeah, cam is quite lacking on AOSP
<frankdrey>
Google doesn't try to do business as much. They simply make shit. They have enough money from ads
<addi>
which makes the argument that "Nexus devices are the best" very moot
<frankdrey>
addi, ehhh it's not hard to install some apps
<addi>
frankdrey, tell that to the average user
<addi>
and it's a fail if you have to install apps for basic stuff
<frankdrey>
eh
<frankdrey>
then I'll tell them to get the iFail
<addi>
exactly
<sud3n>
i'm so tired of all that "whining" about shining features users demanding here and there. btw..just had an two weeks nightmare to migrate all out corporate i9100/i9300 from shitty local adopted stock to custom built cm9/10
<addi>
you just said it yourself, Nexus devices = fail for the iFail-type users
<sud3n>
out=out*
<frankdrey>
I really want a galaxy nexus :|
<addi>
and iFail type users are the majority, and Apple focused on them and now they make so much money, except when people can't afford their devices, in which case they turn to an Android
<codeworkx>
addi: whats wrong with nexus cam?
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<addi>
codeworkx, there's no timer, I can't take self photos with gf
<addi>
:P
<codeworkx>
use proper cam
<codeworkx>
no smartphone xD
<Jiangyi>
Oh yeah, speaking of cams
<addi>
yeah, good answer, talked like a true fanboy xD
<codeworkx>
install app
<addi>
I did, it takes poorer quality photos than the stock app
<frankdrey>
addi, ANDROID IS GUD SHUT UP
<Jiangyi>
codeworkx: Have you noticed that the field of view on the final image is larger than the cam preview? :-P
<addi>
now?
<addi>
frankdrey, Android has many problems, you should be a fanboy less
<addi>
never said it is "bad"
<codeworkx>
users are installing all kind of shit apps anyway
<codeworkx>
same as on windows pc
<frankdrey>
addi, HOW DARETH THOU CRITICIZE ANDROID
<addi>
codeworkx, exactly, but not the useful ones, another fail there xD
<frankdrey>
addi, hey haven't I seen you in ##apple ?:P
<Ntemis>
lol
<addi>
is that a channel? xD
<frankdrey>
addi, yep :P
<Ntemis>
yes about farms
<addi>
I'd think Apple would have filed a lawsuit
<frankdrey>
went there when I had a mac mini for a little while
<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: preview != image
<frankdrey>
had a million problems
<frankdrey>
did not JUST WORK xD
<addi>
problems on Mac? IMPOSSIBLUS!
<bbqbot>
derp
<addi>
Apple stuff "just works" dammit!
<codeworkx>
mac is a problem itself
<Ntemis>
pictures or didnt happenned!
<frankdrey>
addi, lol the thing was stupid :P
<Jiangyi>
Well yeah, but preview shouldn't be more zoomed in, should it? o_O
<addi>
frankdrey is a liar xD
<frankdrey>
I had to put it to sleep and unsleep to turn on the screen
<addi>
but but but Apple told me it all just works!
<frankdrey>
they blamed it on my vga adaptor ._.
<frankdrey>
"it's not official apple"
<addi>
well then, your fault
<frankdrey>
.....................
<Jiangyi>
Either ways, I stopped using the cam, I can't get it to freaking focus :-|
<Ntemis>
it was that one
<addi>
you must buy into Apple's expensive products to not face problems
<frankdrey>
PC works with my adaptor fine xD
<codeworkx>
Jiangyi: preview is low res. if the aspect doesnt match display something gets cut off
<addi>
Apple already told you that, you didn't listen
<addi>
so user fault
<Ntemis>
your plastic used to make it was not apple aprooved
<addi>
not Apple's xD
<Jiangyi>
OK fair enough
<frankdrey>
addi, Apple should write:
<frankdrey>
"HEY GUYS SHIT DON"T WORK UNLESS YOU BUY OUR OVERPRICED ACCESORRIES"
<Ntemis>
LOL
<addi>
this is what turns me off from iPhones etc. okay, so you taking 40% profit on it, but don't loot me after I buy the damn phone!
<codeworkx>
frankdrey: apple stuff is normally incompatible to any standard
<frankdrey>
Ntemis, yeah it overheated
<frankdrey>
codeworkx, yeah :P
<frankdrey>
there was the time I tried setting up linux on my bro's PPC.....
<addi>
all part of the "just works" program
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<addi>
for an advantage like that, 100000 disadvantages come along and are acceptable :P
<codeworkx>
frankdrey: wonder why apple stuff is working with normal electricity
<frankdrey>
BECAUSE APPLE IS LIKE AWESOME
<Ntemis>
yeah
<frankdrey>
codeworkx, the Apple Electricity Line :D
<frankdrey>
ocrap
<codeworkx>
iPower
<frankdrey>
add (r) at the end
<codeworkx>
iPlug
<frankdrey>
don't wanna get sued :(
<codeworkx>
iNuclear
<addi>
and I see so many "power users" saying iOS is the best and does the job, I wonder if they use their smartphone for anything but games >.>
<Jiangyi>
lol
<Ntemis>
i Swear you are having i law suite
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<sud3n>
it's AWESOME for majority of "i_don__t_want_to_know_how_it_works" users.
<frankdrey>
lol
<Ntemis>
+iSwear
<codeworkx>
addi: me is power user. apple is crap
<addi>
sud3n, and that majority of users IS the majority in general xD
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<frankdrey>
i met this girl
<addi>
codeworkx, you real power user, me was talking about "power users", notice the quotes :P
<frankdrey>
she had an hd2 on which she had installed android
<frankdrey>
she was >20 though :(
<addi>
these power users will blame Android's updates problem, lag, etc, but not take the pains to install a custom ROM
<addi>
sorry, "power users"
<codeworkx>
ah. so.... noobs who think they know something
<sud3n>
addi, who f*cking care about them?
<frankdrey>
I'm a poweruser
<frankdrey>
I know how to close my apps
<frankdrey>
double tap home
<frankdrey>
:D
<addi>
yeah, including many in the ##hardware channel who have some good knowledge of hardware and stuff
<frankdrey>
I want to go troll in ##hardware
<addi>
frankdrey, double tap is recent apps list! xD
<addi>
you FAIL POWER USER :P
<frankdrey>
i3? i5? choose i3...i5 is actually slowe
<frankdrey>
*slower
<sud3n>
frankdrey, long press back button works fine ;)
<frankdrey>
the number is 1/3 speed and 1/5 speed
<addi>
sud3n, you also fail, he talk of his iPhone :P
<frankdrey>
sud3n, talking about iPhone :P
<sud3n>
iFone!!!111one
<Ntemis>
iphone 5 has hidden buttons? ;p
<Jiangyi>
Man, the 4.2 camera is messed up =|
<Jiangyi>
If you rotate it, it plays the whole rotation animation instead of just rotating the icons ._.
<frankdrey>
i just did i0s 6 set up
<frankdrey>
it called itself "most advanced OS ever"
<frankdrey>
dafuq...
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<addi>
frankdrey, they were calling it that at iOS unveiling too
<Jiangyi>
frankdrey: The most advanced OS ever which will lead you to drive off a non-existing bridge :-D
<addi>
most advanced OS for sure, considering it can take panorama photos
<sud3n>
anyways..guys. i'v some problem with android encryption. it works fine on cm_i9300-userdebug, but i can't see any option relating to encryption using cm_i9100-userdebug build.
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<addi>
but it's easy for Apple to make things work, considering all year they work on just 2-3 things
<addi>
so all the time to perfect them
<addi>
or not perfect them and make people wait for next update :P
<Jiangyi>
addi: They also like to murder older devices after 2-3 software updates :-P
<addi>
that too xD
<Jiangyi>
iPhone 3G updated to 4.x = Completely unusable
<addi>
but that's the problem with Apple, and to a lesser extent Microsoft. in order to keep things simple for the noobs in the most extreme cases, they come up with tons of limitations
<Jiangyi>
You can barely get the browser to launch for god's sake
<addi>
multitasking can have implications due to a small percentage of apps, so we will never put in actual multitasking
<Ntemis>
i have to confess my wife still uses my iphone 2g but my 2 g1's are sitting in adrawer collecting years to come ;p
<addi>
while Symbian had perfect multitasking without any problems
<frankdrey>
Ntemis, OH MY GOD YOU HAVE G1s
<frankdrey>
HIIIII
<frankdrey>
YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND
<Ntemis>
one white on black
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<Ntemis>
one white one black
<frankdrey>
dude, you know we have cm10?:D
<Ntemis>
yes
<Ntemis>
slow as molases
<frankdrey>
:D
<Ntemis>
:)
<frankdrey>
some guy has got hw accel working :D
<frankdrey>
waiting for his sauces
<Jiangyi>
Probably still faster than that iPhone I was talking about lol
<addi>
probably not, Android = shit on low-end hardware
<addi>
:P
<sud3n>
lies! cm10 faster than my p1-133mhz running ms-dos6.22 ;D
<frankdrey>
addi, nou
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<addi>
frankdrey, yeah? Jelly Bean running awesome on G1? :P
<Ntemis>
derp
<frankdrey>
addi, well we're gonna do it with ICS :P
<sud3n>
so, no power users familiar to android/cm internals?
<Ntemis>
do what?
<bbqbot>
derp
<addi>
ICS sucks ever harder :P
<addi>
even*
<C4aptainAwesome>
Does 4.2 works for daily use for SGS3? (Yeah I know the phone does'nt work but beside that)
<frankdrey>
Ntemis, throw in the hw accel
<addi>
port over Symbian to it, lightest OS ever. but don't ask for special features :P
<frankdrey>
eh
<Ntemis>
i hope it work also for my htc hero!
<frankdrey>
eh FACK
<Ntemis>
it should be easily ported
<frankdrey>
PIECE OF SHIT
<frankdrey>
FUCKKKK
<frankdrey>
my 3gs bootrom got updated :(
<Ntemis>
and?
<frankdrey>
Ntemis, we're actually borrowing a lot from htc hero
<frankdrey>
Ntemis, tether-only jailbreak on 6 :(
<Ntemis>
oh i see
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<Ntemis>
3gs has ios 6! ??
<frankdrey>
Ntemis, yeah
<Ntemis>
works fast?
<frankdrey>
faster than 5
<Ntemis>
oh i see
<Ntemis>
a friend of mine has it but he is still on ios 4xx
<sud3n>
why topic of this channel changed to 'iPhone/iOS/MacOSX' support channel? ;D
<Ntemis>
because you dont have your Phd in android support yet
* Jiangyi
blames frankdrey lol
<sud3n>
Ntemis, nobody needs a pHD to do support
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<Ntemis>
No one is to blame guys, enjoy the next of android related chat
<frankdrey>
sud3n, lol :D
<sud3n>
mheh
<Ntemis>
on topic tsts
* frankdrey
should do his homework
<sud3n>
why encryption disappeared in i9100's cm10 build?
<bbqbot>
derp
<frankdrey>
I can't do anything android related cuz i'm waiting for the "maintainer" of g1 cm9 to fix his repos
<sud3n>
something changed in fs layout?
<Jiangyi>
frankdrey: So should I lol
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<frankdrey>
Jiangyi, :P
<frankdrey>
I have my second history exam on Tuesday :|
<frankdrey>
don't remember ANYTHING
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<Thracky>
so it's not keymapping, likely a fucking driver issue. cause the input devices for the headphone jack aren't even registering any input :|
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<Guest45599>
Anyone out there?
<frankdrey>
hi
<Guest45599>
Hi
<Thracky>
hi
<Guest45599>
Just a question, now that samsung has released the source code for JellyBean it'll be possible to create a kernel (like dorimanx or siyah) for that, right? (I love dualboot) I'm not asking for an ETA or anything, just to know if that's what the source code is for
<Thracky>
lol samsung hasn't released anything new and useful
<Guest45599>
ooops, thought so
<Thracky>
they say they release all this wonderful new stuff and it's mostly useless