<macc24>
ente: i also live in country where no one uses chromebooks
* macc24
glances at his chromebook stack
<macc24>
i think i make average chromebook/person much higher than it actually is
<ente>
I buy used hp elitebooks because they're cheap
<ente>
I have a stack, they all fit into the same docking station
<macc24>
yeah those are good, i have 8460p
<ente>
I have a stack of three 8470p
<macc24>
i put i7 3610qm into my 8460p, and flashed coreboot on it internally
<ente>
and a 12" one that's FUBAR but cost 5€
<macc24>
probably simd is broken on it since jpegs look like trash, but it's fine for everything else
<ente>
I never thought of swapping the cpu until now
<macc24>
and hardware accelerated video takes care of that
<ente>
my main problem is the 16G memory cap
<ente>
I have firefox with a lot of tabs, that regularly hangs my system
<macc24>
on my duet, firefox never hangs before it runs out of memory
<macc24>
because*
<ente>
it doesn't hang either, it just starts swapping into ~/.mozilla
<ente>
which effectively hangs it
<macc24>
oh that would kill emmc
<ente>
if I'm quick I can vt-switch and kill firefox
<ente>
you know these three buttons above the top row of the keyboard? the browser button now is a "killall firefox" button
<macc24>
haha
<ente>
and even that doesn't work if I run into the problem
<macc24>
i think there's a about:config switch that controls this
<ente>
I'd rather just throw more memory on it with all the electron crap I have running
<ente>
would love to switch to coreboot
<macc24>
all elitebooks can be flashed internally
<macc24>
afaik
<ente>
initially that's why I bought the second one
<macc24>
hp has left a useful functionality in their ec
<macc24>
iirc win+b straps hda_sdo or gpio33 to ground when booting
<macc24>
and that unlocks all ifd protections and halts me
<macc24>
PRx registers are still set, but by making bios region smaller, reset vector can point at writable area
<macc24>
i flashed my x201 internally using this too
<ente>
hm, interesting
<macc24>
do you have a 45w cpu in one of your 8470p?
<ente>
I have one or two i5-3230M and one or two i5-3320M
<macc24>
how high temperatures do they reach?
<ente>
depends on whether the firmware fails to spin up the fan (happened once so far)
<macc24>
o_o
<ente>
truth to be told, I don't know
<ente>
fukushima ~ & acpi -t
<ente>
Thermal 1: ok, 0.0 degrees C
<ente>
Thermal 3: ok, 127.0 degrees C
<ente>
Thermal 0: ok, 34.0 degrees C
<ente>
Thermal 2: ok, 40.0 degrees C
<ente>
Thermal 4: ok, 52.0 degrees C
<ente>
Thermal 5: ok, 44.0 degrees C
<macc24>
please don't paste multiple lines at the same time
<ente>
I don't normally, but I figured since I'm not interrupting anyone it's fine
<macc24>
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
<ente>
the pastebin script has a dependency issue tonight
<macc24>
anyway, does it reach like 80°C under 100% load?
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<ente>
the intel website says they're both 35W cpus
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<macc24>
i mean
<macc24>
i can boil water on my cpu
<macc24>
so 20°C is a good enough margin for error
<macc24>
at full peak load my 8460p may even reach 70W of heat
<ente>
it gets hot but not uncomfortably hot, but I have no data
<ente>
why are you asking?
<macc24>
because 105°C can't be good for a cpu
<macc24>
and i am thinking if my 8460p's cooling system is faulty
<ente>
I had a thinkpad t60p where they apparently put gpu power management into the amd driver, and I didn't get it to cool down on linux (I manually echoed the fan fullspeed value into procfs, then it didn't get too hot) but on windows it was fine and quiet.
<macc24>
was this on proprietary driver?
<ente>
yeah
<macc24>
my t60 didn't do that
<ente>
I think I tried all available drivers
<ente>
it also had this weird 32-bit core-duo cpu
<macc24>
oh those were slow
<macc24>
i think my c100pa outperforms it by a great margin
<ente>
I upgraded from an eeepc
<macc24>
atom n270?
<ente>
yeah I think so
<macc24>
oof
<ente>
and before that a pentium 4 ^^
<ente>
compared to all that I never felt like the cpu makes any difference at all for my computing needs
<macc24>
try using a t60 for a week as your only computer
<macc24>
you will feel difference
<ente>
yeah I downgraded back to the eeepc, but browsers got more memory hungry in the meantime and I had trouble with mostly the 2G memory.
<ente>
s/browsers/"the web"
<macc24>
t60 can reach 3gb of memory
<ente>
of course it was slow too, but I could barely open a single tab
<macc24>
i used 2gb as my daily driver for a while
<macc24>
and i could scroll "new" reddit and watch youtube just fine on it
<macc24>
youtube went in 480p max because 720p60 killed the 1.8ghz quadcore arm chip
<ente>
I'm at 5.5G + cache right now
<ente>
the only way I could see myself going back to something below 8G is if the browser unloads unused tabs automatically, and the memory actually gets freed and isn't lost to fragmentation
<ente>
but I admittedly do crazy things with my browser
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<urjaman>
macc24: yeah?
<macc24>
urjaman: wanna test some kernels?
<urjaman>
sure why not, do you happen to have an userspace to go with them too?
<macc24>
nah
<macc24>
just kernel for testing would be enough
<macc24>
userspace doesn't matter
<urjaman>
i mean i kinda can't test a lot without some rootfs :P (and the one i have is being used by the other laptop)
<macc24>
and can you steal firmware for speedy?
<macc24>
if it displays anything and tries to boot from partition labeled Root it will work
<urjaman>
okay i'll figure something out... and yeah i can drop you the speedy FW if you want
<macc24>
in like 30 minutes max ill have a kernel image for speedy