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<ente> good evening!
<ente> *addsit to autojoin*
<macc24> o/ ente
<macc24> ente: i also live in country where no one uses chromebooks
* macc24 glances at his chromebook stack
<macc24> i think i make average chromebook/person much higher than it actually is
<ente> I buy used hp elitebooks because they're cheap
<ente> I have a stack, they all fit into the same docking station
<macc24> yeah those are good, i have 8460p
<ente> I have a stack of three 8470p
<macc24> i put i7 3610qm into my 8460p, and flashed coreboot on it internally
<ente> and a 12" one that's FUBAR but cost 5€
<macc24> probably simd is broken on it since jpegs look like trash, but it's fine for everything else
<ente> I never thought of swapping the cpu until now
<macc24> and hardware accelerated video takes care of that
<ente> my main problem is the 16G memory cap
<ente> I have firefox with a lot of tabs, that regularly hangs my system
<macc24> on my duet, firefox never hangs before it runs out of memory
<macc24> because*
<ente> it doesn't hang either, it just starts swapping into ~/.mozilla
<ente> which effectively hangs it
<macc24> oh that would kill emmc
<ente> if I'm quick I can vt-switch and kill firefox
<ente> you know these three buttons above the top row of the keyboard? the browser button now is a "killall firefox" button
<macc24> haha
<ente> and even that doesn't work if I run into the problem
<macc24> i think there's a about:config switch that controls this
<ente> I'd rather just throw more memory on it with all the electron crap I have running
<ente> would love to switch to coreboot
<macc24> all elitebooks can be flashed internally
<macc24> afaik
<ente> initially that's why I bought the second one
<macc24> hp has left a useful functionality in their ec
<macc24> iirc win+b straps hda_sdo or gpio33 to ground when booting
<macc24> and that unlocks all ifd protections and halts me
<macc24> PRx registers are still set, but by making bios region smaller, reset vector can point at writable area
<macc24> i flashed my x201 internally using this too
<ente> hm, interesting
<macc24> do you have a 45w cpu in one of your 8470p?
<ente> I have one or two i5-3230M and one or two i5-3320M
<macc24> how high temperatures do they reach?
<ente> depends on whether the firmware fails to spin up the fan (happened once so far)
<macc24> o_o
<ente> truth to be told, I don't know
<ente> fukushima ~ & acpi -t
<ente> Thermal 1: ok, 0.0 degrees C
<ente> Thermal 3: ok, 127.0 degrees C
<ente> Thermal 0: ok, 34.0 degrees C
<ente> Thermal 2: ok, 40.0 degrees C
<ente> Thermal 4: ok, 52.0 degrees C
<ente> Thermal 5: ok, 44.0 degrees C
<macc24> please don't paste multiple lines at the same time
<ente> I don't normally, but I figured since I'm not interrupting anyone it's fine
<macc24> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
<ente> the pastebin script has a dependency issue tonight
<macc24> anyway, does it reach like 80°C under 100% load?
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<ente> the intel website says they're both 35W cpus
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<macc24> i mean
<macc24> i can boil water on my cpu
<macc24> so 20°C is a good enough margin for error
<macc24> at full peak load my 8460p may even reach 70W of heat
<ente> it gets hot but not uncomfortably hot, but I have no data
<ente> why are you asking?
<macc24> because 105°C can't be good for a cpu
<macc24> and i am thinking if my 8460p's cooling system is faulty
<ente> I had a thinkpad t60p where they apparently put gpu power management into the amd driver, and I didn't get it to cool down on linux (I manually echoed the fan fullspeed value into procfs, then it didn't get too hot) but on windows it was fine and quiet.
<macc24> was this on proprietary driver?
<ente> yeah
<macc24> my t60 didn't do that
<ente> I think I tried all available drivers
<ente> it also had this weird 32-bit core-duo cpu
<macc24> oh those were slow
<macc24> i think my c100pa outperforms it by a great margin
<ente> I upgraded from an eeepc
<macc24> atom n270?
<ente> yeah I think so
<macc24> oof
<ente> and before that a pentium 4 ^^
<ente> compared to all that I never felt like the cpu makes any difference at all for my computing needs
<macc24> try using a t60 for a week as your only computer
<macc24> you will feel difference
<ente> yeah I downgraded back to the eeepc, but browsers got more memory hungry in the meantime and I had trouble with mostly the 2G memory.
<ente> s/browsers/"the web"
<macc24> t60 can reach 3gb of memory
<ente> of course it was slow too, but I could barely open a single tab
<macc24> i used 2gb as my daily driver for a while
<macc24> and i could scroll "new" reddit and watch youtube just fine on it
<macc24> youtube went in 480p max because 720p60 killed the 1.8ghz quadcore arm chip
<ente> I'm at 5.5G + cache right now
<ente> the only way I could see myself going back to something below 8G is if the browser unloads unused tabs automatically, and the memory actually gets freed and isn't lost to fragmentation
<ente> but I admittedly do crazy things with my browser
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<urjaman> macc24: yeah?
<macc24> urjaman: wanna test some kernels?
<urjaman> sure why not, do you happen to have an userspace to go with them too?
<macc24> nah
<macc24> just kernel for testing would be enough
<macc24> userspace doesn't matter
<urjaman> i mean i kinda can't test a lot without some rootfs :P (and the one i have is being used by the other laptop)
<macc24> and can you steal firmware for speedy?
<macc24> if it displays anything and tries to boot from partition labeled Root it will work
<urjaman> okay i'll figure something out... and yeah i can drop you the speedy FW if you want
<macc24> in like 30 minutes max ill have a kernel image for speedy
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