14:23 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, I revert my notion about what I answered http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900/2015-09-01#13881634 -- this SUCKS big time https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20150831/07164532118/no-fcc-is-not-intentionally-trying-to-kill-third-party-wi-fi-router-firmware.shtml and http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Funkregulierung-Angriff-auf-alternative-Software-2803189.html

14:30 <wpwrak> the next best thing to having a vogon battle fleet appear out of hyperspace right next to earth ...

14:32 <DocScrutinizer05> you might start to wonder if that's been a genuine FCC concern or actually it been NSA asking FCC to do something about firmware they can't hide their backdoors in

14:32 <DocScrutinizer05> also note this seems to be ALREADY IN EFFECT in Europe

14:32 <DocScrutinizer05> :-o

14:33 <wpwrak> (eu) as far as i can tell, approved but not yet in effect. not sure if it can still be averted, though.

15:37 <stefek99> FYI / random / unrelated - eBay - Nokia N900 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-N900-Overclocked-850mhz-32Gb-Unlocked-Hacker-phone-mod-/321849782418?hash=item4aefbdf092 - full suite of hacker tools :)

15:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ((approved but not yet in effect)) prolly right - and we need to go really bold to stop that nonsense. It will kill Neo900 as well as e.g. AVM (FritzBox) and a *lot* of other projects/companies