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<cladamw>
thickest? I've seen 3mm for like mainframe board but don't know which one is most regular.
<wolfspraul>
total maximum board thickness is given there at 5 mm (or 6mm for 'high-end')
<wolfspraul>
but that's for all layers...
<cladamw>
yup. the link is pcb makers they must be have to show their capability.
<wolfspraul>
I'm wondering what the thickest core thickness is
<wolfspraul>
they only give the 'minimum core thickness' :-)
<wolfspraul>
but not the maximum core thickness...
<wolfspraul>
I'm wondering whether we can make case parts from a pcb maker :-)
<cladamw>
hu? for case purpose ?
<wolfspraul>
sure
<cladamw>
hm..i see.
<wolfspraul>
can they make rectangular holes? don't know
<wolfspraul>
but I think they have an efficient process that could well make nice case parts
<wolfspraul>
with silkscreen and all :-)
<cladamw>
so then i should call here though directly to know what maximum regularly sell in their experiences. ;-)
<wolfspraul>
no need, I am just evaluating a little now, will ask here
<cladamw>
mm...okay
<wolfspraul>
as usual everything can be made, theoretically, but I'm wondering what's cheap and common
<wolfspraul>
2.5mm core definitely seems standard
<wolfspraul>
cladamw: you understand my idea about making case parts out of pcb cores?
<cladamw>
yes
<wolfspraul>
I just realized today that they have an entire efficient process setup that may deliver us pretty much the same parts we have now, just not in acrylic
<wolfspraul>
maybe I will make a test case like that first :-)
<cladamw>
but there shou'd not have a standard thickness said as 2.5mm. ;-) but you can evaluate there with direct call. ;-)
<wolfspraul>
no need right now
<cladamw>
(case) nice idea though.
<wolfspraul>
2.5mm is a standard thickness I think
<wolfspraul>
judging from what I can see on the market here in China. but I will ask around a bit, just had the idea now - I'm sure there will be some problems...
<cladamw>
btw, someone wanted to order GPM panle again from me. ;-) fyi.
<cladamw>
sure, ask first. ;-)
<wpwrak>
gpm ?
<wolfspraul>
nice, did you sell them?
<cladamw>
Giantplus LCM, yes
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<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: i wonder if they can reliably source unclad PCBs for you. else, you'll pay for a lot of copper ...
<wolfspraul>
I can source them on the market here easier than you source a chewing gum down the street :-)
<wolfspraul>
the copper looks nice too actually, but in any case we need holes for the leds
<wolfspraul>
I think I will make a test case, I have several anyway, like wood
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: but i think you may be trying to solve a non-problem. the case is so expensive because you're buying from the wrong place. now you're kinda trying to extract drinking water from rain because you find the price of mineral water at the pharmacy too expensive.
<wolfspraul>
I add one out of pcb, with and without copper :-)
<wolfspraul>
nah you are too rigid, this is an experiment only
<wolfspraul>
I just realized they may have the process already...
<wpwrak>
sure. try it :) but you should also try to find a proper acrylics place
<wolfspraul>
you like my pcb idea, I see :-)
<wpwrak>
at least you wouldn't have to worry about crazy thickness tolerances :)
<cladamw>
DocScrutinizer51, hi thanks for your comments on ML. ;-)
<DocScrutinizer>
yw
<cladamw>
About the V29 ~ V30 : AVR-M1005C080MTACB, it's the compatible part I were trying to meet Panasonic p/n: EZJP0V080DA and suited to replace those 47pF/C273~C277(CD-in & Line-in). so it's compatible. ;-)
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<qi-bot>
[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/patches/rtems/series: update and bring back milkymist-midi-opt.patch (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/60601c9
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<askercz>
I am trying to create a xburst toolchain on my linux mint debian system, but the compiler tells me that "no gail package was found". What is this mysterious gail package?
<askercz>
or GAIL_LIBS
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<Ayla>
apt-cache search gail
<Ayla>
I believe you need to install libgail-dev
<askercz>
ayla: I have it yet, I installed after, but it is not it wants
<Ayla>
libgail-3-dev then
<Ayla>
or libgail-3-0, or libgail18, one of those :p
<askercz>
ayla: ok, I am trying now but I don't understand why openwrt needs gnome accessibility tools
<Ayla>
heh, I don't know
<askercz>
ayla: the compilation failed again :)
<askercz>
ayla: the compilation failed again :(
<askercz>
ayla: it always stops at gkhtml
<Ayla>
I don't use that toolchain, so I can't really help you
<viric>
'a xburst toolchain''
<viric>
?
<viric>
why it wants something beyond gcc, libc and binutils?
<askercz>
viric: I would like to set up a build environment to try create NN apps
<askercz>
viric: I found a tutorial on qi-hardware and trying to set it up
<askercz>
viric: never did that before
<viric>
I don't know the tutorial...
<askercz>
viric: I just would like to compile some program for the nanonote
<askercz>
viric: but it stops at compiling the basic kernel and toolchain
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<viric>
:)
<viric>
the path to cross-building has many holes where people can fall
<viric>
maybe if you paste the error you get...
<wpwrak>
always wear a Ring of Levitation (+2)
<viric>
+2 always helps, of course
<askercz>
what is the absolut minimum I should compile in this kernel to get it work? The NN have not much chip in it, I suppose: cpu, memory, audio, usb, sdcard what else?
<viric>
gtkhtml can very well depend on a gnome thing
<viric>
why you build gtkhtml, I don't know
<askercz>
viric: neither do I. I am chasing it in the menuconfig and kill it.
<viric>
ok
<askercz>
viric: for the toolchain, I have not to compile other programs, isn't it?
<viric>
no
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<askercz>
probably it is a dumb question, but is there a way to compile for the nanonote only by defining with a makefile all the mips-xburst thing and not having a compiled kernel for this platform?
<larsc>
yes
<askercz>
larsc: is there a tutorial for that?
<larsc>
askercz: hm, not sure. what do you want to do?
<askercz>
larsc: trying to port apps
<askercz>
larsc: with sdl probably
<larsc>
if the makefile is properly written all you need to do is pass the correct CC, LD, CFLAGS, etc. variables
<askercz>
larsc: thanks, I will search for it. btw, there is a way to use a .so file instead of a .h one? I have a source file, but only a compiled library to link to...
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<larsc>
no
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<larsc>
but maybe i misunderstood the question
<askercz>
larsc: no, thanks for your reply
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<askercz>
btw, I don't understand yet a lot of things, but NN is fun.