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<qi-bot>
Qi Hardware: @qihardware <xiangfu> Ben NanoNote oscsend message to @milkymistjv http://t.co/7lPhvZ1L ( 186305038984036354@qihardware - 24s ago via qi-bot )
<kristianpaul>
he, i even dint knew about oscsend on the ben
<xiangfu>
kristianpaul, I have a typo again. :( milkymistvj not milkymistjv
<kristianpaul>
what is the admin account good for? :)
<Martix>
wolfspraul: we are looking for speaks/workshop about open & mobile platforms and Open Source Hardware
<Martix>
and Qi project is very interesting
<DocScrutinizer>
!seen wolfspraul
<qi-bot>
DocScrutinizer, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
<DocScrutinizer>
~seen wolfspraul
<infobot>
wolfspraul is currently on #qi-hardware (1d 7h 25m 1s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 1d 7h 15m 55s, last said: 'I hope he makes it to this channel, that'd be cool'.
<Martix>
wolfspraul: DocScrutinizer anyway I added this channel to my favourites, but feel free to contact me via e-mail conference@openmobility.eu when I am offline, soon as possible :-)
<wolfspraul>
I have to reply to the guy who recently asked about the vienna open source days, urgh
<wolfspraul>
going backwards in my todo list as usual :-)
<wolfspraul>
in the end it comes down to how much effort you yourself are going to make
<wolfspraul>
a lot of conferences are run on the premise that there are many hungry marketing departments of large cash-rich tech corps out there looking for opportunities to show their skills
<wolfspraul>
so you ping them, then they check the cool factor, and if it's cool enough, they move their machine
<wolfspraul>
that is not going to happen with Qi
<Martix>
wolfspraul: do you have any contact on Jirka?
<wolfspraul>
can you contact him over his blog?
<wolfspraul>
he is a customer but for privacy reasons I cannot give you the contact info I got from there. I can google though, same as you. or go via the blog.
<Martix>
I can, but I would like to use more direct approach...googling anyway
<wolfspraul>
sorry this may appear so unfriendly, but I have to protect customer data, in fact I am deleting most of it as soon as I can :-)
<Martix>
I know :-)
<wolfspraul>
yes understand, well normally 100% of everything is open, but not that one
<wolfspraul>
there is an implicit confidentiality in a buyer-seller relationship
<wolfspraul>
but he is blogging :-)
<wolfspraul>
if the buyer wants to be open about what he bought, he will do so himself, as Jirka did
<Martix>
I found his last name inside sources hosted on github :-)
<wolfspraul>
if there would be a totally anonymous way to buy, then we could consider someone who is buying non-anonymously to implicitly accept that the transaction is (semi)public
<wolfspraul>
but there is not, and even if there were everybody would need to be aware of it
<wolfspraul>
so no
<Martix>
and I think, I know him from somewhere :-)
<wolfspraul>
unfortunately buying something and paying for it requires you to strip yourself quite a bit
<Martix>
what about using Bitcoins?
<wolfspraul>
not my system, but that's how it is. and then I cannot turn around and use that data, anywhere. it's unfair.
<wolfspraul>
sure I'm for it
<wolfspraul>
but then you still have the shipping address problem
<wolfspraul>
and returns/warranty
<Martix>
wolfspraul: understood :-)
<wolfspraul>
we have some customers who go pretty far on this
<wolfspraul>
they use pre-paid credit cards, and product delivered to one-time po boxes
<wolfspraul>
:-)
<wolfspraul>
but 99% will open up all their data as required by 'the system'
<wolfspraul>
and I will delete that asap...
<wolfspraul>
so yeah, I'm sure you will get in touch with him
<Martix>
thanks
<wolfspraul>
Martix: do you have a url for the event?