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<xiangfu> !tweet @qihardware Ben NanoNote oscsend message to @milkymistjv http://jirkasnotes.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/playing-with-milkymist/
<qi-bot> Tweet created: http://twitter.com/qihardware
<qi-bot> Qi Hardware: @qihardware <xiangfu> Ben NanoNote oscsend message to @milkymistjv http://t.co/7lPhvZ1L ( 186305038984036354@qihardware - 24s ago via qi-bot )
<kristianpaul> he, i even dint knew about oscsend on the ben
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, I have a typo again. :( milkymistvj not milkymistjv
<kristianpaul> what is the admin account good for? :)
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, have you upload the bitstream somewhere? https://github.com/kristianpaul/milkyminer
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, we should setup the milkyminer under build ost.
<xiangfu> s/ost/host
<qi-bot> xiangfu meant: "kristianpaul, we should setup the milkyminer under build host."
<kristianpaul> build not need.. yet but should be fast
<kristianpaul> and no i dont uploaded it, but i could
<kristianpaul> give me some minutes
* xiangfu doing ' make -C boards/milkymist-one/flash/'
* kristianpaul too
<xiangfu> 'FATAL_ERROR:XdmHelpers:Xdh_LibLoader.c:116:1.8 - Failed to open library'
<kristianpaul> hmm?
<kristianpaul> what branch?
<kristianpaul> master should work at 50568adbaf857fc8086126cd679f12e22a138bef
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, missing 'build' dir under ./boards/milkymist-one/synthesis
<xiangfu> kristianpaul, would you mind add me to milkyminer?
<kristianpaul> how?
<kristianpaul> lets see
<xiangfu> maybe my ISE problem. anyway I already start build under buildhost. :)
<kristianpaul> done
<kristianpaul> no no
<kristianpaul> not you problem
<kristianpaul> missing folder i think
<kristianpaul> ok done
<kristianpaul> hmm
<kristianpaul> just remener the initial port is hackish not a SoC it self
<kristianpaul> just a cuted version of Icarus
<kristianpaul> soc branch will be more like a soc, but still some work to do..
<kristianpaul> ergh, forgot push it..
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<GitHub28> [milkyminer] kristianpaul created soc (+1 new commit): https://github.com/kristianpaul/milkyminer/commit/7b4fa17
<GitHub28> [milkyminer/soc] Initial SoC skeleton - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
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<kristianpaul> xiangfu: so i doubt if this will build as a legacy milkymist soc (current master branch)
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<xiangfu> let wait the build host result
<kristianpaul> oh, is still building? :)
* kristianpaul off
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<qi-bot> [commit] kyak: keymouse: keyboard is at event0 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/fe3094b
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<GitHub33> [milkyminer] xiangfu pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/kristianpaul/milkyminer/commit/a8903cc4a8312881dc5cd6965c8212cfad69bcc0
<GitHub33> [milkyminer/master] add build folder or compile will fail - Xiangfu
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<DocScrutinizer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware please fix M1 link, the blog doesn't return hits
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<Martix> wolfspraul: hi
<DocScrutinizer> Martix: hi
<DocScrutinizer> go ahead
<Martix> wolfspraul: I am organizing Openmobility conference 2012 at 21st April in Prague
<Martix> wolfspraul: our program is almost full, but have free slot for another speak or workshop
<Martix> wolfspraul: general info is here: http://www.openmobility.eu/conference/om2012/cfp
<Martix> wolfspraul: we are looking for speaks/workshop about open & mobile platforms and Open Source Hardware
<Martix> and Qi project is very interesting
<DocScrutinizer> !seen wolfspraul
<qi-bot> DocScrutinizer, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
<DocScrutinizer> ~seen wolfspraul
<infobot> wolfspraul is currently on #qi-hardware (1d 7h 25m 1s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 1d 7h 15m 55s, last said: 'I hope he makes it to this channel, that'd be cool'.
<Martix> wolfspraul: DocScrutinizer anyway I added this channel to my favourites, but feel free to contact me via e-mail conference@openmobility.eu when I am offline, soon as possible :-)
<Martix> and this is preliminary program: preliminary program: http://ukoly.openmobility.cz/projects/konference/wiki/2012_prednasky I want to finish it on Monday and officially publish
<DocScrutinizer> haha, freenode rides DDOS attacks against own page, http://freenode.net/privacy_change.html doesn't respond
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<DocScrutinizer> I'd guess it's an April's fool joke anyway
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<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer: april 1st, worst day of the year for announcements of any kind ;-)
<DocScrutinizer> [2012-04-01 13:11:01] <Martinp23> metaphysician: we can ddos ourselves thank you very much.
<DocScrutinizer> [2012-04-01 13:11:03] <JonathanD> metaphysician: we're apparently quite good at DDOSing ourselves.
<DocScrutinizer> the final stage put into effect at April 31. (SIC!)
<Martix> wpwrak: yeah, I realized this after writing to wolfspraul
<wpwrak> yeah, they got that bit wrong
<wpwrak> ah yes, april 31 ;-)
<DocScrutinizer> also comic sans in a jpg, WTF?!
<DocScrutinizer> [2012-04-01 13:10:37] <Martinp23> dwfreed: apparently it was 4 seconds until the server was ddos'd, which was better than i expected
<wpwrak> they forgot to provide a contact e-mail. shitstorm@freenode.net or such :)
<DocScrutinizer> indeed
<DocScrutinizer> for an april's fool it's just a tad too close to reality
<DocScrutinizer> lots will take it for serious and quit the network
<wpwrak> yeah. the long-time logs are a reality anyway :)
<DocScrutinizer> my comment on #freenode: "DUH, I got all this on all of my channels since years!"
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<wpwrak> exactly :)
<wolfspraul> Martix: hi, welcome to Qi Hardware!
<wolfspraul> it's always nice to see new faces...
<Martix> wolfspraul: hi
<Martix> wolfspraul: maybe, but not new in Openmoko community, I have Neo FreeRunner from 31st June 2008 and still use it as a the only phone :-)
<wolfspraul> nice!
<Martix> wolfspraul: did you read messages starting from [12:52] UTC+1?
<Martix> actually UTC+2 (daylight saving)
<wolfspraul> not really, something about an event in Prague
<Martix> wolfspraul: TLDR: Do you have time on 21st April, can you visit Prague and have a talk or workshop on Qi Hardware and/or Openmoko?
<wolfspraul> very unlikely :-)
<wolfspraul> but thanks a lot for asking!
<Martix> wolfspraul: how come?
<wolfspraul> god there must be 10+ reasons at least :-)
<wolfspraul> I'm super focused and concentrated right now and don't want to travel
<wolfspraul> getting my daughter to sleep at night is priceless and you need something like a *really* big incentive to get me away from that
<wolfspraul> I doubt you would be able to pay all the costs associated in getting me from Beijing to Prague
<wolfspraul> and so on
<Martix> oh, Beijing is too far :-)
<wolfspraul> plus I don't like conferences, I like meetings where people do something, as opposed to talk
<wolfspraul> but... you could send an email to the qi discussion list, we may have someone in Prague
<Martix> you can do workshop :-)
<Martix> ok, I'll send it tomorrow
<wpwrak> conferences usually give you ideas. and you get to sample foreign beers. they're no waste of time :)
<Martix> wpwrak: +1
<wolfspraul> I have no shortage of either new ideas or beers
<wolfspraul> but anyway, we can keep it short and efficient. there is no way I will be in Prague on April 21st
<Martix> understood
<wolfspraul> but It's great that you want something from Qi in the event
<wolfspraul> he's in Czech I think, but not Prague http://jirkasnotes.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/milkymist-one/
<Martix> yeah Jirka is Czech name
<wolfspraul> I have to reply to the guy who recently asked about the vienna open source days, urgh
<wolfspraul> going backwards in my todo list as usual :-)
<wolfspraul> in the end it comes down to how much effort you yourself are going to make
<wolfspraul> a lot of conferences are run on the premise that there are many hungry marketing departments of large cash-rich tech corps out there looking for opportunities to show their skills
<wolfspraul> so you ping them, then they check the cool factor, and if it's cool enough, they move their machine
<wolfspraul> that is not going to happen with Qi
<Martix> wolfspraul: do you have any contact on Jirka?
<wolfspraul> can you contact him over his blog?
<wolfspraul> he is a customer but for privacy reasons I cannot give you the contact info I got from there. I can google though, same as you. or go via the blog.
<Martix> I can, but I would like to use more direct approach...googling anyway
<wolfspraul> sorry this may appear so unfriendly, but I have to protect customer data, in fact I am deleting most of it as soon as I can :-)
<Martix> I know :-)
<wolfspraul> yes understand, well normally 100% of everything is open, but not that one
<wolfspraul> there is an implicit confidentiality in a buyer-seller relationship
<wolfspraul> but he is blogging :-)
<wolfspraul> if the buyer wants to be open about what he bought, he will do so himself, as Jirka did
<Martix> I found his last name inside sources hosted on github :-)
<wolfspraul> if there would be a totally anonymous way to buy, then we could consider someone who is buying non-anonymously to implicitly accept that the transaction is (semi)public
<wolfspraul> but there is not, and even if there were everybody would need to be aware of it
<wolfspraul> so no
<Martix> and I think, I know him from somewhere :-)
<wolfspraul> unfortunately buying something and paying for it requires you to strip yourself quite a bit
<Martix> what about using Bitcoins?
<wolfspraul> not my system, but that's how it is. and then I cannot turn around and use that data, anywhere. it's unfair.
<wolfspraul> sure I'm for it
<wolfspraul> but then you still have the shipping address problem
<wolfspraul> and returns/warranty
<Martix> wolfspraul: understood :-)
<wolfspraul> we have some customers who go pretty far on this
<wolfspraul> they use pre-paid credit cards, and product delivered to one-time po boxes
<wolfspraul> :-)
<wolfspraul> but 99% will open up all their data as required by 'the system'
<wolfspraul> and I will delete that asap...
<wolfspraul> so yeah, I'm sure you will get in touch with him
<Martix> thanks
<wolfspraul> Martix: do you have a url for the event?
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<jirkab> martix,wolfspraul: my email is "jirka (at) penguin (dot) cz", (jirkasnotes.wordpress.com)
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<kristianpaul> /n
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<Ewan> DocScrutinizer: ls -l = dir /w/p
<Ewan> :-D
<Ewan> erm..
<Ewan> . /w
<Ewan> hrhr
<Ewan> so 'ls -l' = 'dir /p'
<Ewan> OR ls -l = s
<DocScrutinizer> wtf are you telling me?
<Ewan> <DocScrutinizer> after all he didn't ask 'what means "ls -l"?'
<Ewan> :-P
<DocScrutinizer> *I* didn't ask either :-D
<DocScrutinizer> and I still think "how to get console on Ben" is a valid question, unless console is what you got anyway after powerup
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<Ewan> console is where you are, when you leave gmenu ;)
<Ewan> console is latinotalk -> con sole = with sun
<Ewan> it's a shiny place to manage computers
<Ewan> :-D
<kristianpaul> o sole mio? :)
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<Ewan> yep :-d
<Ewan> console mio
<larsc> con mio sole?
<Ewan> ti sole, mi sole, solo sei per tutti (frutti) :-D
<viric> sole pizza amore...
<Martix> jirkab: I already sent you an e-mail
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<GNUtoo> hmmm
<LunaVorax> Hello everyone
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<blogic> aloha
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<qi-bot> [commit] David K
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<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: makefiles/Makefile.kicad: updated for "new" command-line option names (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/9ae2eb8
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: cameo/excellon.c: recognize G90 code (absolute mode) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/8ce420b
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<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: modules/zx62m-b-5p.fpd: Hirose ZX62M-B-5P Micro-USB receptacle (mid-mount) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/5171ee9
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