Topic for #qi-hardware is now Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs
emeb has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
emeb has joined #qi-hardware
emeb has quit [Client Quit]
emeb has joined #qi-hardware
GNUtoo-desktop has quit [Quit: [INFO] fsogsmd : received signal -11, exiting.]
pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware
Ayla has quit [Quit: dodo]
emeb has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
Maroni has left #qi-hardware [#qi-hardware]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Quit: leaving]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Quit: leaving]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
djbclark has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
kristianpaul has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
wpwrak has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware
* wpwrak
hates nspluginviewer. first time in ages i had a kernel crash.
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
pabs3 has quit [Quit: Don't rest until all the world is paved in moss and greenery.]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
<viric>
what is nspluginviewer?
<viric>
are you blaming a user space program for a kernel crash ? :)
pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware
<wpwrak>
well, that flash junk does a lot of weird things. it may have some "dirty" paths that allow it to corrupt things it shouldn't be allowed to corrupt.
<wpwrak>
e.g., i sometimes get residual windows that just stick in the X11 frame buffer. but only from flash. nothing else has such problems.
<viric>
hm I never noticed those problems
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
kilae_ has joined #qi-hardware
kilae has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
jekhor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
jekhor has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
rejon has joined #qi-hardware
mth has joined #qi-hardware
LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware
<LunaVorax>
Hello everyone!
DocScrutinizer has quit [Disconnected by services]
DocScrutinizer has joined #qi-hardware
B_Lizzard has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
<whitequark>
wpwrak: I'm pretty sure that your problem isn't nspluginviewer itself, but 3D acceleration which flash uses
<whitequark>
iow, you have broken graphics drivers, which is more common than not
rzk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
rzk has joined #qi-hardware
<wpwrak>
it's some chain that begins with flash, which is a useless annoyance to begin with
<wpwrak>
so i put the blame right at the origin :)
<wpwrak>
or, paraphrasing Linus, "fuck you flash, fuck you !" :)
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Client Quit]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has quit [Quit: leaving]
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware
jekhor has joined #qi-hardware
B_Lizzard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<viric>
the sheevaplug is a very nice device still
<viric>
and there are the pixel qi people too... I still want such a nice screen :)
<kristianpaul>
well i was more interested on the script to fetch media from the archive.org more easilly
<viric>
:D
<kristianpaul>
the kindle screen is very interesting too, well whatever is e-ink
<kristianpaul>
shame kindle fire is no color e-ink ;)
<viric>
I think most discomfort for reading is not always the screen
<kristianpaul>
oh no, how you feel the book to
<viric>
I think that there should be more power to the users for choosing the layout, the types, etc.
<kristianpaul>
passing pages... bookmarking
<viric>
I dislike how the CSS on browsers has developed, into a system that makes the web *authors* decide how it will look like, instead of the *readers*.
<viric>
the whole html idea upside down :)
<viric>
We rarely see easy tools to tune the spacing, the types used, the thickness, the antialiasing technique, ...
<viric>
for the reader.
<kristianpaul>
ah good point
<viric>
colors...
<viric>
bg and fg
<viric>
that matters a lot for me, for a comfortable reading
freakazoid0223 has joined #qi-hardware
<viric>
Some *authoring* tools have nice devices to set up all that, but with computer-like devices, that power should be given to the readers.
<viric>
For example, I dislike the so broad use of sans-serif types for texts.
<viric>
I'm often lucky, that few authors use style-overriding tags in their feeds :)
<viric>
then I can easily make their text look like what I want.
<viric>
but that's tuned for my usual screen, of course.
<viric>
(and browser, ...)
<kristianpaul>
you like banks a lot :)
<viric>
haha
<kristianpaul>
you read on wich kind of screen?
<viric>
that's for firefox in my laptop
<kristianpaul>
laptop,tablet, desktop, mobile?
<viric>
For my sony e-ink ereader, I use the 'Plan PDF' option above :)
<viric>
thank you for your link nevertheless! I like these issues about making reading comfortable
<kristianpaul>
:-)
<viric>
but I think there is a lot more field for blaming the software, than the hardware :)
<viric>
For example, I think that if the user can easily interact with the screen contents, that makes reading difficult ;)
kristoffer has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<kristianpaul>
diffcult because you want to do more and more.. the got fustrated or the contrary..
LunaVorax has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<kristianpaul>
s/the/then
<qi-bot>
kristianpaul meant: "diffcult because you want to do more and more.. then got fustrated or then contrary.."
freakazoid0223 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
freakazoid0223 has joined #qi-hardware
pabs3 has quit [Quit: Don't rest until all the world is paved in moss and greenery.]
GNUtoo-desktop has joined #qi-hardware
paroneayea has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
paroneayea has joined #qi-hardware
LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware
jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
jekhor has joined #qi-hardware
LunaVorax has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
rejon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
dandon has quit [Quit: .]
dandon has joined #qi-hardware
paroneayea has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
freakazoid0223 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<Ayla>
whitequark: hello
<Ayla>
does jz-boot support the jz4770?
<whitequark>
Ayla: nfc
<whitequark>
but probably it won't be hard to fix it if it does not
<Ayla>
ok, it does not :)
<whitequark>
you'll need to substitute the secondary bootloader for jz4770's
<whitequark>
and probably tweak the parameters block
<Ayla>
I mean it's not even recognized with the -e option
paroneayea has joined #qi-hardware
kilae_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]]
<whitequark>
Ayla: maybe USB vendor/device ids are wrong?
<Ayla>
whitequark: idVendor=a108, idProduct=4770
<Ayla>
my dingoo has idVendor=601a
LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware
<Ayla>
ok, I patched it, let's see if it works...
<Ayla>
yep, it is detected
<whitequark>
cool
<Ayla>
where can I find the firmware?
<larsc>
you have to write it :p
<Ayla>
ouch.
pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware
phirsch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
<Ayla>
can't I use the firmware files provided by Ingenic?
<larsc>
maybe
<Ayla>
...
<larsc>
there's only one way to find it out
<Ayla>
yeah
<Ayla>
ask whitequark :)
<larsc>
hehe
<Ayla>
I tried to boot with those files, but it didn't work; however that does not mean the files are wrong, as jzboot doesn't really support the jz4770 right now
phirsch has joined #qi-hardware
<whitequark>
Ayla: for jz4740 we used the ingenic firmware
<Ayla>
I tried with the firmware files from ingenic, but it disconnects as soon as I type "boot" or try to set a GPIO
LunaVorax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware
freakazoid0223 has joined #qi-hardware
LunaVorax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware
<Ayla>
ok, looks like I can load the second firmware
<Ayla>
that means the SRAM is correctly initialized
<whitequark>
nice
jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
pabs3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
GNUtoo-desktop has quit [Quit: [INFO] fsogsmd : received signal -11, exiting.]
pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware
Textmode has joined #qi-hardware
pabs3 has quit [Quit: Don't rest until all the world is paved in moss and greenery.]