#arm-netbook on 2013-04-12 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-02-27 01:11 lkcl changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net

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12:06 <SPG> lkcl master 32bbaed rhombus allwinner_a10/news/ working_sample_001.png working_sample_002.png * working samples a10! * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=32bbaed

12:06 <SPG> lkcl master 17a2b10 rhombus * Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=17a2b10

12:09 <SPG> lkcl master 479e8eb rhombus allwinner_a10/news.html * a10 samples working * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=479e8eb

12:09 <lkcl> woo! working boards!

12:19 <SPG> lkcl master 9cd9aba rhombus realtek/rtd1186.mdwn * datasheet search for rtd1186 * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cd9aba

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12:44 <lkcl> http://slashdot.org/submission/2599017/rhombus-tech-2nd-revision-a10-eoma68-card-working-samples

12:45 <lkcl> please do vote on that link

12:45 <lkcl> share and promote!

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12:56 <Undertasker> What's the advantage of pcmcia form factor? Already existing base boards?

13:00 <Undertasker> What I'd really like to have is a small A10/A20 Stick with a VGA connector at one end and I/O Ports at the other.

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13:04 <Yaku> i like the concept of having an arm netbook upgradable with an eoma card every year

13:07 <lkcl> Undertasker: the parts are just reaching the end of their use for PCMCIA, so we can re-use them

13:07 <lkcl> and the form-factor's basically credit-card-sized but robust.

13:08 <lkcl> Undertasker: well, how about a 5mm x 86 x 54mm card with HDMI at one end and 68 pins of I/O at the other, would that do?

13:08 <lkcl> Yaku: yeah. it means that once products start getting produced, they *LITERALLY* do not have to change.... *EVER*.

13:08 <lkcl> a big factory can LITERALLY keep rolling out the same product for a decade [or until parts go EOL]

13:09 <lkcl> upgrades of the CPU card are what matter

13:09 <dw> lkcl: are you with the company? have you any plans for a SATA-III supporting device?

13:09 <Undertasker> Thing is, I have lots of VGA monitors, also industrial ones with touch. I could put them to a new use with a A10 VGA Stick

13:09 <lkcl> and if the product (laptop, tablet, desktop pc, etc.) keeps churning out in huge volume....

13:10 <lkcl> Undertasker: then you want a USB-based DisplayLink adaptor. look up the UD-160 for example.

13:10 <Undertasker> No, they are expensive

13:10 <lkcl> dw: yes. SATA-III *might* work. it just depends on whether the pins cope with 6gbits/s without too much EMI

13:10 * dw remembers when a vga card cost $140 for a basic model

13:10 <lkcl> Undertasker: so is putting a huge legacy connector on such a small device.

13:10 <Undertasker> The A10 already has hardware VGA, so why doesn't anybody make boards with VGA?

13:11 <lkcl> we had a hell of a job tracking down the mid-mount micro HDMI Type D connector - it's the only thing that would fit.

13:11 <Undertasker> I have a VIA APC that has VGA, but the board is crap

13:11 <lkcl> Undertasker: because the connectors are huge, everyone's moved to HDMI, and the power consumption of running 75ohm analog is *really* large.

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13:11 <lkcl> especially at higher resolutions.

13:12 <Undertasker> Well, nearly everybody i know has VGA monitors gathering dust, therefore I think cheap VGA Android sticks would sell like hell

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13:13 <Undertasker> You can even buy new VGA only monitors.

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13:14 <Undertasker> I have three old VGA TFT's, that would make nice surf/game/media maschines.

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13:19 <dw> are there any ARM socs around sporting usb3 yet?

13:20 <lkcl> dw: mmmm.... tegra 3 has it.

13:20 <lkcl> that's one i want access to

13:20 <lkcl> for the EOMA-200 standard as well

13:20 <lkcl> because it also has PCI-Express

13:21 <dw> nice

13:21 <dw> seems new-generation usb3 displaylink devices also have integrated gigE

13:22 <dw> almost at the point where plugging phone into docking station makes perfect sense :)

13:28 <lkcl> yeah!

13:28 <lkcl> almost.... hmmm...

13:29 <lkcl> no, i've thought about it for 5 more seconds: that's just sick, dw :)

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13:42 <dw> lkcl: :)

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15:14 <SPG> lkcl master 322489d rhombus allwinner/a31.mdwn * mele a1000g * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=322489d

15:14 <SPG> lkcl master 1c387ac rhombus allwinner/ a31.mdwn a31/hacking_the_mele_a1000g.mdwn * links to a1000g * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c387ac

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15:21 <SPG> lkcl master 491469b rhombus allwinner_a10/news.html * a10 update * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=491469b

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18:34 <SPG> lkcl master 67be817 rhombus realtek/rtd1186.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=67be817

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23:54 <SPG> lkcl master ffbd859 rhombus index.html * update front page a bit * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffbd859

23:54 <SPG> lkcl master 6632ea5 rhombus * Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=6632ea5

23:56 <SPG> lkcl master 45873e8 rhombus faq.mdwn * remove RH reference, replace with qimod * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=45873e8