<Vaevictus_>
hey guys. So I have two Mele M9 set top boxes on their way from china. googling around it seems the a31 soc hasnt got linux available for it yet, but I found an indiegogo campaign where they show a video of an a31 tablet running ubuntu. I asked the guys running the campaign to provide source but they refused. What gives? do you think they are full of shit to attract people to fund their campaign?
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<keebler>
Neal you here? Vaevictus_ they might have refused for fear of canabalizing their work. Not a fan of the A31 at all, and I would abandon it in favor of the A51m coming out soon.
<keebler>
Well, not sure when the A51m will come out actually.
<keebler>
Ignore A51m. I was wrong on the name.
<keebler>
It's a risk of doing opensource + crowdfunding, and I'm not against the practice.
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, they will provide the source once they are selling the product. so you can make your pledge ;)
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, meanwhile you can take advantage of the A31 sdk by Allwinner which is publicly available due to guys from Pengpod, btw.
<keebler>
:)
<keebler>
arokux1: Btw, are you looking for a full fledged server or just a simple NAS?
<arokux1>
keebler, actually all-in-one would be perfect.
<keebler>
We've been toying with the idea of using a Marvell SATA Port Multiplier, but not really comfortable with the RAID solutions.
<keebler>
for the A20-SoM
<arokux1>
keebler, very interesting, since you see there are no such _open_ products on the market.
<Vaevictus_>
keebler: ./ arokux1 , so you know these guys doing the pengopod? the ubuntu they are showing running on a31 in a video is not "faked" then? this is great.they do not seem to be doing well on their funding goal though, good luck to them.
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<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, yes, these guys talk to us in #linux-sunxi, you may check logs, drachensun is the guy from pengpod.
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, he would like you as a customer very much...
<drachensun>
indeed :-)
<drachensun>
yeah, its not faked, thats LXDE running
<Vaevictus_>
thanks I will check. I will pledge some money - not interested in the tablet but will donate something their direction nonetheless
<drachensun>
btw, I'm the pengpod guy
<Vaevictus_>
lol ok ;)
<drachensun>
ah that vaevictus
<drachensun>
thanks I meant
<Vaevictus_>
no offense, but you can understand my scepticism
<drachensun>
hey, I didn't refuse, we are going to have it up eventually but time, y'know
<Vaevictus_>
yeah i understand
<drachensun>
I havent been shaving I've got so little time
<drachensun>
I will give you a warning about those mele boxes
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<Vaevictus_>
im all ears
<drachensun>
we got some, thought they might make a good 'light' dev kit
<drachensun>
problem is, they don't reflash like the tablets
<drachensun>
Mele's method of updating them is with bootable sd cards that run a reflash program
<drachensun>
but making bootable SD cards has pretty very difficult for us, so we abandoned using them awhile back
<drachensun>
and went to just flashing everything internally
<Vaevictus_>
arghhh i kind of assumed they would be like the mele a1000 (ie, piece of piss)
<Vaevictus_>
well thanks for the warning. I kinda bought them just because I found a site listing them at crazy low price, got 2 at 44 dollars a piece :0)
<drachensun>
wow, thats an A31 model?
<drachensun>
I know they have a fix different names for A31 boxes that all look the same to me
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, wow, show the website plz! :)
<Vaevictus_>
yeah, a company I buy my ecigarrete stuff listed them, screwed up and listed them waaaaay below the proper price, i managed to snag two before they raised the price back up to 130$
<Vaevictus_>
it
<Vaevictus_>
the site is fasttech.com but you are too late im afraid
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, :D
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, lucky guy. do you think they will ship to you at that price? (2x44)
<Vaevictus_>
they are already shipped, i've received tracking numbers
<Vaevictus_>
a couple of people on the xbmc forum also got hold of them at that price and theirs shipped too
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, cool
<drachensun>
My mele rep did send me some info about creating the bootable cards
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, btw, there is radxa board with RK3188 if this is interesting for you..
<arokux1>
drachensun, could that be published on sunxi.org wiki?
<drachensun>
and mripard has been able to make bootable SD cards
<drachensun>
I dont see why not
<Vaevictus_>
thanks arokux but if I buy any more "useless linux stuff" my wife will make my life even more of a living hell
<drachensun>
its in bad engrish if I recall but I didn't try to use it
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, you just sell one of the Mele 9 and buy two radxa boards :D
<drachensun>
yeah, I see someone starting writing up creating a card that way but looks like it didn't work
<Vaevictus_>
ahhh nice plan!
<arokux1>
drachensun, ppl will improve it eventually, or maybe not.. who knows. but this could be useful info.
<arokux1>
Vaevictus_, btw, join sunxi.org - ML and IRC. however A31 is not so welcomed there.... so you'd need to send patches by yourself.
<Vaevictus_>
drachensun: just pledged 220 bucks
<Vaevictus_>
good luck
<arokux1>
drachensun, just dump your info and make a notice "it might not work" :)
<drachensun>
thanks, we really appreciate it
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<Vaevictus_>
one last question drachensun - Im guessing you have no video hardware accelaration on that tablet right?
<drachensun>
we have some
<Vaevictus_>
i mean VPU not GPU
<drachensun>
ah
<drachensun>
well the latest cedar stuff from Allwinner supports omx
<Vaevictus_>
*cries* why dont they just release the source for cedarx.it must be full of licence infractionns
<drachensun>
and so the android SDK is setup to build a standard wrapper library that everything can use under Android
<keebler>
arokux1: Yeah, that's the problem (no open RAID/SATA Multplier options).
<keebler>
at least no reliable open options
<drachensun>
so in Linux you would need libhybris still I think
<drachensun>
we tested that with the powervr gpu under nemo/mer
<arokux1>
keebler, nobody did RE so far? :(
<drachensun>
it works, and got 50 fps on the cinematic demo
<drachensun>
I haven't tried to use cedar under linux
<keebler>
arokux1: RE?
<drachensun>
but from everything we have heard the silicon hasn't changed between the A10 and now for this, so the RE they are doing on the A10 should work as well
<drachensun>
Reverse Engineering
<keebler>
Oh
<keebler>
No, not from us yet, and I haven't seen any notable progress.
<arokux1>
keebler, just start a project like lkcl_ did, and in half a year or so you'll have a working driver.
<keebler>
Hah. If only I had the time.
<keebler>
It's hard enough as it is working 3 jobs and being a full time dad.
<arokux1>
:(
<arokux1>
keebler, what port multiplier you think is good for A20-SOM, although without a working driver?
<arokux1>
keebler, what exact hardware part, I mean.
<keebler>
Trying to build up my private company enough so that I can break my two contracts and payback the bonuses.