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<jl2012> gmaxwell: in this paper https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-3-540-72540-4_13.pdf it says signing a message is just a proof of procession, but not proof of knowledge. What is the difference?
<jl2012> and it says proof of possession is not enough to make multisig safe. See the last paragraph of p.229
<luke-jr> Bitcoin signed messages are not a proof of ownership either, note.
<luke-jr> nor possession even
<sipa> luke-jr: it's about knowledge/posession of a private key
<sipa> not of money
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<luke-jr> sipa: but it doesn't show that either, since the holder of the key is expected to sign such messages for non-holders of the key/money
<sipa> luke-jr: it's cryptographtly jargon
<sipa> doesn't have anything to do with social expectations, or even bitcoin
<luke-jr> i c
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