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<kanzure> er, whoops
<kanzure> "Mainstay: enabling trustless immutability in federated sidechains" https://www.commerceblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/commerceblock-mainstay-whitepaper.pdf
<kanzure> "DIZK: A distributed zero knowledge proof system" https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/691
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<roconnor> In https://github.com/sipa/bips/blob/bip-schnorr/bip-schnorr.mediawiki could verification be R = sG + eP instead of R = sG - eP? That way I can avoid a negation operation when doing the verification?
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<sipa> roconnor: we can implement sG = eP + R in the verifier :)
<sipa> actually we probably implement R + eP + (-s)G = 0
<roconnor> Where do you get R?
<roconnor> solve for the y coordinate that isn't a quadratic residue?
<roconnor> In libsecp is it prefereable to use secp256k1_ecmult_multi_var over secp256k1_ecmult during verification for computing a linear combinator of two points?
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<sipa> eithee you decompress r into R, and put it into the equation
<sipa> or you compute R as sG - eP, and compute its x coordinate with r
<sipa> the first is batch verifiable
<roconnor> But say you are just verifying one schnorr signature.
<roconnor> sipa: actually again if the verificaiton equaiton were R = sG + eP, then you could implement -R + sG + eP = 0.
<roconnor> but to compute -R you'd construct the y coordinate this *is* the quadratic residue.
<roconnor> thus removing all negation operations.
<roconnor> during verificaiton. It's a win-win.
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<roconnor> (It seems both secp256k1_ecmult_multi_var and secp256k1_ecmult end up calling secp256k1_ecmult_strauss_wnaf when given a linear combinator of two points to add)
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<andytoshi> roconnor: secp256k1_ecmult_multi_var should effectively call into secp256k1_ecmult for the 2-point case
<andytoshi> ah, you got it
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