#bitcoin-wizards on 2019-08-12 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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15:12 <adiabat> andytoshi: OP_LOOKUP_OUTPUT from the paper doesn't need an additional index, does it?

15:13 <adiabat> The UTXO set is already stored in the db, and that opcode would basically just read the UTXO and return the scriptpubkey

15:13 <adiabat> though really making it into some kind of OP_TXO_UNSPENT_VERIFY would be cleaner

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15:15 <adiabat> ... unless they're talking about *spent* outputs. That's not clear in the paper but seems like utxo set would be enough.

15:19 <sipa> if it's talking about all outputs ever created, it's pointless

15:20 <andytoshi> it may be workable with only the utxoset index, though this would then create weird ordering requirements and require script evaluation to determine the correct ordering

15:20 <andytoshi> and it would result in expireable transactions

15:20 <sipa> if it's talking about the utxo set, it breaks the context freeness of transactions

15:21 <andytoshi> right

15:21 <sipa> that

15:21 <adiabat> oh I'm not saying it's a good idea -- just that I don't think it needs a new index :)

15:21 <andytoshi> lol, then i think you're right :)

15:22 <adiabat> maybe some way to hash a pubkey together with the rest of the transaction, and get the txid in-script

15:22 <adiabat> and then an in-script SPV merkle proof... might be a better way to do the same thing? I dunno

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