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<zmnscpxj__>
crazy idle thought for 2-round MuSig: Since R is a point whose scalar r you know, just sign with the R point and send both R and the signature using R over before computing the s.
<zmnscpxj__>
All parties then validate the signature on R.
<zmnscpxj__>
and to do composable MuSig, you coordinated create an R using MuSig of your R, and sign those as well.
<zmnscpxj__>
ehhhh
<zmnscpxj__>
ignore me
* zmnscpxj__
slinks off
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<belcher_>
zmnscpxj__ can you tell us what the error was?
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<real_or_random>
well MuSig is simply not in threshold setting. you can't cite everything. fwiw, we're getting in touch in them, they came up with the same trick of doing 2-round sigs with parallel security as we have in an unpublished draft of a simple 2-round musig variant
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<instagibbs>
very cool
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<zmnscpxj__>
belcher_: I have no idea how to prove anything in cryptography to convince myself it works, so I should probably hold off on inventing novel cryptography
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