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<rajiv_> /msg NickServ
<rajiv_> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
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<rajiv7374> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
<rajiv7374> `hi
<rajiv7374> I just got my cubieboard 2, was trying to assemble the case, the screws seem to be very difficult to fix
<rajiv7374> any tips
<rajiv7374> hello FR
<rajiv7374> how did you move your root filesystem to the SSD?
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<focus> rajiv7374: use dd command - lots of stuff here http://www.gplsquared.com/eoma_boot/eoma_boot.html
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<buZz> weird focus
<buZz> that page has mostly information about using PMMA :)
<focus> buZz: ?
<focus> what is a PMMA?
<buZz> acrylic / plexiglas / acrylate
<focus> ah you mean case
<buZz> yes
<focus> if you got laser cutter can make own box if a couple of minutes
<focus> all the dxf files are there
<focus> aliexpress do laser cutters for about $800 these days
<focus> 40W units
<focus> CO2 based
<buZz> i just dont see the relevance
<buZz> we have 80W lasercutter at the local fablab
<buZz> those dxf files should be on thingiverse, and all the information removed with just a link
<focus> relevance - easy to damage boards without case
<focus> thingiverse - yeah but the guy sold out ?
<focus> or is it still open source
<buZz> licenses are still upholded
<focus> good to know - we be getting a 3d printer soon - the formlabs one!
<buZz> the resin printer
<focus> 25 micron accuracy - made my boss think - ordered on the spot
<buZz> resin is pretty fragile
<buZz> compared to normal 3d printers
<buZz> you cant print a 3d printer with a resin printer
<focus> good enough for sales staff to show their samples
<focus> after a paint job :)
<buZz> i like to print functional prototypes
<buZz> stuff that can go into production straight away
<focus> i'd make the 3d printer from laser cut plywood
<buZz> for me this makes a lot more sense
<focus> a lot quicker to make a duplicate
<buZz> sure
<focus> i bought parts - but got lazy
<buZz> but its not the same
<buZz> i want 3d printed 3d printers
<buZz> nothing else
<focus> not easy to 3d print bearings and nozzles etc - so gave up
<focus> compromise - fastest way to make a home brew 3d printer is to laser print it
<focus> laser cut it i meant
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<focus> i'd love to make a duplicate of the formlabs machine
<focus> there are no patents on stl printers like the formlabs machines
<focus> i know of at least 2 other variants using similar techniques going for kickstarter/indiegogo funding
<buZz> i have 3d printed bearings, they work quite well
<focus> stick a cubie2, sata disk, and color LCD - ssh into it and let it print man!
<focus> we bought a 3d printed bearing sample - though it works lets face its not a real bearing :(
<buZz> that one works very nice
<focus> i was trying to get rid of the bearings and replace it with ball and angle steel - but looking in aliexpress the bearings are only $1 or less - so again gave up thinking about bearings
<focus> 53451 is very nice - its creator is on the ball
<buZz> emmett yes
<buZz> he designs nice stuff
<buZz> anyway, publish your dxf designs on thingiverse
<buZz> more people can see them that way
<buZz> no reason to keep them private on some unfindable website ;)
<focus> will do
<focus> he's wrong about the gear profile
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<focus> it needs to be an involute profile, and such a profile with jam if it has no axle
<buZz> cool, make it
<focus> when i get the formlabs printer the resources will become available - then i go make some 3d models and try it so that it has some engineering precision
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<focus> hmmm i want one of these http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:109716
<Thihi> Make one where you can mount a cubieboard and a small display.
<focus> yes - i solve how to make small lcd work for eoma - which is similar to cubieboard2
<focus> the lipo batteries are about $15
<buZz> i have endless supply of free li+ cells :)
<buZz> collecting broken laptop batteries, usually just one out of 6/9 cells is broken
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<focus> good idea - i got at least 4 broken laptops to salvage the batteries from
<focus> and a few tablets
<buZz> i have one of those 25 usd balanced li+ chargers, they work pretty well
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<focus> fit a camera and then it can read QR codes
<focus> fit a wifi so it can pull up meaningful information relating to the qr code
<focus> make a little longer so that it convers a larger part of the arm
<focus> apparently heating your wrist can make your whole body warm - might put in a little nichrome wire there :)
<buZz> i have made a wristmounted keyboard
<buZz> works by typing in chords
<buZz> its a layout made by NASA
<focus> i was going to use a pen and the onscreen keyboard - keep the weight down - may be use a second display as the keyboard
<focus> a second display is vital - it can play movies while first display is doing work :)
<focus> having 2 cubies no issue
<focus> just have to watch battery drain :)
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<focus> buZz: typing in chords - is for astronuts with inflated gloves - i don't plan on moving slowly like an astronut and operate chords :)
<buZz> its actually quite quick
<buZz> you can do ~10WPM
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<focus> buZz: another option is 9D accelerometers coming out - they have tilt, acceleration and magnetometer in all 3 axis
<focus> useful for keyboar and gesturing
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<focus> a bit expensive - about $20 at the moment
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<focus> some other ones don't have the acceleration - being 6D - but cost $0.5, I2C and could probably do the same things
<buZz> focus: i bought a 6D one for 3 usd
<buZz> for a midi instrument
<buZz> my 6d one is i2c and has accelerometer and gyroscope
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<buZz> MPU6050
<buZz> also you can add magnetometer to it over another i2c bus
<buZz> and do 9D calc in DSP
<focus> LSM303C - not out yet but very cheap and small 6D
<buZz> MPU6050 is 4x4mm
<buZz> i dont know why you would need smaller
<focus> hmmm... add in the chips to get 9D - hmmm... the sensors not being at the same point in space causes havoc with the computations
<focus> ah yes the invensys MPU6050 - same guys do the 9D device
<focus> 4x4 ok
<buZz> yeah MPU9150 iirc
<buZz> i think those are ~8 usd
<buZz> and also 4x4mm
<focus> $8 where? aliexpress has $12 cheapest (after postage)
<focus> i'd buy 10 and do some prototyping for some humanoid robots i build
<buZz> hmm yeah , sorry, seems more expensive than i remember
<buZz> 14 euro is cheapest i find
<buZz> oh wow, those 9150 are 3x3mm
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<federico3> is there any tool to build a Debian image for cubieboard?
<buZz> debootstrap
<buZz> same tool for building debian images for any platform
<federico3> I'm familiar with it - but what about the kernel and u-boot?
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<buZz> you need to build those seperately
<buZz> linux-sunxi.org has a lot of howtos on it
<federico3> pity :(
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<buZz> any tool you would make for it, would require changes for every version and iteration of development in kernel and uboot
<buZz> not everybody wants the same kernel features etc
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<federico3> I was hoping we were getting close to having some stability
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<n01> federico3: stability has nothing to do with crosscompiling rootfs, kernel and uboot
<federico3> I mean stability in the development process and toolchains
<n01> you are looking for something like buildroot
<n01> in buildroot we already have a preliminary support for cb and cb2
<buZz> buildroot is not debian though :P
<federico3> hum, oddly buildroot is not packaged in Debian
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<n01> yeah, I know
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<Vanfanel> Hi guys. I'm thinking about getting myself a cubie, but I wanted to know...
<Vanfanel> How well does EGL/GLES work on the MALI driver?
<Vanfanel> Enough for X-less RetroArch like on an Rpi? No need for advanced shaders, of course
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<xeloweb> hello
<FR^2> ¡Hola!
<xeloweb> any here can help me what nand are on cubietruck ? 2Gb or 8Gb some sites show me other informations
<FR^2> afaik cubietruck contains 8GBytes of nand, but I can't prove it.
<xeloweb> wiki says 2gb
<FR^2> where?
<nils_2> and it says 2GB
<xeloweb> right
<FR^2> watterott.com tells 8GByte nand
<FR^2> it has 2GBytes of ram
<xeloweb> say 8gb nand
<FR^2> nils_2: That link doesn't tell anything about the size of the nand, does it?
<xeloweb> Frank you from germany ?
<FR^2> Yes, I am.
<xeloweb> me too ^^
<xeloweb> do you have skype ?
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<xeloweb> my engl. is not realy good :D
<nils_2> i will hopefully receive my cubieboard3 by tomorrow, then i can check
<FR^2> Yes, but I don't use NSA's most favourite communication sniffing service
<xeloweb> :P
<FR^2> ;)
<xeloweb> u get query
<nils_2> FR^2: scroll page down: Flash/NAND 4GB 3.4GB 2GB
<FR^2> Ah :)
<FR^2> definitely wrong information.
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<nils_2> i will tell you tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, when i receive my board :-)
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<xeloweb> me too ^^
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<nils_2> mainly i want to use the board to run xbmc on it. any experiences?
<xeloweb> xbmc .p
<nils_2> xeloweb: lets see who's dhl driver is faster :D
<xeloweb> me too but i read if not work atm fpr h264
<xeloweb> German dhl are faster :P
<xeloweb> nils from ?
<nils_2> deutschländ :p
<xeloweb> lol
<xeloweb> skype ?
<xeloweb> :D
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<xeloweb> any here have test h264 on cubieboard oder cubietruck ?
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<wolfy> I am going too. So far playing from cmdline was disappointing
<wolfy> vlc freezes after a few frames
<xeloweb> :S
<wolfy> chromium ( in linaro ) worked fine.
<xeloweb> i will work with xbmc
<wolfy> i can watch mjpg streams from axis cameras with pretty decent performance
<wolfy> i followed http://linux-sunxi.org/VLC but , as I said, vlc freezes
<wolfy> actually the same happens with stock vlc from debian 7.2
<xeloweb> mali drivers are not ready yet
<ssvb> xeloweb: not ready for what?
<xeloweb> to play h264
<ssvb> xeloweb: mali drivers are not used for decoding x264 at all
<ssvb> *h264
<xeloweb> what drivers are used ?
<ssvb> cedar
<xeloweb> what ever this are :P
<xeloweb> ok
<xeloweb> and this not work atm right ?
<ssvb> here is the media formats support status - http://linux-sunxi.org/CedarXVideoRenderingChart
<xeloweb> what you think how many time to get this work good
<xeloweb> Overview of cedarX video rendering issues on A10 << A10 and with a20 the same ?
<Vanfanel> have you guys tried RetroArch on the CubieBoard?
<ssvb> xeloweb: A10 and A20 use the same CedarX hardware, but there are some minor differences in Cortex-A7 caching policy, which may break buggy software drivers
<xeloweb> do you think will fix next time ?
<xeloweb> or have i buy crap for use with xbmc ?
<ssvb> so A20 is a little bit more buggy now, but in the long run they should be the same for video decoding
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<ssvb> what kind of crap?
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<xeloweb> any here know how i can find the cedarX repo to see curent status and work ?
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<mnemoc> xeloweb: see the linux-sunxi wiki
<xeloweb> i dont look for a wiki i look the current dev status
<mnemoc> it's documented in the wiki, by the devs
<xeloweb> this document are some months old
<xeloweb> stop dev ?
<mnemoc> no, it's pretty active
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<mnemoc> both the RE and the wrappings for blobs
<xeloweb> hmm
<mnemoc> xeloweb: but that's better asked in #linux-sunxi
<xeloweb> is working on fix h264 playback problems ?
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<xeloweb> but not work with xbmc or ?
<mnemoc> works on any vdpau compatible player
<xeloweb> i see you from germany
<xeloweb> can i write query ?
<mnemoc> i'm not a cedarx dev, and I connect from a server in a german DC
<xeloweb> hm dont speak german ? ^^
<mnemoc> nope
<xeloweb> :(
<mnemoc> english and spanish only ;-)
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<steev> mnemoc: i speak the english too!
<mnemoc> congrats!
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