<tabemann>
I need to figure out how to make the numworks calculator's flash work properly
<tabemann>
because it turns out that the numworks calculator has two sections of flash
<tabemann>
a 64K internal flash
<tabemann>
and a 8MB external flash
<tabemann>
the only solution I can think of is to put the kernel in the internal flash
<tabemann>
and the user-compiled code in the external flash
<tp>
yet Mecrisp-Stellaris runs on the Numworks ?
<tabemann>
which is kinda a waste of internal flash
<tp>
Mecrisp-Stellaris wont run code from the external flash
<tabemann>
as I figured
<tp>
I asked Matthias once about using external flash and he said 'nope'
<tp>
Mecrisp-Stellaris is afterall a Forth for cortex-m small embedded and 8MB external flash is something else alltogether
<tabemann>
the problem is that zeptoforth as it is on the F407 goes above the $FFFF mark
<tp>
perhaps Zeptoforth's mission should be 'a Forth for large memory systems' ?
<tabemann>
one solution I thought of is this
<tabemann>
there are 256K of RAM
<tabemann>
that is more than plenty
<tabemann>
I could copy the lower 192K of flash ROM into RAM
<tabemann>
and still have 64K of RAM left
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<proteusguy>
tp, think concert tickets for reserved seats.
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<tp>
proteusguy, serial,batch,lot,controlled
<proteusguy>
lot is actually pretty good because it's in reference to auctioning such things.
<proteusguy>
I think I'll use that. thanks.
<tp>
np, glad to assist :)
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<proteusguy>
Anyone been paying attention to this cool retro project that seems to be gaining traction? https://rc2014.co.uk/
<tp>
it's amazing how programmers love retro projects. As a electronics tech I had to build and fix gear with Z80's in the early 1980's and I'd perfer to not see another one. To me it's like buying a Stanley Steamer instead of a Tesla
<tp>
Ive fully embraced the latest MCU's with Forth and I feel like I'm living in the Golden Age of Microprocessors now
<siraben>
proteusguy: Seems interesting, haven't heard about it.
<siraben>
The BASIC must surely be interpreted.
<proteusguy>
yes of course - as it was back then.
<proteusguy>
siraben, you should get your forth running on that z-80. :-)
<proteusguy>
tp, someone did a 6809 board for it. Nothing about it is specific to z-80.
<siraben>
Haha, wouldn't be hard to port my Forth at all.
<tp>
proteusguy, it's just me and the fact I was there then and had to work with them. Same with the 6809
<tp>
for those that only know then from history I understand there may be some retro alure
<tp>
it's probably the same with everything
<siraben>
Wait a few decades and we might see retro projects on x86
<tp>
i remember the 6809 came out in the more advanced commercial video games like 'defender'
<tp>
I guess the games manufacturers were waiting on something more advanced than the z80 for those kind of games
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<proteusguy>
I loved the 6809.
<proteusguy>
I really didn't like Z80. 6502 was ok but funky but I was an Apple ][ hacker. 68000 was pretty nice but 6809 was the sweet spot for 8 bit for me.
<proteusguy>
siraben, no one feels nostalgic for any of the x86 machines...
<proteusguy>
nasty instruction set architecture.
<siraben>
proteusguy: Indeed
<siraben>
ARM's pretty nice IMO, the three argument instructions are good for compilers to work with.
<proteusguy>
I just never could like ARM. RISCV is a serious improvement but I still don't love it. I also loathed PIC & 8051 but liked Atmel a lot.
<proteusguy>
Naturally much of that is personal taste.
<boru>
Agreed regarding RISC-V, althought it still needs to mature a bit more.
<proteusguy>
boru, I'm slightly concerned that they're standardizing a bit too soon - before they've had enough development experience to know it's right. but all in all it's fairly well done yet still a bit complex to be truly RISC.
<boru>
Well, having gone through the specs, from a hw point of view, it's very well thought out, but I occasionally feel like the sw side is a bit of a poor relation; I would really like to see more traffic on standardising the EABI, for example, specifically interrupt requirements and whatnot. I understand that they're very busy, however, and it'll all come in good time.
<boru>
Having said that, what implementations have taped out are fun to play around with.
<boru>
As well as adding bits onto the softcores, that is.
<tp>
proteusguy, I'm a 6800 lover as well
<tp>
boru ! :)
<boru>
Afternoon, tp.
<tp>
afternoon boru, nice to see ya
<boru>
Likewise. I am not on IRC a lot these last few weeks (and mostly on other nets, at that).
<tp>
I'm here and on #mecrisp but the traffic is always minimal
<boru>
Such is the price for high SNR, I guess.
<tp>
boru, yeah, and in my old age I'm fine with quietitude
<boru>
Fillies giving you a headache, eh?
<tp>
boru, nah, Ive been a bachelor the last 5 years
<boru>
What a productive life you must lead!
<tp>
yes, it's nice to be free to follow ones own projects without interuption
<tp>
my Forth progress has been pretty good, for a technician
<boru>
Well, I'll have a porting project for you soon, I hope.
<tp>
boru, I'm making up a jig for my next round of copper rivets tomorrow, then I can do a page on the project I'll build with it
<tp>
basically it's hand wired, deadbugged,two pcb with milled cavities and copper rivets for wired connections
<tp>
boru, interesting, I cant wait to see it
<boru>
It'll be finished Soon™
<tp>
heheh
<tp>
yeah
<tp>
the only thing about being old is it takes 10x longer to do the things I did in my youth
<boru>
Well, no burning rush.
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<tp>
yeah, all things in time
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<X-Scale>
tp: you probably do them now with more quality than you did back in the day though, and that takes extra time and effort.
<tp>
X-Scale, perhaps, I've been slowly improving all my life, but as a tech I never cut corners, time was always irrelevant to me
<tp>
X-Scale, I'm sure I used all the thought available to me at the time ;-)