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<marcan> florolf: yeah there was some faffing around with the pinout on the sync connector, I'm not surprised I got it wrong
<marcan> pretty sure I *tried* to get it right but... :-)
<marcan> I guess we should swap the pins
<marcan> that does involve a production change but... it's so stupidly trivial I don't even think it's worth calling that revC2
<marcan> whitequark: thoughts?
<marcan> we'd be breaking the a priori "it's fine to push to the branches if it doesn't change the PCB" rule but... the change is trivial (pad shape and silkscreen pin1 indicator)
<whitequark> the schematic doesn't change, right
<whitequark> then i *guess* it's fine
<marcan> it does, we swap the pins
<marcan> we swap the pins everywhere basically, so that the physical layout does not change
<whitequark> well then it has to be revC2 i think
<whitequark> it'd be pretty confusing otherwise
<marcan> would it?
<whitequark> if someone is wiring up the connector
<whitequark> i mean, i'd probably look at the connector on the schematic when populating the mating part
<marcan> the silkscreen on the bottom is correct, and that's way easier to look at than the schematic
<marcan> and that will not change with this
<marcan> I mean the way it is right now, if you look at the schematic and try to populate the connector following the pin1 designator in the housing, you'd get it wrong
<marcan> in revC1
<marcan> we'd be fixing that
<whitequark> yes, and that warrants a schematic bump, i think
<whitequark> precisely because you'd get it wrong
<marcan> but if we call that revC2, then someone with a revC1 will try to follow the revC1 schematic
<marcan> and get it wrong anyway
<whitequark> :/
<whitequark> ok
<whitequark> point
<whitequark> i guess we're fucked either way so i don't object
<marcan> yeah it's just stupid
<marcan> but really what we're saying here is "oops the revC1 schematic and board were wrong all along, we're fixing them and just ignore the silkscreen pin1 (can't get it wrong as long as you have the right connector anyway) and you'll be fine"
<marcan> and then nobody will get confused
<marcan> like revC1 is mechanically and electrically okay, the schematic and silkscreen pin1 indicators are just incorrect descriptions of it
<marcan> so we can just fix those and call it a day
<whitequark> fine
<marcan> (was revB right? I guess I should check that...)
<marcan> well that one had the wrong part anyway for that connector
<marcan> I'm pretty sure I kept the physical part the same as revB, but I'll double check
<marcan> if the pin#s are wrong for revB then that's worth an equivalent fix
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<florolf> marcan: afaict, revB has the same bom line for J4 as revC1. revA uses another connector (640455-2 from TE) though, which *does* number the pins differently
<florolf> all follow the same idea (angled, latch on top) though. there seems to have been an issue with a connector that has the latch on the bottom side? i didn't come across that yet.
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<whitequark> i might be misremembering
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<kc8apf> whitequark: I can give you my Facedancer patches if you want them before Kate has a chance to merge them
<whitequark> kc8apf: it's probably fine, the project I need this for is very slow anyway
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