20:06 <microcolonel> This is so cool.

20:07 <john_cephalopoda> Hey.

21:15 <pie__> o/

21:36 <john_cephalopoda> The site is down for me.

21:36 <john_cephalopoda> (Wiki)

21:46 <microcolonel> yeah

21:46 <microcolonel> topic is from 2013

21:47 <microcolonel> no idea how recently the thing died

22:05 <john_cephalopoda> Probably between 2013 and 2014.

22:05 <SpeedEvil> archive.org

22:05 <SpeedEvil> ++

22:05 <john_cephalopoda> Latest logs are from 2014.

22:05 <john_cephalopoda> Oh, hey SpeedEvil

22:06 <SpeedEvil> hey

22:06 <pie__> i could have sworn that stilll worked relatively recently

22:07 <john_cephalopoda> pie__: IRC logs are from that time, so the logging bot has been down for at least that long.

22:07 <pie__> aha

22:07 <john_cephalopoda> The website has maybe just continued existing as a zombie until it broke.

22:15 <pie__> lol:

22:15 <pie__> <azonenberg_work> i dont even remember where it was hosted

22:15 <pie__> <azonenberg_work> i dont think i've touched that in 5+ years

22:15 <pie__> <pie__> azonenberg_work, homecmos wiki is down :p

22:15 <pie__> rekt

22:24 <X-Scale> single points of failure are a total turn off

22:26 <jn__> we should run all our wikis in git repos with multiple mirrors

22:26 <jn__> (half kidding)

22:28 <pie__> jn__, half serious

22:29 <jn__> ^

22:29 <pie__> im actually mildly curious about a p2p wiki now but busy with other stuff

22:29 <pie__> eh probably "just" have multiple nodes syncing to eachother

22:30 <john_cephalopoda> p2p wiki?

22:30 <pie__> i'd almost be up for hosting a wiki but i dont have any hosting experience or money to pay for aws

22:30 <pie__> john_cephalopoda, idk, just gluing random words together :P

22:30 <jn__> git potentially has some usability problems with non-programmers, unless you have a fancy web editor

22:31 <jn__> but it's very easy to mirror, which saves availablity

22:31 <pie__> could just have the web wiki autimatically mirrored to git periodically?

22:31 <jn__> (github is probably an acceptable Fancy Web Editor in many cases, IMHO)

22:32 <jn__> pie__: i'd strongly prefer solutions that are based on git over those where git is tacked-on

22:32 <john_cephalopoda> I can host a wiki.

22:32 <john_cephalopoda> I got a server.

22:32 <john_cephalopoda> I got a domain.

22:33 <jn__> i.e. github pages: cool. mediawiki + scraper that imports into git: meh.

22:33 <john_cephalopoda> dokuwiki?

22:33 <pie__> jn__, i dont disagree

22:33 <pie__> by the way i quite like the wiki theme the nixo people are using http://nixos.wiki/

22:33 <pie__> channel is #nixos-wiki

22:33 <jn__> (oh, i meant to say github wiki)

22:34 <jn__> john_cephalopoda: i never looked at the technical details of that

22:34 <pie__> not a huge fan of githubs built in wiki think

22:34 <pie__> thing

22:34 <john_cephalopoda> The problem of mediawiki is, that it relies on sql.

22:34 <john_cephalopoda> When your database has issues, your whole mediawiki dies.

22:34 <jn__> pie__: IDK it kinda does its job and doesn't immediately look horrible

22:35 <pie__> ¯\_(:/)_/¯

22:35 <X-Scale> http://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Wiki

22:44 <pie__> http://fed.wiki.org/ looks kind of interesting

22:45 <pie__> linked from the p2p wiki page

22:46 <jn__> what the... it feels like tweetdeck

23:33 <john_cephalopoda> I could set up a github repo, to which anybody can push wiki pages in markdown format. I'd write a script to regularly upload those to the server, where they can be read like a normal wiki.

23:36 <john_cephalopoda> Git repos don't easily get lost, allow anybody to add a pull request and by using markdown, they can be easily ported to elsewhere.

23:38 <pie__> i dont use github

23:39 <john_cephalopoda> I could also set it up on gitlab or elsewhere.

23:40 <john_cephalopoda> Would take me probably ~20-30 minutes to set it all up.

23:42 <pie__> well, i've nothing against it other than that it's a tiny bit tedious

23:42 <pie__> and certainly better than no wiki at all :P

23:43 <john_cephalopoda> I don't think that editing a markdown file and git pushing it is much harder than editing a wiki via the web interface.