#ipfs on 2015-05-13 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-05-04 20:29 jbenet changed the topic of #ipfs to: IPFS - InterPlanetary File System - https://github.com/jbenet/ipfs -- channel logged at https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- code of conduct at https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md -- sprint at https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/7

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00:00 <Blame> well the two problems are browser with IP/stack: can you get adoption? using a proxy: Can you convince users to run them?

00:00 <whyrusleeping> why not both?

00:00 <whyrusleeping> no need to limit ourselves to a single solution

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00:01 <whyrusleeping> a javascript ipfs impl can use the browser impl, while other users can have proxies

00:01 <Blame> well right now my plan is to go a long way on chrome.exe --disable-web-security

00:01 <whyrusleeping> if either of them get enough adoption, all of the other users benefit

00:03 <whyrusleeping> mmmmmm.... my latest PR makes bitswap so fast

00:03 <Blame> hey: jbenet and whyrusleeping. I'm actually starting the push on getting the "generic" dht project going

00:04 <whyrusleeping> Blame: oh yeah?

00:04 <Blame> It looks like first targets will be Go and Python

00:04 <Blame> This week is a documention push, I'd love you to take a look in the next few days

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00:05 <Blame> https://github.com/UrDHT

00:05 <Blame> im still in the barfing and editing content stage

00:06 <Blame> and I've managed to get 3-4 people to help me

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00:06 <Blame> this si ready for first thoughts: https://github.com/UrDHT/DevelopmentPlan/blob/master/Network.md

00:09 <Blame> jbenet: I'm planing on referenceing and using MultiHash a lot.

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00:09 <whyrusleeping> Blame: what type of DHT is this based off of?

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00:09 <whyrusleeping> what distance metrics, or ID assignment are you using?

00:10 <Blame> All of them

00:10 <Blame> essentially UrDHT will likely just run off a bound 2d euclidian plane.

00:11 <Blame> but is intended to be forked and have the metrics easily replaced

00:11 <whyrusleeping> interesting... will that actually work in practice? having a kademlia type DHT interacting with a chord-like DHT?

00:11 <Blame> so the project goal is a base UrDHT implimentation then a lot of forks of that impilmenetion as different DHTs

00:12 <whyrusleeping> ah, so you arent aiming to have the different implementations interop?

00:12 <Blame> yes and not

00:12 <Blame> inter- metric DHTs wont interop

00:13 <Blame> but I want to impliment UrDHT in multiple languages

00:13 <Blame> so if you use the same node-logic and network protocol in multiple language implimentions then they should work fine

00:15 <Blame> I need a way to prototype new metrics and test them

00:15 <Blame> my partner needs a way to baseline compre DHTs against each other

00:15 <Blame> this solves both problems

00:16 <Blame> And provides a usefull tool to the community

00:17 <Blame> What is your overhead for key-value store and retrival right now?

00:18 <whyrusleeping> overhead in what sense?

00:18 <whyrusleeping> as far as latency?

00:18 <Blame> how much latency and iteration time

00:18 <Blame> latency shoudl dominate

00:18 <whyrusleeping> ah, for getting a block? or a DHT put?

00:18 <whyrusleeping> /dht get

00:18 <Blame> my goal is to have a DHT you could easily swap into

00:19 <Blame> without preformance loss

00:19 <whyrusleeping> for retreival its a standard kademlia search

00:19 <Blame> O(log(n) we hope) hops dominated by network latency?

00:19 <whyrusleeping> yeap

00:20 <whyrusleeping> log(n) with a moderately large base

00:20 <Blame> well, some DHTs could do better but at higher maintence costs

00:20 <Blame> What is your current resonable throughput? writes/gets per second?

00:21 <Blame> well, I really want to know writes/sec, gets/sec, seeks/sec

00:22 <Blame> what is your nominclature for "give me a decent hop for this addess"?

00:22 <whyrusleeping> findClosestPeers(id)

00:23 <whyrusleeping> concurrent writes/gets? or sequential?

00:23 <whyrusleeping> generally its 2-3*networklatency

00:23 <Blame> incoming, so sequential

00:24 <Blame> so you essentially not having concurrent stores anre retrives?

00:24 <Blame> but have the facility to do so

00:24 <Blame> ?

00:25 <whyrusleeping> well, everything happens concurrently

00:26 <whyrusleeping> i guess maybe i'm not following exactly what youre asking

00:27 <Blame> so I want to store a record in the DHT

00:27 <Blame> I do O(log(n)) "seeks" to find the location

00:27 <Blame> then O(1) put() to actually store the records

00:28 <Blame> in practice (or what is your preformance goal), how fast should you be able to handle incoming seek, put, and get requests?

00:29 <Blame> or better: how much time are you allowed to spend processing a recived request before replying?

00:30 <whyrusleeping> ooh, so we do 'FindClosestPeers(key)'

00:31 <whyrusleeping> and as the closest peers come in, we store to them

00:40 <Blame> I'm assuming a wall of text is incoming?

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00:41 <whyrusleeping> oh, no. that was it

00:41 <whyrusleeping> lol

00:41 <whyrusleeping> but i see i missed a question

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00:42 <whyrusleeping> if another node does a PUT or GET on my node, it happens almost instantaneously

00:48 <Blame> ok. I'll just do my best and compare values of "almost instantly" later

00:48 <whyrusleeping> lol

00:48 <Blame> how does most of the ipfs code interact with the DHT?

00:48 <whyrusleeping> via the routing interface

00:48 <whyrusleeping> https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/routing/routing.go

00:49 <Blame> something like ("jobname", data, callback_channel?) ?

00:50 <whyrusleeping> uhm... yeah, you could make that abstraction

00:50 <Blame> god I have trouble keeping tack of all the jobs "context" does

00:50 <Blame> in your code

00:50 <whyrusleeping> lol, we just use it for cancellations

00:51 <whyrusleeping> its 'here is a thing that will tell you if you need to return immediately'

00:51 <Blame> im starting to seriously learn go now

00:52 <Blame> I could literally impliment this interface.

00:53 <Blame> could you explain: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/routing/routing.go#L20

00:54 <Blame> i think it meansL fuction takes in a context, a key, and an integer and returns a channel that it consumes of type peerinfo

00:55 <whyrusleeping> so, it takes a context for cancellation

00:55 <whyrusleeping> the key youre finding providers of

00:55 <whyrusleeping> and the number of providers you want

00:56 <whyrusleeping> it then returns you a channel that you can read providers off of

00:56 <Blame> ok, so I got the direction of the channel backwards

00:56 <Blame> what exactly does <-chan mean?

00:58 <Blame> ->chan does not seem to be a thing

01:01 <whyrusleeping> <-chan means read only

01:01 <whyrusleeping> chan<- means write only

01:02 <Blame> aha

01:02 <Blame> thanks

01:03 <Blame> what do you think about useing http/REST as the inter-node communication protocol?

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01:10 <whyrusleeping> we are using protobufs

01:10 <whyrusleeping> using http/REST wouldnt be terrible

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01:10 <whyrusleeping> it would be nice for more easily debugging things

01:12 <Blame> my argument is and easy of implimentation and it lets me build in-browser application

01:12 <Blame> but you run into issues with same-origin

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01:21 <jbenet> hey Blame-- sounds good. lmk if you need anything from me.

01:21 <jbenet> multihash, and might i extoll the virtues of our lord multiaddr, too

01:22 <jbenet> whyrusleeping: EOF-- easier? -- also, suspend seems complicated, what's the use?

01:26 <Blame> Are you securing any DHT maitence messages/

01:27 <jbenet> not yet,

01:27 <Blame> that would be a reason to not use REST

01:28 <Blame> if you are planning on encrypting message

01:28 <Blame> if you are just signing them, then it would be fine

01:33 <jbenet> whyrusleeping: on the listener bug-- any idea why it isn't parallelizing?

01:34 <jbenet> i think it is because https://github.com/jbenet/go-peerstream/blob/master/conn.go#L180 happens on the same thread: https://github.com/jbenet/go-peerstream/blob/master/listener.go#L89

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01:52 <jbenet> whyrusleeping: did you see https://travis-ci.org/ipfs/go-ipfs/jobs/62211476 /

01:53 <whyrusleeping> jbenet: to do streams, you have to prefix each message anyways, you can just include a sentinel value in that header to signal that the stream is closing

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01:54 <whyrusleeping> and suspend would be used for closing a connection, with the intention of opening it later

01:54 <whyrusleeping> so it keeps the underlying TCP connection open, but allows you to resume later without having to redial, or redo the handshake

01:55 <whyrusleeping> re: listener bug, i can debug in a little bit

01:56 <whyrusleeping> the testlarge swarm gets faster in my PR, should fix that hang

01:56 <whyrusleeping> although, maybe its a different issue that i just havent run into?

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01:58 <whyrusleeping> jbenet: really easy way to check the listener thing is to netcat to the listener, and the SIGQUIT the daemon and check where the listener is hanging

02:00 <jbenet> Prefix each message? Ah you're thinking pbs-- no I'm thinking independent-- arbitrary streams. You hand control to something else and then you have no idea when it's done unless it tells you :/ (afaict, but not sure)

02:01 <whyrusleeping> hrm... so youre not talking about writing a stream muxer?

02:01 <jbenet> Resuming handshake should be doable independent of resuming tcp. Tcp cons are hard to resume because middle boxes garbage collect mappings (must send keepalives)

02:02 <jbenet> Also this is what quic is all about. Better maybe to defer to quic

02:02 <whyrusleeping> ah, yeah

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04:52 <whyrusleeping> jbenet: 1218 pls

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05:02 <whyrusleeping> squished

05:02 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed refactor/bitswap from cece493 to 0e20492: http://git.io/vUoT1

05:02 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap 0e20492 Jeromy: implement peermanager to control outgoing messages...

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05:16 <whyrusleeping> jbenet_: irc troubles?

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05:21 <jbenet> mmmmm

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05:39 <wking> local test suite is giving me:

05:39 <wking> util/sadhack/godep.go:8: can't find import: "github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/Godeps/_workspace/src/github.com/whyrusleeping/iptb"

05:39 <wking> Anyone have ideas?

05:40 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] tv42 pushed 3 new commits to pin: http://git.io/vUomF

05:40 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/pin e28153c Tommi Virtanen: Copy-pasto

05:40 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/pin bd7c74d Tommi Virtanen: pin: Simplify code

05:40 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/pin bd19fdf Tommi Virtanen: pin: Explain storeMultiset inner workings

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05:41 <wking> $GOPATH/src/github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/Godeps/_workspace/src/github.com/whyrusleeping/iptb/main.go exists has a SHA-1 of c0081a11e618856a2bf6df30caeb6c8b6c3351b8

05:42 <whyrusleeping> hrm... maybe because its a binary package?

05:42 <whyrusleeping> thats weird

05:42 <whyrusleeping> jbenet: i'm incrementing the 'godeps sucks' counter

05:42 <whyrusleeping> 2/100

05:44 <wking> I think jbenet's counter was a bit higher by now ;)

05:45 <wking> 5/100 here: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/1209#issuecomment-100104343

05:48 <whyrusleeping> ah, so we're at 6/100 minimum

05:48 * whyrusleeping debates adding the counter to pinbot

05:49 <wking> yeah. I'm just blowing away my local sadhack directory, since I can't see how that error would be related to my resolver work :p

05:49 <whyrusleeping> yeah, it shouldnt be

05:49 <whyrusleeping> just make sure you dont accidentaly remove it in git

05:49 <wking> yeah

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06:47 <oltin> (hi this is rht)

06:48 <whyrusleeping> oltin: hey there!

06:50 <oltin> first reaction at ipfs is how this is going to replace afs if this is bound to happen

06:51 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to refactor/bitswap: http://git.io/vUo4d

06:51 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap 81d4c89 Jeromy: update comments and reintroduce test

06:51 <gwillen> oltin: oho, an afs user! \o How did you come to encounter that particular suffering? ;-)

06:51 <gwillen> (CMU, MIT, or other?)

06:53 <oltin> years ago (the second on the list)

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06:53 <gwillen> aha, *nods*

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07:01 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet created peerstream-update (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vUo0A

07:01 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/peerstream-update d25147d Juan Batiz-Benet: go-peerstream update (accept concurrency)...

07:01 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet opened pull request #1230: go-peerstream update (accept concurrency) (master...peerstream-update) http://git.io/vUo0p

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07:43 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet closed pull request #1230: go-peerstream update (accept concurrency) (master...peerstream-update) http://git.io/vUo0p

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08:44 <cryptix> gozala: if you want some hands-on help with ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/1214 let me know

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14:29 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] tv42 pushed 1 new commit to pin: http://git.io/vU6pY

14:29 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/pin 676ae6a Tommi Virtanen: sharness: Follow the calling convention expected, actual

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15:27 <bigbluehat> I'm going through the IPFS readme and hit a snag

15:27 <bigbluehat> > hash=`echo "I <3 IPFS -"\`whoami\` | ipfs add -q`

15:27 <bigbluehat> made this file: I <3 IPFS -`whoami`

15:27 <bigbluehat> copying from http://ipfs.io/docs/getting-started/

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15:30 <bigbluehat> changing it to hash=`echo "I <3 IPFS -$(whoami) | ipfs add -q` worked fine

15:30 <bigbluehat> hash=`echo "I <3 IPFS -$(whoami)" | ipfs add -q`

15:30 <bigbluehat> that...actually

15:30 <bigbluehat> I'll update docs and see if others care ;)

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16:32 <whyrusleeping> bigblue, what shell do you use?

16:34 <wking> the $(...) form for command substitution is nicer anyway

16:35 <wking> Easy nesting without escapes. I'd just go with: hash=$(echo "I <3 IPFS -$(whoami)" | ipfs add -q)

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17:04 <whyrusleeping> wking: thats true

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17:15 <whyrusleeping> wking: do you know much about bittorrents project maelstrom?

17:15 <wking> absolutely nothing, sorry ;)

17:15 <whyrusleeping> haha, okay

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17:16 <whyrusleeping> trying to verify one of the FAQ answers someone contributed

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17:22 <wking> After skimming the posts listed here http://blog.bittorrent.com/tag/maelstrom/, I'm feeling like they're very excited, but feel like the architecture is too complicated for mere mortals ;).

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17:26 <whyrusleeping> hahaha

17:27 <Luzifer> jbenet: btw hugo was a good hint. migrated my blog to it and being happy :)

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17:30 <whyrusleeping> jbenet: ive replied on 1218

17:31 <jbenet> bigbluehat: thanks for fixing that!

17:31 <jbenet> Luzifer: note https://github.com/spf13/hugo/issues/1104

17:32 <jbenet> Luzifer: until that's fixed, it's hard to use it with ipfs :( :( :(. maybe we should write a script that rewrites roots to make them relative or something. this seems like somethng we'll need across the board.

17:33 <jbenet> whyrusleeping: thanks-- i'll get to it later today-- i've a million notifs to handle. can work on something else meanwhile? or if you're blocked atm i can try to pull it up--

17:34 <whyrusleeping> jbenet: yeah, i had a couple other things i could work on

17:34 <jbenet> @everyone in cambridge / boston area: i'm giving a tech talk at the W3C tomorrow (Thursday May 14, PM me if you want details. i can invite you but don't think it's widely public)

17:34 <whyrusleeping> jbenet: would be great to have 1218 merged before your talk

17:34 <jbenet> whyrusleeping: yeahhh -- thanks, let's try for it tonight

17:35 <whyrusleeping> okay

17:35 <jbenet> Tv` sorry for the lack of CR yet-- i should be able to get to it later tonight as well, worst case tomorrow.

17:36 <jbenet> (but i think whyrusleeping's got it ;) )

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17:36 <Tv`> no worries

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17:36 <whyrusleeping> yeah, it LGTM

17:37 <Tv`> mostly just looking for "does this look good" kind of feedback, whether i should keep working on what's there

17:39 <whyrusleeping> wking: mind taking a look over 1218 as well?

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17:48 <wking> whyrusleeping: I doubt I'll have anything useful to add, since I haven't looked at the peering code at all, but I'll look at it just in case ;)

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18:05 <bigbluehat> jbenet: no worries on the fix :) hoping to provide a bit more than -2/+3 chars ;)

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18:24 <whyrusleeping> bigbluehat: i'm glad youre wanting to contribute!

18:24 <whyrusleeping> are you comfortable with go at all?

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18:47 <bigbluehat> whyrusleeping: brand new to Go

18:47 <bigbluehat> but several friends have suggested it

18:47 <bigbluehat> mostly wanting to use ipfs for content / web apps

18:47 <bigbluehat> exploring it for decentralized annotation storage (among other uses)

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18:47 <bigbluehat> I'm an Apache CouchDB committer if that gives my decentralized data storage interests any context :)

18:52 <jbenet> bigbluehat: lets talk about the annotation storage when we chat

18:52 <jbenet> (btw i have time friday afternoon, or next week)

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18:53 <bigbluehat> lets shoot for Friday afternoon...and fall back to next week if we need it :)

18:54 <bigbluehat> jbenet: given that hypothes.is (the service's) public annotations are public domain, it seems it'd be a great fit for publishing those (and possibly reading them!) in and out of ipfs

18:54 <bigbluehat> ...with little/no concern about copyright overhead etc

18:54 <jbenet> Yeah

18:54 <jbenet> Although targetti g private annotations too

18:54 <jbenet> (Encrypted)

18:55 <jbenet> Sgtm re Friday

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18:57 <jbenet> cryptix are you around?

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19:34 <bigbluehat> so....I went through the getting started guide...but hit a snag when I Ctrl+C'd the daemon :-P

19:35 <bigbluehat> now I can't seem to do anything I did before running that

19:35 <bigbluehat> like cat the readme, etc.

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19:37 <bigbluehat> also, the file I made with the "whoami" command in it didn't show up in the web UI

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20:01 <whyrusleeping> bigbluehat: did the daemon shut down?

20:04 <bigbluehat> yeah...I killed it :)

20:04 <bigbluehat> which...in hindsight...was probably unwise

20:04 <bigbluehat> and since then I can't get anything to work again

20:04 <bigbluehat> ipfs cat /.../readme gets an "Error: context deadline exceeded"

20:04 <bigbluehat> despite my using my hash id

20:05 <bigbluehat> which I got from a) scrollback history and b) ipfs id

20:06 <bigbluehat> I just loaded cat.jpg through the web UI and that's working fine via HTTP

20:09 <bigbluehat> k...think I sorted it

20:09 <bigbluehat> user error (unsuprisingly)

20:10 <bigbluehat> what's confus(ed|ing) me though is that I can't `ipfs ls /ipfs/{my-id}`

20:10 <bigbluehat> and as such, I'm not sure how to ls/cat my own stuff

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20:14 <whyrusleeping> bigbluehat: thats not *quite* how things work

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20:15 <whyrusleeping> content under your namespace will be in /ipns/<your peer id>

20:16 <whyrusleeping> but only if you publish content to it

20:16 <whyrusleeping> content that you just 'add' must be referenced by its own hash

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20:18 <bigbluehat> whyrusleeping: got it, so there's no real "local directory" as such?

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20:18 <bigbluehat> ...maybe I should try the fuse setup

20:21 <whyrusleeping> bigbluehat: yeah, there isnt one place to find all the things youve 'added'

20:22 <whyrusleeping> weve been thinking of different ways to do it

20:22 <whyrusleeping> but its not an easy problem to solve

20:23 <bigbluehat> ah.

20:24 <bigbluehat> because of how it's "thinking" distributed out of the box?

20:24 <bigbluehat> guess what I'm looking for is the `localhost` equivalent :)

20:24 <whyrusleeping> yeah...

20:24 <whyrusleeping> your 'localhost' equivalent is gonna be /ipns/local

20:24 <whyrusleeping> with the fuse mount

20:24 <bigbluehat> or /ipfs/localhost (name *should* change) next to /ipfs/{your-hash} etc.

20:24 <bigbluehat> gotcha

20:24 <whyrusleeping> /ipns/local is a symlink to /ipns/{your hash}

20:25 <wking> ^ /ipns/<the-hash-of-your-node's-public-key>

20:25 <wking> There are lots of hashes. Best to be specific ;)

20:25 <whyrusleeping> good call, lol

20:25 <bigbluehat> :)

20:26 <bigbluehat> so... ipfs ls /ipns/local ?

20:26 <bigbluehat> > Error: could not resolve name.

20:27 <whyrusleeping> yeah, you havent put anything there yet

20:27 <bigbluehat> ipfs ls /ipns/{my hash} gets me nothing (as in now output)

20:27 <bigbluehat> well...I put 'cat.jpg' "in" via the web ui

20:27 <bigbluehat> which I can see in the files section

20:27 <whyrusleeping> so now cat.jpg is on your computer

20:27 <whyrusleeping> not in your local namespace

20:28 <bigbluehat> k...I get all this conceptually :)

20:28 <bigbluehat> but closing the experience loop is going to be important :)

20:28 <bigbluehat> so...I uploaded cat.jpg via the localhost:5001 UI

20:28 <bigbluehat> and that...put that cat.jpg file...somewhere

20:28 <whyrusleeping> and you have the hash of that file now

20:28 <bigbluehat> ...which I can reference via just the hash using ipfs ls /ipfs/{cat hash}

20:28 <whyrusleeping> yes

20:29 <bigbluehat> ...because it's pulling it from? the nextwork?

20:29 <bigbluehat> or locally?

20:29 <bigbluehat> ...this is why I killed the daemon btw ;)

20:29 <whyrusleeping> its pulling it from locally

20:29 <bigbluehat> I wanted to see what I could do locally

20:29 <bigbluehat> ...but...I still need the daemon :)

20:29 <whyrusleeping> no

20:29 <bigbluehat> no?

20:29 <bigbluehat> ...sorry...

20:29 <bigbluehat> I'm pretty good at "being a user"

20:29 <bigbluehat> fwiw

20:29 <whyrusleeping> you can do 'ipfs cat /ipfs/{cat hash}'

20:29 <bigbluehat> ^_^

20:29 <bigbluehat> right

20:29 <whyrusleeping> and it will spit out your cat picture

20:30 <bigbluehat> oh, with the daemon off?

20:30 <whyrusleeping> yeah, either way

20:30 <bigbluehat> and is Ctrl+C the recommended way to kill the daemon?

20:30 <bigbluehat> (as it is with CouchDB) :)

20:30 <whyrusleeping> yeap

20:30 <whyrusleeping> we have handlers to catch it and do the right thing

20:30 * bigbluehat tests

20:30 <bigbluehat> see...that's good

20:30 <bigbluehat> CouchDB doesn't have ('cause it doesn't need) any "right things"

20:30 <whyrusleeping> although, you can press it twice to quit immediately

20:30 <bigbluehat> you just kill it ;)

20:31 <bigbluehat> ah. /me won't do that for fear of data loss

20:31 <wking> bigbluehat: You're taking notes on this whole process so you can PR some friendly tutorial docs right? ;)

20:31 <whyrusleeping> haha, if it hangs for more than a few seconds, your data is safe, its just the web interface being obnoxious

20:31 <bigbluehat> ipfs ls on the cat photo (sans daemon) worked like a charm :)

20:32 <bigbluehat> wking: of course! ;)

20:32 <wking> good stuff

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20:32 <bigbluehat> I just need to understand it a bit more before I type stuff up

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20:32 <bigbluehat> whyrusleeping: yeah, a nice "...sorry kids...network is...slow..." message after N ms might be handy :)

20:33 <whyrusleeping> bigbluehat: there is one i beleive

20:33 <wking> don't wait so long that you forget what was initially confusing ;)

20:33 <bigbluehat> wking: haha

20:33 <bigbluehat> good call ;)

20:33 <bigbluehat> whyrusleeping: ah. good to know

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20:40 <jbenet> (whoops, I PM-ed this to the wrong window):

20:40 <jbenet> 15:00 <jbenet> Sprint sync!!!!! \o/ (we haven't been doing those).

20:40 <jbenet> 15:01 <jbenet> Sync: I fixed to listener problem and cr-ed + merged various things. Talking to various people and groups at MIT (inc w3c)

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20:43 <wking> sync: I rerolled go-ipfs#1208 to restore the "all protocols under /ipns/..." approach. Still have a few more bits to add to the PR before it's ready for a second round of review

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23:35 <ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to refactor/bitswap: http://git.io/vUMsn

23:35 <ipfsbot> go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap afe2586 Jeromy: contextify peermanager

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