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<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: oh interesting yeah cause it's not really a writable stream
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<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: is this mocknet or real network
<jbenet>
500^2 sounds like mocknet
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<whyrusleeping>
mocknet, yeah
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to refactor/bitswap: http://git.io/vTUTd
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap 83e68d6 Jeromy: turn tests down a bit and better context passing
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<whyrusleeping>
mocknet spawns a goroutine for each message it sends
<wking>
jbenet: I'll try and look over your branch later tonight. I'm still against CanResolve, but am happy to punt that discussion to a follow-up PR ;)
<whyrusleeping>
wking: what was your reasoning against CanResolve?
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<whyrusleeping>
jbenet: the pinning migration should be reversible, yeah?
<wking>
whyrusleeping: It was in a #1208 comment. Mostly that folks should just try and resolve and check for errors
<wking>
"Can you do this? Yes? Then do it." is racey
<wking>
or doesn't check everything
<jbenet>
There's no race here
<jbenet>
This is "is X supported?" Ok do X
<wking>
right, so it still doesn't tell you if a Resolve call will succeed
<wking>
so why bother with the separate call?
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<whyrusleeping>
"Is X something i can eat?" "No, X is a pillow"
<whyrusleeping>
or
<whyrusleeping>
"Lets eat this pillow!"
<whyrusleeping>
"that was gross"
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<whyrusleeping>
wking: i think the primary purpose for a CanResolve would be for validation, i dont necessarily want to take the time to resolve an ipns entry
<whyrusleeping>
but i want to know if i can
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<vitzli>
gmorning
<whyrusleeping>
vitzli: mornin!
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<vitzli>
whyrusleeping, how can I run these tests on #1225? checkout 'pin' branch and do `go compile`?
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<vitzli>
oh, and I can do `ipfs add` on texlive tree, find says that there are 133000 files in the top directory
<whyrusleeping>
vitzli: yeah, cd $GOPATH/src/github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs
<whyrusleeping>
git fetch
<whyrusleeping>
git checkout pin
<whyrusleeping>
go install ./cmd/ipfs
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<wking>
whyrusleeping: "I don't want to take the time to resolve..." sounds like you should just be setting a short timeout on the context you pass to ResolveOnce ;)
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<whyrusleeping>
lol, that sounds like a terrible idea
<whyrusleeping>
what if i have a list of ten thousand entries i want to validate?
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<wking>
whyrusleeping: where did the list of 10k entries come from? Can we validate them one by one as they're submitted?
<wking>
Otherwise, perhaps a no-network config to bail out at the first Resolve() step that needs to hit the network
<wking>
If you're going to be having these large validation lists a lot, and will need to validate them in batches, and you can't manage a no-network flag, then yes, CanResolve is probably the best answer
<wking>
But since that seems unlikely, I'd rather put off the additional interface until we have a demonstrable real-world use case ;)
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<vitzli>
whyrusleeping, I'll post tests data to #1225
<whyrusleeping>
wking: i think thats a real world use case
<whyrusleeping>
vitzli: thanks :)
<whyrusleeping>
Tv`: dammit, you named your branch the same thing as a folder
<whyrusleeping>
'git checkout pin' doesnt do what i expect it to
<Tv`>
whyrusleeping: git checkout pin --
<Tv`>
never bit me because the branch was called wip-pin for most of the time ;)
<wking>
whyrusleeping: doesn't hurt to leave it off until we hear someone's pitch for the use-case
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<whyrusleeping>
but nobody can use it if it doesnt exist
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<whyrusleeping>
jbenet: do we want to continue supporting the supernode stuff?
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to refactor/bitswap: http://git.io/vTURO
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap 6072bd8 Jeromy: turn rebroadcast back on
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<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: I think we'll definitely need it. Not sure how soon
<whyrusleeping>
okay
<whyrusleeping>
its just still kinda hanging around
<whyrusleeping>
wasnt sure what the deal was
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to refactor/bitswap: http://git.io/vTUwg
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap aa1fa74 Jeromy: explicitly set bitswap message fullness
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<nell>
hello
<nell>
ima lurk here for ipfs-node
<nell>
my project is revealing itself as the successor to the internet as envisioned by snow crash
<nell>
ive been thinking a lot about infrastructure, be curious to see if ipfs is the right piece to solve this puzzle
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<fleeky>
link nell?
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<nell>
link to what
<nell>
it's virtual/augmented reality related
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<vitzli>
whyrusleeping, I don't understand, in #1216 adding test file took ~6 min (1 core), in pull #1225 it took 3.5 min (2 cores), _but_ in #1216 adding the same file with 2 cores took 2min 20s - the latter result may be caused by OS caching
<whyrusleeping>
weird...
<whyrusleeping>
did you get numbers for 1225 on one core?
<vitzli>
no, I used 2 cores
<vitzli>
I've just checked out
<whyrusleeping>
hrm, i wonder if it would have been longer than 6 minutes on 1225
<vitzli>
sure, I'll test it
<vitzli>
Progress bar shows ~1m30s, but it takes longer
<whyrusleeping>
hrm...
<vitzli>
2m24.917s for 1 CPU core, on master ipfs version
<whyrusleeping>
huh
<whyrusleeping>
so 1216 slows things down a lot
<whyrusleeping>
oh wait, 1216 isnt a PR
<vitzli>
yeah
<vitzli>
When I made test yesterday, it was 6 min for the same setup, I'll go and cry
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<whyrusleeping>
>.>
<vitzli>
I'll do this test 10 times, be back in 20 minutes or so
<whyrusleeping>
haha, okay
<whyrusleeping>
thanks for investigating :)
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<whyrusleeping>
vitzli: i'm gonna go with those 2:30 ish numbers as the 'right' numbers
<whyrusleeping>
but the fact that it steadily increased leads me to beleive your disk is doing weird things
<whyrusleeping>
or your system load is increasing
<whyrusleeping>
maybe add a sleep 10 before the add?
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<vitzli>
I added sync and sleep 10
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<whyrusleeping>
cool, hopefully that help :)
<whyrusleeping>
also!!
<whyrusleeping>
if anyone is testing things through the gateways
<whyrusleeping>
could you try using mars.i.ipfs.io:8080
<whyrusleeping>
its running an experimental branch
<whyrusleeping>
should be quite a bit faster
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<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: I think it's important to break this apart and test parts independently.
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<wking>
jbenet: I'll get #1208 fixed up to past the tests today (and rebase to get #1220). I'm pretty sure I can get the depth getters/setters working without too much trouble
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<jbenet>
wking: sgtm
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<whyrusleeping>
oh shit.
<whyrusleeping>
a couple rsa keys in the strong set were broken
<whyrusleeping>
looks like bad key generators may be the cause
<gwillen>
they were bad keys -- they had small factors for some reason
<gwillen>
yeah
<whyrusleeping>
still, unless youve gone and looked at your primes, your key may not be the safest
<pfraze>
yeah that's interesting
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<whyrusleeping>
yeah, the first prime factor wasnt even prime...
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<whyrusleeping>
jbenet: could you looks over 1218 and tell me what you think of making the WantManager part of the decision engine?
<whyrusleeping>
i'm kinda on the fence
<whyrusleeping>
combining them makes it easier to control everything about bitswap in one place
<whyrusleeping>
but keep them separate makes testing easier, and makes things (i think) simpler
<jbenet>
sure
<jbenet>
looking.
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<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: i don't know-- i don't have a good understanding of what each part does :( :c to meaningfully contribute
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<whyrusleeping>
okay
<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: can you ask questions?
<whyrusleeping>
i think i'll just keep it separate for now
<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: about the model?
<whyrusleeping>
so, the wantmanager handles everything related to our wantlist
<whyrusleeping>
if i want a new block, all i say is wm.Want(k)
<jbenet>
idea! \o/ -- can you describe in a gist what each thing does? and how they work together? (the model)
<jbenet>
then i can help.
<whyrusleeping>
mmmm, sure
<jbenet>
whyrusleeping: i can try to read the whole thing again, but that won't be fast enough given other todos -- i'd get back to you in a day or two :/ -- if you make a model description i can probably answer meaningfully now.
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<whyrusleeping>
yeah, i'm writing on
<whyrusleeping>
e
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<wking>
jbenet: Can you review the final two commits on #1208? (the earlier commits haven't changed recently except for a conflict-free rebase onto origin/master)
<jbenet>
wking: yep on it
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] chriscool created improve-stdin-parsing (+2 new commits): http://git.io/vTLkJ
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/improve-stdin-parsing ff9cb9e Christian Couder: parse_test: test multiline stdin...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/improve-stdin-parsing 97ab64a Christian Couder: parse: don't use stdin if there are arguments...
<jbenet>
i tried reading it a couple years ago-- but i got distracted. it felt like something i should've read 15 years ago
<aluchan>
I found IPFS because I'm currently investigating how the infrastructure of the metaverse should be designed
<jbenet>
actually i guess it was a year ago-ish.
<aluchan>
making good progress towards it as well
<jbenet>
aluchan: yeah pretty relevant -- there's a few relevant papers you should check out
<jbenet>
aluchan: go to the gym-- bug me a bout it later, it'll take me some time to find them.
<aluchan>
messaged you
<aluchan>
bbl
<jbenet>
(people have written a good deal of infrastructure for this, including languages, permission schemes, ways to sandbox scripts, access data, etc)
<jbenet>
papers on infrastructure*
<jbenet>
sounds good.
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<chriscool>
jbenet: yeah, you responded on all the pending stuff I have, thanks!
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<whyrusleeping>
mmmm, i would love to live in the metaverse
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 2 new commits to refactor/bitswap: http://git.io/vTLEP
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap ecaac32 Jeromy: add a bitswap readme
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/refactor/bitswap 7735fd1 Jeromy: add a distribution test with the rebroadcast delay disabled
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<whyrusleeping>
hey cryptix! long time no see :P
<cryptix>
whyrusleeping: hey, i know - the last week evaporated somehow
<whyrusleeping>
yeah, same here
<whyrusleeping>
had to move across the state
<cryptix>
how did your move go?
<whyrusleeping>
pretty well all things considered
<whyrusleeping>
the trailer didnt break this time
<whyrusleeping>
so thats always a good thing
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] chriscool pushed 5 new commits to improve-stdin-parsing: http://git.io/vTLiC
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/improve-stdin-parsing 5503c4c Christian Couder: parse_test: improve error messages...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/improve-stdin-parsing 942e964 Christian Couder: parse: fix parsing stdin args...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/improve-stdin-parsing c93d583 Christian Couder: parse_test: add tests with 2 args and stdin...
<cryptix>
ohwow - i only moved in the city myself. we only did larger moves when i was little and i dont have any wishes to make experiences in that department any time soon
<cryptix>
glad that it worked out for you
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<whyrusleeping>
yeah! howve you been doin?
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] chriscool force-pushed improve-stdin-parsing from 499f8d6 to 275ec7c: http://git.io/vTLiH
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/improve-stdin-parsing 275ec7c Christian Couder: parse_test: test stdin enabled and not variadic arg...
<cryptix>
it's a blur honestly - arranged my desk and box in the institute where i'll write my thesis
<cryptix>
the first days i was just trying not do dring to much of the 1gbs symmetric koolaid and the rest i had interesting conversations
<cryptix>
drink*
<whyrusleeping>
writing a thesis???
<whyrusleeping>
uh oh, someone suckered you into a masters degree?
<whyrusleeping>
(or PhD)
<cryptix>
no bachelor - status:complicated
<whyrusleeping>
ooooh, interesting. never heard of a bachelors thesis
<cryptix>
european bachelor/master system - not that interesting and more depressing than it sounds
<whyrusleeping>
:/
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<cryptix>
last words for today: watch ex machina
<cryptix>
cya tomorrow guys
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<whyrusleeping>
cryptix: gnite!
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