stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.4.21 and js-ipfs 0.35 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of
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<hsn> how do you keep track what you pinned so you can delete outdated entries and have links to share
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<swedneck__> not sure what you mean, go-ipfs keeps track of pinned items automatically
<swedneck__> when you run `ipfs repo gc` it removed anything that isn't pinned
<hsn> I mean some like this: QmaHtKPNb9qr5XVLKFK1cF2vMeLq2z3wjyrKdYtmdeFYyu => Windows 3.11 installation disks
<hsn> So I will do list and unpin what I do not need to share anymore
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<swedneck__> ah
<swedneck__> `ipfs pin ls`
<swedneck__> that will list all the pinned objects
<voker57> better ipfs pin ls -r
<voker57> ipfs pin ls --type=recursive
<voker57> sorry
<hsn> It list like QmNoscE3kNc83dM5rZNUC5UDXChiTdDcgf16RVtFCRWYuU recursive
<hsn> I have no idea what it is.
<voker57> well ipfs doesn't either
<voker57> you can keep a list of pins with names in `ipfs files`
<alanshaw> 🤩 js-ipfs 0.37 just shipped with a new constructor, better DNSLink support and delegated routing! Read all about it on the blog https://ipfs.io/blog/2019-08-06-js-ipfs-0-37/
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<swedneck__> ooh nice dnslink support
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<hsn> what is stored persistently? dht and bitswaps are?
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<makeworld> If anyone knows the answer to my question about the `ipfs swarm connect` command that would be much appreciated
<makeworld> Tag me if you know please, or just reply in the linked thread
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<DarkDrgn2k[m]> Is there anyway to connect to a remote ipfs server without knowing its pubkey?
<postables[m]2> i dont think so, at least not easily
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> do you know wher ethe DNSADDR code is?:
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> becuase if that code can be modified slighyl to NOT try to resolve IP addresses, it could be used to preform the needed task
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> (right now it tries to resolve ip address as if it was a name)
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<DarkDrgn2k[m]> ive searcht eh go-ipfs repo but there is almost no mention of "DNSADDR"
<postables[m]2> not sure where the code is, i might have the dnsaddr spec link somewhere one second
<postables[m]2> try lookign here https://github.com/multiformats/go-multiaddr-dns
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> being able to blindly connect to ipfs servers without knowing public keys would be helpfull in closed systems that cant be bootstraped (ie connect to your neighbours)
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<DarkDrgn2k[m]> or if there is an easy way to request a pubkey from a remote server. dont know what the connect handshake looks like
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<postables[m]2> at the moment i don't think there is a way. you would probably need to write your own "out of band" protocol to get teh pubkey
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> yeh we have one but id rather not do it out of band :/
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> so every so often i lob the question out there see if anyone has any insight :P
<postables[m]2> you might be able to use pubsub
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> LOL why is everyting always directed to pubsub :P
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> anway how does pubsub help in this issue?
<postables[m]2> because presently its the only way you can get done waht you want 😛
<postables[m]2> you would be able to broadcast pubkeys to a topic
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> but that only helps if your part of a swarm already
<postables[m]2> which means its "in-band"
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> problem is this is an isolated ipfs server that knows there is another ipfs server at address X
<postables[m]2> sure, but if you're asking how to join the swarm without knowing the pubkey, and somehow doing that entirely in-band
<postables[m]2> i dont think thats possible
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> s/there is/there could be/
<postables[m]2> but the ipfs protocol requires that yoube able to connect to these addresses with the pubkeys doesn't it?
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> DNSADDR address alllow connection without a pubkey
<postables[m]2> unles theres someway you can short circuit that
<postables[m]2> eh sort sort
<postables[m]2> `dig _dnsaddr.boostrap.libp2p.io txt`
<postables[m]2> yea but look at the values of te DNSADDR txt record
<postables[m]2> tehy still have pubkeys
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> hmm
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> not what the document says
<postables[m]2> doc could be out of date or misworded tbh
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> i figured they allowed this as a multiple entries of a A record could yeld one of several pubkeys under teh same ip address
<postables[m]2> i mean perhaps you dont need pubkey, but real-word tests against existing DNSADDR entries return multiaddrs with the pubkey
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> > to connect to one of the bootstrap peers at random
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> Seems to indicate RANDOM peer therevore RANDOM pubkey
<postables[m]2> well random out of the list of peers behind that address, but each of those entries have pubkeys included
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> ah hmm :(
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> i wonder how IPFS initialte a connection with a server. whats the handshake like
<postables[m]2> depends the type of transport beind used i believe
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> yeh, im thinking TCP
<DarkDrgn2k[m]> hmm thinking this out it probably uses the remote pubkey to initaite the encryption..
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