#ipfs on 2019-08-13 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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05:07 <fling> How to create an ipns for a directory when I don't have actual data? But I have a list of files with sizes and hashes.

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06:23 <kivutar> fling do you know the hash of the directory itself?

06:23 <fling> kivutar: no, creating this directory.

06:25 <kivutar> I don't find anything in the doc, except ipfs get then ipfs add -r -w

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06:32 <fling> kivutar: the files might or might not be available on ipfs

06:34 <swedneck__> sounds like you'd have to do some manual stuff with `ipfs object` or such

06:36 <fling> swedneck__: where to read more about this?

06:36 <swedneck__> i think you'll want to do `ipfs object new unixfs-dir`, then `ipfs object patch add-link <output from last command> <name of new link> <hash of new link>`

06:36 <fling> Is there an easy way to script this?

06:36 <fling> Also how do I construct links from hashes properly?

06:36 <fling> And do I need file sizes at all?

06:36 <swedneck__> just read the documentation for `ipfs object`

06:36 <fling> ok

06:37 <swedneck__> don't think you need file sizes

06:37 <swedneck__> i'm just guessing based off of the help sections for these commands

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06:39 <swedneck__> yeah i think it's extremely simple, you literally just add an object to the empty directory, and give that new object a name

06:39 <swedneck__> `ipfs object new unixfs-dir` creates an empty ipfs directory, to which you can add links/objects

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06:41 <fling> swedneck__: thanks!

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06:43 <swedneck__> i learned something too!

06:43 <swedneck__> also check out `ipfs object stat <hash>`

06:43 <swedneck__> since you talked about sizes

06:45 <fling> my hashes are generic blake2b or sha512, nothing ipfs special

06:46 <swedneck__> ah, i thought you had ipfs objects

06:46 <bmwiedemann1> fling: I do https://github.com/bmwiedemann/opensusearchive/blob/master/opensuse-add#L9

06:47 <bmwiedemann1> to link 94GB of data into http://ipfs.io/ipns/opensuse.zq1.de./history/ in <1s

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06:51 <fling> Can't really understand what is going on there, not too many comments :P

06:52 <swedneck__> hold up, you added 94GB of data to IPFS that fast?

06:52 <fling> How do I assemble the keys from hashes?

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06:52 <bmwiedemann1> swedneck__: the data was already in IPFS, but I added a link to a tree.

06:53 <bmwiedemann1> without re-hashing everything of course

06:53 <swedneck__> hmm

06:54 <swedneck__> well let me know if i you find any ways to add shitloads of data to ipfs fast

06:54 <bmwiedemann1> when doing ipfs add of data that is mostly already added, I see a lot of disk reads going on - that makes it so slow

06:55 <fling> Does this mean I will be able to add it fast if I have no data? :P

06:56 <bmwiedemann1> swedneck__: how "fast" ? >2MB/s is easy. Just need SSD to get the IOPS. around 100-200 MB/s you might be bottleneckted by the hash function

06:57 <swedneck__> well i'd like to add about 50GB of data before i grow a grey beard

06:58 <bmwiedemann1> at 2MB/s that would be 7h - how fast does your beard grow? :-P

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07:00 <bmwiedemann1> these days I have noticed spinning HDD performance to go down with newer Linux kernel versions, because the performance optimizations are all done for SSDs these days

07:00 <swedneck__> really fast

07:01 <bmwiedemann1> e.g. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1110109#c0

07:01 <swedneck__> i suppose one day i might get a VPS and add the data to IPFS on that

07:01 <swedneck__> so i can just leave it going without supervision

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07:01 <swedneck__> i can't really do that on my desktop..

07:02 <swedneck__> what i want to (eventually) do is host a mirror of the main F-Droid repo on IPFS

07:02 <bmwiedemann1> or you could get a small silent box with some space at home

07:02 <bmwiedemann1> ah, cool.

07:02 <bmwiedemann1> if it is just 50 GB, I could host that.

07:03 <swedneck__> that's a bunch of upfront cost

07:03 <swedneck__> getting a 3 dollar VPS plus some volume space is cheap and really easy

07:04 <swedneck__> feel free

07:04 <swedneck__> part of the fun is doing it myself, however :P

07:05 <bmwiedemann1> Just tell me the CID then and I'll pin it to share the load

07:05 <swedneck__> well i can't get the CID because it takes 7 hours :D

07:06 <bmwiedemann1> *depending on throughput - see iotop -P

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07:07 <swedneck__> storage space isn't the problem, the problem is that adding it to ipfs takes ages

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07:09 <fling> Is a hash enough to construct an ipfs link?

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07:10 <bmwiedemann1> fling: yes. I wrote a howto: https://lizards.opensuse.org/2019/08/07/tricks-with-ipfs/

07:10 <bmwiedemann1> for large files, this is not as easy, though

07:11 <bmwiedemann1> because those should be chunked

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07:13 <fling> ok I could use base16

07:14 <bmwiedemann1> yes.

07:14 <fling> bmwiedemann1: can/should I use both available hashes?

07:15 <bmwiedemann1> better chose one of them. sha2-512 is easier, because the id assigned is <0x80 so a single-byte

07:15 <bmwiedemann1> would then be /ipfs/f01551340$HASH

07:16 <fling> omg so simple

07:17 <fling> bmwiedemann1: this is awesome!

07:18 <bmwiedemann1> of course, nobody could fetch the file, until it is actually added to a publicly reachable machine

07:19 <fling> So now I in theory have list of filenames and these /ipfs/f01551340$HASH links

07:19 <fling> am I like two commands far from having a directory with all this stuff in ipns?

07:19 <fling> Second command will update ipns with the directory changes

07:19 <bmwiedemann1> probably.

07:20 <fling> But what would be the first command for creating / updating this directory?

07:20 <bmwiedemann1> first command would be a loop over all files+hashes

07:20 <fling> Right.

07:20 <bmwiedemann1> something like https://github.com/bmwiedemann/opensusearchive/blob/master/opensuse-add#L9

07:20 <fling> D'oh this one I don't understand.

07:21 <bmwiedemann1> it adds one hash as a "link" into an IPFS directory

07:21 <bmwiedemann1> and gets a new CID as result

07:22 <fling> ok thanks, need to try doing this step by step.

07:22 <bmwiedemann1> you can try ipfs help $thatcommand

07:23 <fling> Can I use a remote ipfs daemon?

07:23 <fling> For example to run ipfs command on a box without internet access

07:23 <fling> But with access to another box in the same lan with ipfs daemon and internet access

07:23 <bmwiedemann1> If the ports are reachable. The default control port is only reachable by localhost

07:24 <bmwiedemann1> (disclaimer: I didnt do that yet)

07:24 <fling> so ipfs binary connects to ipfs network

07:24 <fling> Can I tell it to connect only to this specific host in the lan?

07:26 <bmwiedemann1> ipfs daemon does all the DHT and other network. ipfs client (hopefully) just does API calls with the (local?) daemon

07:26 <bmwiedemann1> dont know much about this part

07:26 <fling> ok

07:27 <fling> Just thinking where how can I use it.

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08:12 <voker57> ipfs does not have any RPC authentication so exposing control port on something not localhost is insecure

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08:17 <fling> Why would I expose control port?

08:17 <fling> hostA <--ipfs--> hostB <--ipfs--> rest-of-the-network

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08:32 <voker57> exposing on a lan is still exposing

08:32 <voker57> you could use a SSH tunnel for example to do it securely

08:33 <fling> But I don't want to expose the control port!

08:35 <voker57> 10:23 <fling> For example to run ipfs command on a box without internet access

08:35 <voker57> 10:23 <fling> But with access to another box in the same lan with ipfs daemon and internet access

08:36 <fling> but I could have ipfs daemons running on every box right?

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08:36 <voker57> running ipfs daemon on a box without internet access will not accomplist much

08:38 <fling> Will not it be able to just work if there is another ipfs daemon on a box with internets access in the same lan?

08:42 <voker57> no

08:43 <voker57> even with NAT ipfs does not work well

08:43 <voker57> it probably could work if you figure out the p2p-curcuit thing

08:43 <fling> does it work over hyperboria?

08:44 <voker57> if you set up hyperboria, should work

08:44 <fling> I stopped using it in the past because it had no udp support

08:45 <voker57> ipfs' main transport is tcp, but UDP is being tested

08:46 <fling> How will hyperboria help? Why is it mych different from a lan?

08:47 <fling> Or are we talking about a vpn over hyperboria? :P

08:47 <voker57> well it would offer "internet" access to your no-internet node

08:47 <voker57> if that's what you need

08:47 <fling> no it does not offer "internet"

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16:39 <gregjeanmartDisc> https://twitter.com/GregJeanmart/status/1160907570434977792?s=20

16:40 <gregjeanmartDisc> wrote an article how to interact with IPFS in Java

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16:47 <sblinn[m]> Hey there. have a quick question. I'm looking to get involved and since my programming skills are in the infancy stage I'm thinking I can help out with content and other ways. Is there a person to touch base with or can someone point me in the right direction. Thanks.

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18:09 <SchrodingersScat> whee updates make me happy, push those numbers +1

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