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<javis> Question about the DHT
<javis> If I had to connect to my another node explicitly with `ipfs swarm connect <address>` before I could `ipfs get <file_hash>`
<javis> Shouldn't I just be able to run `ipfs get <file_hash>` without connecting to the node that hosts that specific file?
<kpcyrd> you shouldn't need to run ipfs swarm connect if you can reach the bootstrap nodes
<javis> that's what I was thinking oh do i need to swarm after starting a node daemon or is it enough to have a few hundred peers
<javis> well i guess it does that by default actually
<javis> Not sure why i couldn't see my file before those manual steps
<deltab> as I understand it, when looking for a file ipfs will check first its own store, then ask the other peers it's connected to, then query the dht to find closer peers, connect to those, query again, and so on
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<deltab> but success depends on being connected to, or being able to connect to, the right peers
<javis> I see. How long would a new file take before it's propagated?
<deltab> the file isn't propagated unless it's requested
<javis> Oh so not just the DHT then
<deltab> the DHT is one way of finding peers
<javis> oh i thought the new hashes were seen by all at some point
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<deltab> I don't think there'd be enough storage space on any one peer for that
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<javis> Oh ok
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<javis> Thanks for the help, deltab and kpcyrd
<deltab> actually it's more complex than that: a file, unless it's small (1/4 megabyte), is made up of chunks; the DHT maps chunk ids to peer ids, and also peer ids to addresses (IPv4, etc.)
<deltab> so you could have multiple DHT queries in progress for chunks, the list of chunks, and peers
<deltab> if you're directly connected to a peer that has the file's chunks, none of those are needed
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<javis> ok, so it's better to connect directly to peers that have the files you're looking
<javis> for it seems
<deltab> yes, assuming you know where those are
<javis> got it
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<deltab> furtunately once you've found a peer with one chunk it probably has the others too, so those can be requested from it
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<Acacia> Seems like I can get tiny files to show up on gateways, but if I share a 117GB folder, I can see the folder from some gateways, but the files themselves always time out.
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<hsanjuan[m]> Acacia: gateways have a rate limit starting at 100 MB. Do they completely stop downloading or just get very slow ?
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<hsn> they download over 100M
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<hsanjuan[m]> actually I think the rate is 50MB/s which is not little either
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<itsmekntDiscord[> for private files on IPFS, once I give someone the key to view the file, is there any way to revoke the view permission?
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<hsn> no
<itsmekntDiscord[> how would you enable group-level privacy with IPFS? like anyone in the group is able to decrypt and view the file?
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