14:55 <lautriv__> does anyone know offhead if the PowerVX are better supported like mali (regarding linux/vanilla kernel) ?

14:55 <lautriv__> *VR

16:51 <mmind00> lautriv__: especially regarding non-Android uses, PowerVR support is equally bad as Mali - if not worse

16:52 <lautriv__> mmind00, ok, makes my decision for alternate targets easier.

17:44 <sjoerd> lautriv__: the drm maintainers won't accept drivers for GPUs that don't have an open source graphics stack, so situation for for imagination grapics and mali is pretty similar

17:48 <lautriv__> sjoerd, i agree to the maintainers but that chinese should start to obey the rules.

18:11 <mmind00> lautriv__: neither ARM (Mali) nor Imagination Technologies (PowerVR) are in any way chineese ... and it looks like all Chipmakers don't have the leaver to change british behaviour

18:11 <mmind00> lever without "a"

18:12 <lautriv__> mmind00, that is indeed right, was a bit upset about code in android in general.

18:14 <lautriv__> but that leads to the conclusion there is no single arm suited to become a sane HTPC.

18:18 <mmind00> lautriv__: adreno and vivante gpus do have support

18:19 <lautriv__> mmind00, do you know which SoC resp. tv-box have it implemented ?

18:20 <mmind00> lautriv__: Adreno is Qualcomm exclusive ... Vivante is more spread ... there was once Rockchip some years back, but otherwise I guess i.MX socs use Vivante gpus

18:22 <mmind00> lautriv__: https://www.96boards.org/products/ce/dragonboard410c if you can live without case

18:23 <lautriv__> i have no good experience with qualcomm

18:40 <lautriv__> so my best bet would still be to run that 3188 with a chimera ala linux on android kernel with chromium mali ....

18:44 <mmind00> lautriv__: the mali driver from ChromeOS is for the Mali T76x in the rk3288 (= the Midgard generation)

18:44 <mmind00> lautriv__: for the rk3188 libhybris might be the way to go

18:45 <lautriv__> mmind00, some link or howto handy ?

18:46 <mmind00> lautriv__: only https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris ... I've never looked at that deeper

18:48 <lautriv__> urgh. will see what i get when this thingie is prepared to boot linux native.

18:57 <lautriv__> mmind00, found some additional explanations from sunxi where they postulate success on rebuilding dor glibc :)

18:57 <lautriv__> *for

21:28 <sjoerd> why not use the mali binaries for normal linux on rk3188 ?

21:30 <sjoerd> lautriv__: and oddly they do play by the rules, closed source user space binaries on linux never has been against the rules ;)

21:30 <sjoerd> (though hopefully some will get the message nad open source their stack)

21:30 <sjoerd> mmind00: don't forget about nvidia whenit comes to gpu's with support btw

22:14 <mmind00> sjoerd: yeah ... although I haven't looked at Tegra-stuff past the tegra2 in my ac100 ;-)

22:18 <sjoerd> If i have to pick arm with open source graphics atm i think it'd be either nvidia or qualcomm, though for nvidia the hw video decoder isn't upstream which is a shame

22:18 <sjoerd> dunno about qualcomm