<libv>
ssvb: adding 1024x768 on hdmi seems very doable indeed
<libv>
on u-boot
<ssvb>
libv: that's a great news, thanks
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<libv>
it will not be of much use without usb keyboard support, but i guess that that is for the future anyway
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<Turl>
libv: usb should be supported already with arokux's patches
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<libv>
ah, so there are patches about for that
<libv>
cool
<libv>
hrm, the interesting bit will be to limit initialization to the bare minimum to get hpd to work
<libv>
and to only do the rest of init later on
<libv>
with the kms driver, most of the display engine is enabled anyway
<Turl>
libv: and sane keyboards should be handled by ./common/usb_kbd.c once usb is up
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<libv>
nice :)
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<Turl>
libv: if you can get CEC up to choose on the menu, that'd be the cherry on top ;)
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<libv>
someone else can go play with cec and things
<libv>
there's enough people who like that buzzword
<libv>
this u-boot code is a fun little detour for me
<libv>
but i should get this kms driver moving as well
<libv>
and getting lcd support is pretty important that
<libv>
imho it is then also necessary to backport lcd code to u-boot
<Turl>
libv: be glad I didn't say Anynet+ :p
<libv>
as otherwise a13, a23 and a33 will be left out
<Turl>
libv: there's more important stuff that need to be done for the latter two though
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<Turl>
like actual uboot support
<Turl>
with spl et al
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<ssvb>
libv: EDID support (native resolution) and also setup memory read via DEFE (so that the A10-Lime slow DRAM is not choked by the framebuffer scanout) would be really great
<ssvb>
oh, and also "sunxi lcd0" keeps increasing too
<libv>
ah, u-boot knows about edid
<libv>
defe can be added afterwards.
<libv>
what was the issue there again? was a10 too bursty with just debe?
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<ssvb>
we have the screen shaking issue on a10 with large screen resolutions (such as 1920x1080), because the DEBE host port is configured for high priority and is wreaking havoc
<ssvb>
if we reduce the DEBE host port priority, the screen glitches become worse
<ssvb>
but if we reduce the DEFE host port priority (this is already done), then everything works fine
<libv>
i will leave that work up to you, on both kms and u-boot
<ssvb>
it seems like the framebuffer scanout via DEFE has some sort of large FIFO buffer to ensure that we always have some data to send over HDMI
<ssvb>
and DEBE has no such buffer, or the buffer is too small
<libv>
you've been testing that to death, you deserve the credit for it
<libv>
plus, i get to ignore defe some more ;p
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<ssvb>
well, in layman terms it's just that the framebuffer scanout via DEBE is bad, and the framebuffer scanout via DEFE is good :)
<libv>
yeah, i understood
<libv>
but i seem to remember that this only was so for a10
<ssvb>
yes, they have apparently fixed this issue in A20, so only A10 is affected
<libv>
perhaps we could just add an extra option to lime u-boot config to just pick 1024x768?
<libv>
or smaller
<ssvb>
1024x768 is definitely better than nothing
<libv>
for kms we do need the proper solution though
<ssvb>
still what about the interrupts? do we need an active handler of any sort?
<libv>
for defe, i haven't looked into it
<libv>
with just debe, i seem to be able to get by without any handlers so far (but i need them for vsync soon)
<ssvb>
ok, good
<ssvb>
because with the use of simplefb, we are just passing the configured display hardware to the kernel and it is not expected to touch the display hw registers
<ssvb>
the need for any interrupt handlers would cause troubles
<ssvb>
if we get any sort of a working framebuffer, that would be enough for me to prepare the g2d driver for the mainline kernel :)
<libv>
urgh
<libv>
rpi code
<libv>
BCM2835_MBOX_INIT_HDR(msg);
<libv>
but i am the evil one for pointing the obvious out.
<ssvb>
well, it's all RPC again :) but it's good in a sense that it gives an idea about what is needed to be done on the u-boot side (without digging into the rpi display controller bloody details)
<ssvb>
there are other u-boot video drivers too
<libv>
i know, but this is the only one using simplefb
<libv>
ok, so this is nothing more than a feeble attempt to stop a full probe from happening again
<libv>
the amount of info being passed is really unbelievably minimal
<wens>
mripard_: can i get an opinion on the pinctrl patches i sent?
<libv>
ah, no, not probing again, just to get a really simple fb driver up with no real driver apart from u-boot
<libv>
ssvb: simplefb is really trivial to bolt on top
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<Turl>
totally offtopic, but does anyone know of something like pagekite but free and lightweight out there?
<Turl>
I need to keep an ssh server accesible but it's going to be behind a NAT, probably even CGN as well
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<wens>
what the... the internal rtc on the a31 hummingbird isn't connected to the battery
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<wens>
where did we get the calibration data for the temp sensor in the rtp in the first place?
<wens>
i don't see it in any of the datasheets, save a23
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<mripard_>
wens: yep, it's still sitting in my inbox, I'll try to do it today
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<Black_Horseman>
hola
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<kivutar>
ssvb, what about mali r4p0 on cubieboard/truck?
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<ssvb>
kivutar: we don't have the r4p0 blobs, end of story
<Gerwin_J>
"A 64-bit development board should also be ready for demo during the Hong Kong Electronics Fair in October." then wait for more 6 months to order on!
<nedko>
great news
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<Gerwin_J>
Allwinner 64bit ARMv8 Processor announced
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<Vanfanel>
ssvb: after reading that thread, there's still something I don't get. Allwiner is hidding behind Linaro, ok. But does that mean they at least provide non-mainlined kernel-side r4px drivers for Linaro kernels?
<moofree>
iirc allwinner doesn't do crap for nobody
<moofree>
maybe that'll change soon
<moofree>
err allwinner, not amlogic
<moofree>
wrong channel lol
<Vanfanel>
moofree: in what sense will that change? what do you mean?
<moofree>
i'm thinking of the wrong soc vendor
<moofree>
sorry :P
<moofree>
what i took away from that video was the guy holding up a xeroxed page where all you can read is "64". and then PR stuff
<moofree>
i'm too cynical when it comes to chinese soc vendors, but allwinner is one of the better ones, so we'll see
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<ccaione>
amlogic is crappier than allwinner
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<moofree>
yeah i don't know why i conflated the two in my head, too tired
<libv>
ssvb: u-boot is nasty
<libv>
they use weak symbols and global calls for device/board interfaces
<libv>
and then they can't be bothered to properly document them or mark them as such...
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<JannF>
hello, I hope there is someone in here who could help me.
<libv>
JannF: dial 911
<JannF>
I have two A13 based tablets but I can't get any information off them through fel
<JannF>
libv I see :D
<libv>
JannF: what other options suggested in our new device howto have you tried?
<JannF>
the fel ver commands works, but any other fel command times out wir err 7
<JannF>
yes I have
<JannF>
my main problem is, ANdroid doesn't run anymore on the second tablet
<JannF>
and I don't have a UART adapter here now
<libv>
JannF: they are two dissimilar tablets, right?
<popolon>
they continue
<popolon>
oops
<JannF>
yes, one is a 7" one I got everything (scipt.bin and memory info) and the other is a 9" one with a different board
<popolon>
wrong channel sorry
<libv>
JannF: have you been able to identify them, or do you need to fully NDH them?
<JannF>
I was only able to identify the board. they both seem to be noname china models
<libv>
if there is something else printed on the inside, we should use that
<Vanfanel>
libv: can you point me to some basic example for sunxi G2D, please? I'd like to attempt creating a RetroArch backend and all I need is hardware scaling and double-buffered vsync
<libv>
Vanfanel: i think that ssvb pointed you to this a while back
<Vanfanel>
no, he told me to learn a lowlevel ioctl-based API
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<Vanfanel>
G2D seems to have proper userland functions defined in sunxi_g2d.h
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<libv>
Vanfanel: so you expect other people to do your work for you?
<ssvb>
Vanfanel: this is a freaking ready to use code
<Vanfanel>
I didn't read that back then, sorry...
<Vanfanel>
ssvb: I don't want anybody to do the work for me!
<Vanfanel>
I'm just asking for an example :(
<Vanfanel>
you guys are too hard on me, really. But thanks for the links...
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<ssvb>
Vanfanel: you had all your questions answered multiple times during the last half a year
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<ssvb>
Vanfanel: now instead of yet another round of answering all the same recurrent questions, I'll just try to use links to old irc logs...
<Vanfanel>
no need for that, ssvb. Now I know we won't see r4p0 soon on the CB2 and why, I know I should use G2D for RA backend and have sample code to do that
<Vanfanel>
so no need for logs
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<Vanfanel>
but take into account my connections is prone to fail and my english is not perfect, so blame those if I ask something your already answered
<libv>
Vanfanel: why don't you bookmark the url ssvb just gave you in your browser?
<libv>
wouldn't that be a clueful thing to do which ensure that you do not lose the information which has been given to you so often already?
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<libv>
aha, now i am getting somewhere with these livesuit images
<Vanfanel>
libv: It's already bookmarked. I don't want to annoy ssvb or you with the same questions.
<JannF>
libv: I'll finish the device page sometime later, got to go already :/ I bookmarked it, so be sure that I'll finish it.
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<libv>
aha, got the script.bin
<oliv3r>
for?
<oliv3r>
(i'm working on a20 SoM evb atm!)
<libv>
jannf his device
<libv>
he should get a decent irc client
<libv>
now documenting the procedure.
<oliv3r>
has the a20 SoM evb and a20 lime been NDH'ed?
<libv>
oliv3r: your own fault for not looking at the wiki first
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<oliv3r>
libv: i did a few days ago!
<oliv3r>
ok maybe a few weeks :p
<oliv3r>
buti got the first a20-lime-4g :D
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<libv>
the page is more than two weeks old :p
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<libv>
anyway, all that is needed is a picture with the uart showing i think
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<oliv3r>
i got lots of pics though
<oliv3r>
so that's good
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<libv>
cool :)
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<CaptHindsight>
anyone here working on Xenomai for A29 or are they over at #olimex
<CaptHindsight>
A29/A20
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<libv>
great. seems we have everything that jannf needs
<libv>
and another great addition to the wiki
<oliv3r>
hmm, my a20-lime doesn't like ot boot, i got it to boot from nand once, then android decided to power off once booted
<oliv3r>
tomorrow a new day
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<rds>
libv: status of the KMS driver ?
<libv>
rds: whining has the exact opposite effect, and you know it.
<rds>
just checking
<rds>
I see that many folks are able and could join effort to get the KMS going
<rds>
I've noticed that: wingrime, ssvb,jemk and nove all said that they would help with the effort
<rds>
they are all top notch developers and if a project is kicked off, you all could get things done quickly
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<rds>
I like the reading to get a console for u-boot, using hdmi/vga/lcd - that is great as a step one goal
<libv>
again, stop whining.
<rds>
libv: ok. why do you think I am whinning
<libv>
if there's anything that stops me from doing code, then it's the knowledge that all i get afterwards is even more selfish whining from shortsighted selfserving tossers
<rds>
fair enough, in your view how could I help ? just staying shut ?
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* diego_r
thinks about asking libv status of KMS driver and starting storm 'n' thunders! :)
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<benn`>
query oliv3r
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<Turl>
hi benn` :)
<wens>
how's it goin'?
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<benn`>
just so so. I am thinking to start new career :)
<Turl>
:o
<Turl>
benn`: you have been very silent these last months
<Turl>
both you and cubietech
<benn`>
cubietech is busy with a80 board and handling customer hardware & software customization service :D
<wingrime>
libv: are you saw some new f series chip, based on stripped a10?
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<Turl>
wingrime: o.o
<wingrime>
Turl:?
<Turl>
wingrime: new f series in 2014?
<wingrime>
See aw site
<Turl>
wingrime: it is very very slow :\
<wingrime>
F1c700
<wingrime>
It's indeed a10 with stripped things
<Turl>
wingrime: package is same as A13 I think
<Turl>
eLQFP176
<wingrime>
Cool
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<Turl>
also up to 512M ram
<Turl>
maybe just renamed A13? :)
<wingrime>
Turl: we have any manuals for a80,?
<Turl>
wingrime: I don't think so
<Turl>
only marketing pdf
<wingrime>
And more one thing, fameous optimus borard, have anyone it here?
<Turl>
wingrime: not for sale I think
<Turl>
but cubietech is making A80 board, ask benn` :)
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<wingrime>
If it not for sale, why they just make it
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<wingrime>
Or not send to some communty entusiasts
<wingrime>
Thats strange position to aw
<wingrime>
Make it for nothing
<rds>
amazing that cubietech is customizing software for customers, probably using free beer from the developers here, and not even documentation they provide back. Amazing how Chinese think
<rds>
it seems to be *ONE WAY* street
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<Turl>
rds: that's hardly something exclusive to china
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<rds>
turl: yes, my chinese generalization was too much. Sorry ( before LIBV scream at me again! )
<Turl>
rds: NDH? :p
<benn`>
it's seem AW is not ready to public the a80 documentation.
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<Turl>
wingrime: pcDuino8 looks exactly the same to Optimus Board x)
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<bhag>
I have compiled a kernel from a debian source for cubieboard , but this kernel is hanging . http://pastebin.com/H0kLpLM6 . Can anyone help me out
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<Turl>
bhag: paste .config
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<bhag>
libv: i got the source from "apt-get install linux-source-3.13.0 " in my local desktop (ubuntu) and i used this source and compiled it against cubieboard arch
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<Turl>
maybe bfree has any other ideas ^
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<Black_Horseman>
hola
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wonders if Black_Horseman is a human or a bot
<Black_Horseman>
human
<bfree>
I can't imagine what a 3.13 from ubuntu source would be like but it strikes me as quite mad to even try it anyway without a _very_ good reason. trying 3.16 from debian experimental would seem saner to me if you want a deb packaged "mainline" kernel (and you don't even need to compile it)
<Black_Horseman>
an greek also
<Black_Horseman>
and*
<Turl>
Black_Horseman: :)
<Black_Horseman>
;)
<bfree>
I'm struggling to remember what would have been in a 3.13 (in debian, honestly I've no clue about ubuntu) ... and which boards debian's 3.16 actually supports now I think of it (cubietruck and cubie2 anyway I'm pretty sure)
<bhag>
where can i pick latest debian kernel source for cubieboard??
<libv>
bhag: debian has a tool to package any kernel.