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<jonkerj> I've been playing around with a kconfig for my h5 orange pi 0+2, taking the fdt compatibles list as an input to find the right config options
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<jonkerj> I see that the FDT for the board has a /soc/timer@1c20c00 with a 'allwinner,sun4i-a10-timer' compatible, which isn't selected by the aarch64/arm64 config
<jonkerj> I mean, the appropriate clocksource driver (CONFIG_SUN4I_TIMER) is only selected (and selectable) by arch/arm/mach-sunxi/Kconfig and/or COMPILE_TEST (which is obviously not what I want)
<jonkerj> I am wondering if the node is superfluous in the DT or if the Kconfig system for ARM64 needs to select this
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<jonkerj> the board seems to run fine without it, though
<ElBarto> jonkerj: it isn't used as the arm generic timer is present too
<jonkerj> makes sense
<ElBarto> we (FreeBSD) use it as the source for timecounter as the generic timer is glitchy
<ElBarto> it reminds me that I need to send patches for that, the compatible isn't correct
<jonkerj> yw :-)
<jonkerj> so in theory, I could trick arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms to enable CONFIG_SUN4I_TIMER and have a less glitchy timer driver on H5
<ElBarto> depend on the linux driver
<jonkerj> what kind glitchyness do you guys experience btw?
<ElBarto> the a10 timer have 64 bits counter that we used on FreeBSD, but it isn't available in >A20 iirc
<ElBarto> so the driver might need some work
<ElBarto> the counters glitch when they do rollover on a certain pattern
<ElBarto> which causes a lot of different problem
<ElBarto> weird ntp issue, callouts (function fired after a certain amount of time) being weird too etc ...
<jonkerj> random unstableness
<jonkerj> caused by a variety of timer-induced problems
<ElBarto> right
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<ElBarto> everything is now fine since we use the other timer for timecounter
<ElBarto> we still use the arm generic timer for eventtimer, it seems ok
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<wens> so in linux parlance the arch timer could be used as a timer, but not a clocksource
<ElBarto> which arch timer ? the allwinner one ?
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<ElBarto> also mind share why ? just for my general knowledge :)
<BroderTuck> Speaking of misbehaving timers, a quote from the slackware-arm changelog: "Reverted to the 4.17 branch. Unfortunately 4.18 was unstable on the OrangePi. In particular, the date was jumping 100 years and there were numerous Kernel panics."
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<ElBarto> BroderTuck: that's one of the issue you can encounter, but it also present in 4.17 since it's hardware-related so I don't know why they've reverted
<jonkerj> just upgraded my (orange pi) H3 boards to 4.18.7, haven't seen such issues
<jonkerj> (yet)
<ElBarto> also only the A64 is glitchy
<ElBarto> I guess there is a OrangePi board with A64
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<BroderTuck> Seems like the OrangePi Win is A64-based
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<BroderTuck> ElBarto: I also thought it sounded odd that there would be any difference between 4.17 and 4.18, that's why I brought it up here.
<ElBarto> BroderTuck: I guess the panics that they saw were not time related, but it's not very clear
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<wens> ElBarto: arch timer = arm generic timer
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<ElBarto> wens: so I'm lost, why did you said that the arm generic timer couldn't be used as a clocksource ?
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<ElBarto> (I guess clocksource in linux is just a counter right ?)
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<wens> because of the a64 glitch?
<ElBarto> ok sorry, just understood what you mean, not enough coffee this morning it seems
<ElBarto> so yeah, I'll send patches soon to fix the DTS, I just need to confirm which SoC changed the a10-timer to *not* have the 64 bits counter
<ElBarto> based on the datasheet it seems to be the A23
<ElBarto> but since I don't have such hardware I don't know
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<wens> 64 bits counter?
<ElBarto> A10 timer have 64 bits counter (CNT64_* in the user manual)
<wens> I don't think we ever used it
<ElBarto> that's what the FreeBSD developer used 5/6 years ago when he ported FreeBSD on A10
<ElBarto> and that's how I found out that they aren't present on later SoC :)
<wens> it's incorrect to use it, since the memory region for the timer doesn't even cover those registers
<wens> FYI the registers were moved to the CPUCFG part starting with the A20
<ElBarto> damn you're right, I guess it was from back in the day when we have our own dts
<ElBarto> and since I haven't booted my A10 board in 2 years I've never noticed this
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<Nahom> Hello
<Nahom> I have a bunch of Mele M3 devices and have put linux on them
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<Nahom> But haven't managed to get get wifi driver installed
<Nahom> It is RTL8188ETV. Anyone has any ideas?
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<karlp> yeah, find something with better wifi hardware?
<karlp> better than 8189etv...
<KotCzarny> why sticking realtek
<KotCzarny> *to
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<karlp> because it's whats on the mele m3 hardware
<KotCzarny> desolder?
<KotCzarny> there are modules available
<karlp> cmon,
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<karlp> yeah, you _can_ mod anything, but is it really the best way forward in all things?
<KotCzarny> so people doing similar things, mele might have different module form factor, but should be available
<KotCzarny> if the available hw is crap, yeah, sometimes new hw is better option
<KotCzarny> than losing days debugging unfixable crap
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<karlp> more than the price of the opi zero+ entirely.
<KotCzarny> it all depends what is your target
<KotCzarny> for bpi-r1 having stable wifi(+ap functionality) is important, and 8192cu is ulti-crap
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<KotCzarny> so just grab any decent usb wifi dongle and forget
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<KotCzarny> rt5370 is ~2-3usd
<KotCzarny> and for me it works nicely as an ap in one location
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<karlp> isthat rt28xx or mt76 driver?
<KotCzarny> rt28xx
<KotCzarny> you have to check what chipset is inside
<KotCzarny> chinese sell the same package with them mixed randomly
<karlp> yeah, buying usb dongles is a wildcard.
<KotCzarny> on the plus side i got one mt7601u for free thanks to aliexpress refund
<karlp> especially if you want to use them in AP mode.
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<Nahom> Ok, I guess I will look for a wifi dongle
<Nahom> I have managed to put the mainline kernel and used a Ubuntu 18.04 rootfs. I have written it up in a medium article. Would that be useful to anyone?
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<Nahom> Ok, I have another question. The mainline kernel I used is 4.19... but when I try to install kernel-headers from apt, it only gives me 4.15 ones. How can I sync these up?
<KotCzarny> apt-get remove linux* ?
<KotCzarny> or just ignore
<KotCzarny> most things dont crash
<KotCzarny> and external modules look in /lib/modules/*/build anyway
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<fALSO> download the kernel sources ?
<KotCzarny> he used 4.19 so guessing he built it himself
<Nahom> yes built it
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<dgp> nahom: If you want kernel headers packager you need to use the debian tool to build the kernel
<dgp> s/packager/packages/
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<BroderTuck> This was the answer I got from drmozes, the guy behind slackware-arm: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-arm-108/linux-4-18-a-4175637683/
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<dgp> The mainlining page on the wiki says that ethernet support for the v3s went into 4.13 but it doesn't seem to be in 4.18. Are the patches for it in a repo somewhere?
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