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<catphish> well after a week of fighting with it, my usb finally works :)
<veremitz> \o/
<veremitz> musb ftw?! :p
<anarsoul|2> your baremetal code?
<catphish> anarsoul|2: yeah
<catphish> turns out i had missed the existence of the HCI_ICR register, allwinner like to document registers but not list them in the register list :)
<catphish> and i wasn't paying attention to it because it's not a standard part of USB, took me way too long, but all good learning
<catphish> baremetal is great for learning, even if a little pointless
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<catphish> thank you for tolerating my ramblings, i sleep now :)
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<silviop> There is a howto to extract MPI-DSI android panel initialization command and put them in mainline-kernel ?
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<gamelaster> Hi, does anyone encountered (probably) hang on "udelay" in u-boot (v2018.11, SPL boots fine, sun4i)?
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<bshah> silviop: There was a wiki page about this in the freedreno wiki https://github.com/freedreno/freedreno/wiki/DSI-Panel-Driver-Porting
<silviop> Ok, is a start point , but i have only an android running kernel/module binary, is there an utility that extract commands from kernel/module image ?
<bshah> silviop: do you have root access?
<bshah> and which kernel version is downstream version?
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<silviop> I have root access is a tablet with A33, a rare 7" tablet with mpidsi panel other with lvds works OK.
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<catphish> i've gotta play with my a64 tablet some time
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<silviop> What tablet with mpidsi ?
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<catphish> are there any allwinner powered tablets with non-shit displays by the way?
<catphish> the one i have looks like they bought an lcd from the 90s
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<KotCzarny> i have a31 powered 10" one with ips 2048x1536 res
<KotCzarny> nice for reading comics
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<diego71> nice indeed
<KotCzarny> got it used for 20usd
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<catphish> KotCzarny: that sounds awesome, what brand / model?
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<KotCzarny> catphish: one almost noname (local rebrand) and one archos
<KotCzarny> they are almost identical in specs
<KotCzarny> both i got cheaply second hand
<KotCzarny> a31 unfortunatelly has powervr gpu, so a bit hard for mainline linux
<KotCzarny> i think it's named Archos 9 Titanium HD
<KotCzarny> or something
<KotCzarny> archos 97
<catphish> not terribly easy to source it seems
<KotCzarny> old
<KotCzarny> but if you have any second hand/classifieds forum in your country, try it
<catphish> yeah, i'll have a look
<catphish> would prefer something with a DE2
<catphish> a64 seems nice, but didn't see any with nice screens
<catphish> i don't suppose anyone maintains a list?
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<catphish> there's lots of china devices like this, but hard to know if the screens are worthwhile: https://www.rvonline.co.uk/products/onda-v80-tablet-pc-8-inch-android-7-0-allwinner-a64-quad-core-1-3ghz-2gb-ram-16gb-rom-dual-cameras-wifi-bluetooth
<catphish> "5 Point(P+G) IPS 1920*1200"
<KotCzarny> dont remember if a31 had de1 or de2
<catphish> de1, just checked
<catphish> anyway, not something i need, just interesting to know what's aroun
<catphish> *around
<KotCzarny> you would find allwinner socs in plethora of unexpected places
<KotCzarny> if it's dirt cheap, there is a chance
<KotCzarny> ;)
<catphish> i'm actually mostly interested in developing my own product, so will be looking at the possibility of fab'ing my own allwinner board at some point
<catphish> not sure if it'd be saner to try to do it myself from scratch, or go to an existing china company and ask for a customized opi
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<beeble> you have money to burn?
<catphish> well i'd have to, if i got to that stage, but the cheaper the better
<catphish> 90% pipe dream, 10% possibly viable product :)
<karlp> beeble: shouldn't be really expensive, we were quoted about 3k for customizing ~existing boards before
<catphish> well that's a lot less than i thought
<beeble> and what minimum order did they ask for?
<karlp> that wasn't an allwinner type board, and it was a few eyars ago, but yeah, it's not crazy
<karlp> only a few hundred
<catphish> basically i'd just want an opi with a different pcb layout for custom connector locations, so 10k all in is a conceivable ballpark?
<karlp> I would say so, yes.
<catphish> if that's the case, i'll definitely ask around if i get to that point rather than trying to design myself
<mru> sometimes the best choice is an off the shelf SoM with a custom carrier board
<catphish> do people sell allwinner modules?
<beeble> o/
<catphish> because that would be ideal for a prototype
<catphish> i can make a carrier board trivially
<mru> lots of them around
<catphish> i'll have a look for a module then, would be great to have the SoC and RAM sorted, then i can route the other IO myself
<miasma> I've wondered why the hackers haven't already switched to SoM style boards. RPi still sells like hotcakes
<catphish> i didn't know they existed :(
<KotCzarny> in other words, marketing rules the sales
<miasma> catphish: there's also nanopi duo
<gamelaster> catphish: NanoPi have multiple SoM like boards
<mru> I have a few of the neo core modules here
<catphish> i need to be able to break out my own HDMI, USB and SD
<gamelaster> catphish: then maybe better for you will be SOPine or Raspberry Pi Compute Module
<miasma> nanopi is attractive, but their shipping costs are quite high compared to orange/banana pi
<KotCzarny> catphish: did you look at opi0?
<KotCzarny> it's small enough and has most ios already exposed
<KotCzarny> unless hdmi is a requirement
<catphish> tbh i literally only just started looking, never occurred to me i could use a module :)
<KotCzarny> but then opi0+2 is nice
<KotCzarny> and comes in h3 and h5 flavors
<catphish> opi0 looks a but chunky, lots of hardwired connectors
<KotCzarny> see opi0+2
<catphish> KotCzarny: i'll look through all of them later on, really it will come down to which board exposes hdmi, usb, and SD as a pin/pad
<KotCzarny> just look at this cutie pie
<miasma> any idea how many carrier boards the community has come up with so far
<miasma> something with pictures available online
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<catphish> i suspect it's very unlikely any non-hdmi board will expose hdmi on the gpio headers
<miasma> just thinking, there could be a wiki page about community created addon/carrier boards
<catphish> but i'll definitely look
<catphish> oh, opi0+2 says "HDMI, CVBS on pin headers"
<karlp> catphish: I'm working on a proto based on the nano pi duo2 and the nanopi neo core lts, nice and easy to make basebaords for
<KotCzarny> no, hdmi is soldered, cvbs on pin header
<karlp> (but I've not been caring abotu hdmi or anything tha tyou want)
<gamelaster> catphish: if you want really breakout HDMI and other things, I really recommend you Raspberry Pi Compute Module
<karlp> rpi compute is jumbotron though
<catphish> gamelaster: that's not a h3 :)
<gamelaster> caphish: ahh you want h3? Sorry, I didn't saw the discussion before
<gamelaster> It must be exactly H3?
<catphish> h3 or very similar
<gamelaster> A64 would be fine?
<catphish> yes, probably
<gamelaster> Then look for SOPine: https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=1491
<gamelaster> Price is also very good, I have a one
<catphish> h3 has a nice price tag
<catphish> that pine looks sool
<catphish> *cool
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<KotCzarny> twice as expensive as opi0+2 (which already has nice emmc too and hdmi soldered)
<catphish> opi0+2 is a nice device, might be good enough
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<catphish> trying to find a pinout
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<KotCzarny> wiki
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<catphish> "Please refer to the Orange Pi Zero wiki page for now, as the Orange Pi Zero Plus 2 details are still TODO."
<KotCzarny> the 26pin one is the same as the other
<catphish> same as opi0?
<KotCzarny> as most oranges
<catphish> perfect
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<catphish> lots of SPI
<KotCzarny> but take it with a grain of salt
<KotCzarny> since it comes from xunlong
<miasma> those seem to differ a bit
<catphish> but yeah, i'll take some time to look through the options, ability to break out storage is critical, so will hunt for something with SD pin headers
<\x> gamelaster: >silicon delta
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<gamelaster> \x: hmm?
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<KotCzarny> catphish: you can always rip off sdcard slot ;)
<catphish> true
<KotCzarny> or use sdcard extender
<\x> [23:48:35] <gamelaster> Then look for SOPine: https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=1491
<KotCzarny> sdcard extender might be safe and easy option
<gamelaster> Yes I know, but what's with it?
<gamelaster> catphish: for example, RPI Zero have SD lines break out on Pads, maybe opi will have it too
<\x> i was just laughing at that silicon delta thing
<\x> maaan, i hope we get orange pi r1 plus.
<gamelaster> \x: hmm, why? :D
<\x> 2 gigabit eth jacks with a proper wifi card on it
<\x> should be damn good for diy mesh systems
<KotCzarny> man, those sdcard extensions cot almost as much as opi0
<KotCzarny> o.O
<catphish> hence broken out usb and storage
<KotCzarny> are they made of gold or what
<miasma> business as usual. they rip off customers with the addon boards
<KotCzarny> 2x usb you have on pins on opi0+2
<karlp> what are these sd card extensions? did I miss a link?
<catphish> KotCzarny: i saw, so i'm not far off with that
<\x> also socketed soic 8/16
<\x> wew
<miasma> maybe i'll update that opi0+2 gpio table in the wiki..
<KotCzarny> miasma: please confirm it first
<KotCzarny> before adding, vendors have history of dubious documentation
<miasma> yea, i think i'll order that board first. need to evaluate it anyways
<miasma> KotCzarny: at least currently it's providing misleading info as the datasheets show different pin functions for pins 8,10,11, and 13
<catphish> thanks for the pointers, definitely seems like there'll be an option that works for prototyping
<miasma> oh and pin 12
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<catphish> after a week of frustration, i finally got my baremetal USB code to detect devices plugged in last night
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: so expansive
<MoeIcenowy> $24 for one piece...
<KotCzarny> :)
<KotCzarny> + dhl tax
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<miasma> not sure if this is only temporary but they've sold rpi 3b+, 29 eur for a week now.
<miasma> maybe two weeks
<[TheBug]> just remember those extenders are not active, so if you want to change the card and not reboot, you still have to unplug and replug the extender after replaciung the card
<catphish> why? is there card detection in the socket?
<catphish> (mechanical)
<[TheBug]> lets put it this way I have 3 of those extenders and wanted to use it for dev in board, but i kept running into issue where if you switch card without unplug/replug the extender it can't detect a change
<KotCzarny> \x: yeah, a bit more sane price
<[TheBug]> so only useful if you are rebooting each time you are changing the card
<[TheBug]> or if you don't mind unplug/REPLUG EXTENDER
<miasma> [TheBug]: what if you unload/load the kernel driver?
<[TheBug]> sry for caps
<[TheBug]> miasma: honestly, not sure...
<catphish> i can't think why it would be any different, unless there's a mechanical card detection
<catphish> and such a thing seems crazy
<catphish> but that i'm doubting your anecdotal problem
<catphish> *not that
<[TheBug]> well I was in a position where my sdcard reader wasn't a module, so I couldn't just unload/reload it
<[TheBug]> but I could see that it could possibly work that way
<KotCzarny> if it's mechanically triggered line, wouldnt simple button on the case solve it?
<miasma> [TheBug]: did you try ejecting the card via software first
<miasma> how much state there could be in the sd card reader
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<willmore> catphish, ask lvrp16, they have contacts in the board making business.
<KotCzarny> or tohhling sd-cd pin with sunxi-pio
<catphish> willmore: thanks, i'm nowhere near the stage of asking yet, but worth knowing who might be able to help :)
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<catphish> it'll certainly be cool if i can find an appropriate module for prototyping though
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<gamelaster> Please, can anyone help me to find out why my u-boot hangs on "udelay" function? (sun4i)
<KotCzarny> i would bet its not the function it hangs on
<gamelaster> Yes, it's probably some problem with clocks or something like that, but I couldn't find the problem (SPL works fine)
<gamelaster> (it's untouched mainline u-boot v2018.11 , defconfig A10-OLinuXino-LIME)
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<martinayotte> wens: do you rememer your commit on Sept 8 about ".needs_new_timings = true," on "sunxi_mmc_cfg sun50i_a64_emmc_cfg", it seems to prevent H5 to boot completely, I've tried to put it back to false, and it worked. Should we have a new compatible for H5 ?
<martinayotte> s/rememer/remember ...
<martinayotte> I faced the issue with both OPiZero+H5 and NanoPiM1Plus2, which both having H5. No issue with any A64 ...
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<catphish> i think i might use SPI for my removable storage, easy to break out, cheap ICs available
<karlp> wat
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<karlp> usb or sd are farrrrr easier
<catphish> really?
<catphish> i figured they'd be pretty similar in terms of complexity (though USB requires a lot more setup)
<catphish> i originally assumed SD was the way forward, and may still be, but SPI seems like a sane option too
<catphish> though SD is probably the easiest of the 3 by far
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<karlp> you're thinking of the user too right?
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<plaes> gamelaster: revert 3c92cca3cda0d72c11c41bc0b07edcff127cf194.
<gamelaster> plaes: yes, I already find out
<gamelaster> Thank you anyway
<vagrantc> i've been having instability on orange pi plus2 boards running 4.18/4.19 kernels ... 4.17 works fine
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<plaes> lots of breakage happening lately :(
<vagrantc> i can also easily try 4.20 ... really hoping for something backportable to 4.19.x
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<plaes> o_O
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<Net147> catphish: A20 frontend scaler has maximum width of 2048 pixels for either the input or output size, so doesn't work for 3840x2160...
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