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<Josh_2> well I can't figure it out
<Josh_2> Some functions which expect base64 strings as input work just fine and then these two (so far) keep failing :(
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<Josh_2> hmm seems the pickle functions take a void * while the ones causing issues require uint8_t *, how do I create uint8_t * with cffi?
<Nilby> cffi has a built-in :uint8 type
<Josh_2> So I have to turn my nice string into an array whose elements are of type uint8
<Josh_2> bit of a pita but whatever
<Nilby> You can ususally just use the cffi string type, but you have to make sure the cffi encoding matches the expected encoding of the foreign functions.
<Josh_2> thats what I've been doing, but I tried utf-8 which is what the python version is using, and I've tried ascii
<mfiano> #'babel:string-to-octets or ironclad:ascii-string-to-byte-array
<Nilby> Hmmm. Well uint8_t * could be any encoding or no encoding.
<Nilby> If it's base64 I imagine it's converting aribtrary binary data, so you don't want a character encoding conversion.
<Josh_2> okay
<Josh_2> I'll try using an array instead
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<Nilby> On some platforms you can even use the lisp array data directly without conversion with cffi:with-pointer-to-vector-data.
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<leo_song> lukego: try use cffi-grovel to wrap by yourself? I find it pretty easy to use.
<Josh_2> well when I use (cffi:with-foreign-array ..) I get an error about not being able to find an applicable method relating to cffi:dimensions
<Josh_2> cffi:with-pointer-to-vector-data doesn't do that though, not that I can find that function in the online
<Josh_2> in the online manual
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<Josh_2> Well I'm not getting invalid-base64, now I'm getting bad-message-version
<Josh_2> so I guess thats progress :P
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<Josh_2> Well I got it to work!!
<Josh_2> Thanks for the heads up Nilby & mfiano
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<Nilby> Nice. So good when things actually work after a struggle.
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<Josh_2> bit of a pita that I'm not longer using with-foreign-string as that automatically freed pointers
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<beach> Good morning everyone!
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<Nilby> Good morning.
<Nilby> Josh_2: You might be able to use with-foreign-object, but really either way it's just an unwind protect wrapper.
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<Josh_2> exactly
<Josh_2> Morning beach
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<mfiano> Morning
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<beach> Hello mfiano.
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<mfiano> I recently took a break from game development, after approximately 20 years. I'm really having a lot of fun developing another project with Common Lisp.
<beach> Great!
<beach> ... the Common Lisp part, that is.
<mfiano> I've been writing a game engine/games in CL for about 15, but my burnout meter said I needed a break.
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<beach> mfiano: I can understand that.
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<mfiano> I started a rather ambitious project that requires performance and interactive development, so Common Lisp makes perfect sense. But it's in its infancy, only about 10kloc so far.
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<beach> Can you give a short description of the project?
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<mfiano> It will be a library and end-user application for procedurally generating images such as abstract art or 3D textures than can wrap a game actor using math. Their is another project, called WEIR, which is a similar yet with a very different, limited use-case.
<mfiano> s/Their/There/
<beach> That does sound ambitious.
<mfiano> So far I have about 25 coherent noise algorithms and a bunch of transformations you can apply to them in a graph. Not much, but yes, it is ambitious. I made this example the other day with the limited tools I have implemented: https://i.lisp.cl/temp/art.png
<mfiano> Lacking any sort of color composition as you can see :)
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<beach> I need to take your word for it. :)
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<mfiano> It's a single hue, if you can't see that.
<mfiano> One day you might be able to drag graph nodes and connect transformer edges to each other and see results in real time outside of Emacs :)
<mfiano> (in McCLIM)
<beach> Now I see it.
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<Josh_2> Afternoon
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<beach> Hello Josh_2.
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<Josh_2> cffi is causing my program to hang when I attempt to free a pointer created with (with-pointer-to-vector-data ..)
<Josh_2> from what I can tell the pointer is not being used anymore
<Josh_2> maybe It's foreign-array-free
<Josh_2> nope
<Nilby> with-pointer-to-vector-data is not without problems, because to be safe on has to not have garbage collection happen while C is using it
<Josh_2> ah
<Josh_2> is there a safer alternative?
<Josh_2> with-pointer-to-vector-data performs perfectly and I get the expected result I just can't free the pointer
<Nilby> yes, becase with-* allocates copies
<Josh_2> so what do I do?
<Nilby> oh
<Nilby> i mean you can't free it, because it belong to lisp
<Josh_2> oh
<Josh_2> well that makes things easier I suppose
<Josh_2> it'll just get garbage collected when I'm done with it?
<Nilby> with-pointer-to-vector-data is just giving the lisp pointer to C code. with-foreign-string , with-foregin-object, etc. allocates and frees non-gc memory so it's safer
<Nilby> with-pointer-to-vector-data is kind of a hack to make things fast, and zero copy when you know it's safe to do
<Josh_2> huh
<Nilby> yes
<Nilby> it should be the just a pointer to memory lisp uses for the vector
<Josh_2> well if I'm within the body of (with-pointer-to-vector-data .. it won't garbage collect the buffer will it?
<Nilby> it should be gc as usual
<Nilby> perhaps, as long as long as you stay in C code, and gc doesn't happen from another thread or something
<Josh_2> Well I'll just stick with it then
<Josh_2> Thanks
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<Nilby> You're welcome, I've probably done too much with CFFI for my own good. The problems with with-pointer-to-vector-data is probably why it isn't mentioned in the manual.
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<Josh_2> Well I really appreciate the help, you have been a life saver
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<Nilby> It seems like maybe I helped you make more powerful bugs (:
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<Josh_2> haha yes
<Josh_2> fixing one problem and finding a new
<Josh_2> seems to be working properly now tho
<Nilby> Cool.
<Nilby> Lisp by itself is usually pretty safe, but With proper application of CFFI and other CL things I've managed to make Lisp crash itself, the window it's in, the window system, the OS, and even make the hardware overheat and break.
<Josh_2> oh yikes
<contrapunctus> lol
<Josh_2> how do I convert a :uint32 pointer back to an integer?
<Nilby> It should usually convert automaticlly, but if it doesn't you can use cffi:translate-from-foreign
<francogrex> anyone here reading this has experience with sbcl VOP?
<heisig> francogrex: Yes, I have used VOPs a few times.
<minion> heisig, memo from flip214_: DANKE!!!
<Josh_2> well the C function takes an argument of type uint32_t *, so I (foreign-alloc :uint32) as pass that, but it isn't being converted back to a nice integer
<Nilby> Josh_2: Ah, I guess you would normally convert that with mem-ref then
<Josh_2> oh maybe I should try mem-aref
<Nilby> or mem-aref if it's an array
<Josh_2> lemme see
<francogrex> heisig: ok I suppose it was more trial and error (because I haven't seen any sort of comprehensive manual) yet
<Josh_2> yep, mem-aref worked
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<Josh_2> Now I just have to figure out why when I encrypt "test" and then decrypt it i get "test ... " followed by a bunch of random characters like #\Return
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<Bike> sounds like you're reading out of bounds
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<Nilby> Josh_2: Maybe there's a uint8 zero before those which C thinks should stop you, but Lisp is like whatever.
<Josh_2> I got it
<Josh_2> I was reading out of bounds like Bike said
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<dbotton> Is there a way to execute a command from asdf? So that so when someone does a quicklisp load of my project it runs a git command to git clone a JS component?
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<dbotton> Or some other more official way?
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<shinohai> dbotton: Can't use uiop ?
<dbotton> I guess can, can check if present and if not run uiop
* shinohai admits to abusing uiop-run-program quite often ....
<dbotton> But is there an official method for projects to execute things when compiling?
<Alfr_> dbotton, how about don't? It will break compiling in sandboxed environments.
<pfdietz> I see some LZW compression algorithms in QL, but is there one by itself intended for general use?
<pfdietz> Xach: you wrote on in skippy, but it doesn't appear to be part of the exported interface of that system.
<pfdietz> one
<Xach> pfdietz: i did
<Alfr_> dbotton, could you declare a dependency on that component in the readme instead of trying to retrieve it on every load-system?
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<_death> could use git-submodules/subtree or a makefile
<Xach> The simplest thing (on a certain axis) is to include all the things you need up front.
<Xach> This has an advantage of working when make, git, etc are not present.
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<Xach> pfdietz: are you interested in a standalone library for lzw for something in particular?
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<dbotton> So maybe I just describe in demo how if the CDN version fails (or your country can't use) what to do
<dbotton> Thanks for the advice
<dbotton> I don't think I want to add into my git tree and don't really want it as a dependency
<dbotton> So comments in code make most sense
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<White_Flame> dbotton: btw, uoip is a part of asdf, so if you're loading via asdf, you shouldn't have to check if it's there
<dbotton> Thank you
<Xach> having uiop does not mean the things you may want to run will be present and run, though.
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<White_Flame> oh, I thought the implication was testing if uiop was present, might have misread
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<Xach> White_Flame: the context is using uiop to run e.g. git or similar
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<z3t0> hi all
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<didi> People, people. Hear me: use `with-standard-io-syntax' when printing sexps to a file and save yourself from the pain.
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