sb0 changed the topic of #m-labs to: ARTIQ, Migen, MiSoC, Mixxeo & other M-Labs projects :: fka #milkymist :: Logs http://irclog.whitequark.org/m-labs
<cr1901_modern> I hope compiling LLVM goes right on Windows this time... last time, it complained that std::tie didn't exist
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<GitHub142> [artiq] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vCnGg
<GitHub142> artiq/master cd3b590 Sebastien Bourdeauducq: language/scan: add missing attributes to RandomScan...
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<travis-ci> m-labs/artiq#497 (master - cd3b590 : Sebastien Bourdeauducq): The build is still failing.
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<sb0> whitequark, do you have an idea of the typical voltage across a pirani gauge?
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<whitequark> sb0: what's the resistance?
<whitequark> this gauge I have consumes 0.5W at atmospheric. at most half of that will end up in the filanemt
<sb0> about 100 ohm
<sb0> I have only the filament
<sb0> no control circuit
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<whitequark> well, that would be 25mV at most
<whitequark> assuming the filaments are alike
<whitequark> why don't you make a bridge and then pump it down while using a lab power supply and a scope?
<sb0> a bridge with what resistor values?
<sb0> right now I'm putting a few volts into it, and see a variation of some milliamperes that depends on the vacuum
<whitequark> the resistor values in a bridge are ideally all identical
<sb0> ah, right. but then what voltage do I put across the bridge?
<whitequark> in practice, I would take the gauge, two 100 ohm 0.1% resistors, and one 100 ohm potentiometer to balance it out
<whitequark> the voltage doesn't particularly matter
<whitequark> because what you are measuring is the change in resistance relative to the applied voltage
<sb0> and then I have to build an instrumentation amplifier and all that bling?
<whitequark> use a differential opamp. the output will grow proportionally to supply voltage
<sb0> yeah, but doesn't the gauge have an optimal temperature?
<sb0> instrumentation amplifier == differential opamp + stable and reasonable gain
<whitequark> (optimal temp) not really
<whitequark> what you want is it to be reasonably warmer than your system
<sb0> and that requires 3 regular opamps
<whitequark> but not warm enough to reduce filament life
<whitequark> usually they aim at 80°C
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