<Fallenou> :)
<wolfspraul> lekernel: hi, how was fosdem?
<lekernel> hi
<lekernel> it was ok...  got about 80 persons at the talk, overall good feedback
<lekernel> afaik no journalists unfortunately
<lekernel> (don't ask me about fabricatorz, I don't know where they got that from)
<lekernel> the problem at fosdem is the hardware knowledge level seems to be pretty low
<lekernel> for one speaker, "programming interrupts is very difficult"
<wolfspraul> do you know whether/how many m1 bearstech sold?
<lekernel> not yet
<lekernel> i'll ask
<lekernel> from past experiences at fosdem, it seems they don't sell much stuff
<wolfspraul> lekernel: "Fabricatorz libre design team member Sebastian Bourdeauducq"
<wolfspraul> :-)
<wolfspraul> I think it's fun, it doesn't matter
<wolfspraul> you will get used to inaccurate reporting - this one is probably from Jon talking to a journalist and presenting you like that, or a misunderstanding
<wolfspraul> it doesn't matter. most important is that they did report, and linked to milkymist.org
<lekernel> yeah, I guess so
<wolfspraul> not sure how many readers they have though
<wolfspraul> that's the most important question
<lekernel> well at /tmp/lab we had our share of inaccurate reporting too :)
<wolfspraul> oh sure, it's a total mess
<lekernel> sometimes with some damage... indeed this one doesn't really matter
<wolfspraul> once you've been both behind and in front of a story a few times you stop reading the newspaper entirely
<lekernel> one of the articles nearly got us evicted
<wolfspraul> in most cases it's not on purpose, it's just sloppiness/time pressure/badly communicated message/ambiguous wording/etc.
<wolfspraul> most people (including us) just talk talk talk. and we don't pause and double-check how our words are understood.
<wolfspraul> if we do that, sometimes it's surprising to find out how different people understand the very same words we are using every day.
<kristianpaul> damn slow!! (flterm loading a 2.9Mb binary)
<lekernel> yeah, use netboot
<lekernel> that's what it's for
<kristianpaul> k
<kristianpaul> Yah !!!!
<kristianpaul> LUA BOOOTS !!
<kristianpaul> :D
<kristianpaul> It was easy as lekernel pointed ;-)
<kristianpaul> lekernel: not so big to load after objcopy :p
<kristianpaul> green
<Fallenou> congratulation kristianpaul :)
<Fallenou> well done !
<kristianpaul> argg
<kristianpaul> why it works well on qemu but not in the board..
<kristianpaul> lekernel: I'll fork flicernoise, basically remove mtk and png stuff, and focus on comand line, is okay if i call it "flicerknoise minimal" or just invent other name not related with it to not create confution with the upstream vesion.
<kristianpaul> Fallenou: thanks :-), I'm learning... step by step, next target rtems :-) !
<Fallenou> good luck :)
<Fallenou> if you have questions do not hesitate maybe i've already had one of the troubles you may have
<kristianpaul> mwalle: what's up with micromonitor?
<mwalle> kristianpaul: should be working
<kristianpaul> mwalle: where is the code?
<mwalle> there was an issue with flash access and DMA (esp. ethernet) with the real board, but that shoudl be gone with the crossbar switch
<mwalle> kristianpaul: git.serverraum.org
<kristianpaul> i'll checkout, thanks !
<kristianpaul> damn i need my own git sever..
<kristianpaul> seRver
<mwalle> why arent you using github?
<kristianpaul> I do use github
<kristianpaul> But i need a backup ;-)
<kristianpaul> And something running on the server, i must make  worth the investement :-)
<mwalle> lol :)
<mwalle> i have to go, gn8
<kristianpaul> bye
<Fallenou> kristianpaul: your local copy of the github repo is like a backup :)
<kristianpaul> Fallenou: yes, but is on my desktoo computer, i dont like single point of failure, so i want it on the server too
<kristianpaul> I may install indefero, i like the project, lets see
<Fallenou> you have your desktop and github
<Fallenou> but you can make a third one
<kristianpaul> i own a server, yes the third one !
<Fallenou> ;)
<lekernel> kristianpaul: the demo firmware is like flickernoise in command line, though it doesn't have the latest renderer features
<kristianpaul> lekernel: but isnt based on rtems? may i right?
<lekernel> no, it's not using an OS at all
<kristianpaul> ok
<kristianpaul> i want work with rtems
<kristianpaul> yaffs2 support i something i value
<kristianpaul> not the sd and ethernet bugs, but that is a TODO :-)
<kristianpaul> to be sincere i dint manage to fully compile flicknoise from scratch, i always get mess when compiling/installinh mtk depences and other libs so i just need yaffs and may be libFPVM
<kristianpaul> no more :-)
<lekernel> if all you're say is "i get a mess" we can't really help you
<lekernel> they are many dependences, but I don't think they're messy
<lekernel> I just asked for this: http://www.webmproject.org/hardware/
<kristianpaul> sure i can ask for help with detailed data, let see if need it, for now i'll skip what i dont need and comment some include and tasks i dont need
<lekernel> "WebM RTL source code (VHDL or Verilog) is available at no charge." and developed by Google, not some random opencores guy, so there's a chance this would get video decoding to work on mm
<lekernel> kristianpaul: it'll be faster to fix the dependency problems
<kristianpaul> lekernel: well, right, wait for my building log then ;-)
<lekernel> send that to the list, along with specific questions that would help you understand why it didn't work
<kristianpaul> Anyway is good to have VGA output from time to time :-)
<kristianpaul> I like pdf thing too
<kristianpaul> no-cost license but.... non-comercial as well?
<tuxbrain> wow lekernel implement this on the MM soc can be awesome if license thing is not tainted :)
<lekernel> kristianpaul: I know nothing more than what is on the website
<kristianpaul> reading webmproject.org/license/additional/
<lekernel> isn't that for the software implementation?
<kristianpaul> bistream then?
<kristianpaul> i got confused when read IP
<kristianpaul> tought ip cores?.. yes u r right
<lekernel> I don't know
<lekernel> bitstream is for the generated video files imo
<kristianpaul> well, keep us posted !
<tuxbrain> yep :)
<kristianpaul> I guess you should sign this? https://code.google.com/intl/es-AR/legal/individual-cla-v1.0.html
<lekernel> no, that's the contributor agreement
<lekernel> you never actually have to sign those
<lekernel> unless you want to merge stuff upstream, which you aren't forced to do
<kristianpaul> ah, i see
<kristianpaul> oh they use mastroka, interesting
<kristianpaul> /opt/rtems-4.11/lm32-rtems4.11/milkymist/lib/include
<kristianpaul> Is the right include folder for rtems/milkymist right?
<kristianpaul> ha, i was using a newer libpng vesion...
<kristianpaul> lekernel: still awake? i need help with LDFLAGS and mupdf it seems http://paste.debian.net/106826/
<kristianpaul> arggg i'm getting simliar error trying to compile flickernoise http://paste.debian.net/106831/