<wolfspraul>
so basically our plan is - we will have a label 'MIC' on the VGA..LINE level (in between those two)
<wolfspraul>
there will be a hole, maybe 2 mm (?), and roh needs to know the location of that hole
<wolfspraul>
do you understand what I mean, and do you know when you will have the coordinates?
<wolfspraul>
also which size do you think the hole should have? roh proposed 2mm as a starting point...
<aw_>
I'll provide that coordinates for it...not received a newest routing file though. probably within these two days.
<wolfspraul>
that's totally fine. roh did you see that?
<wolfspraul>
aw_: so you understand what roh needs, right? do you have a proposed size for the hole?
<aw_>
roh, the placement of 90 degree for MIC will be the centeral coordinates between VGA edge and LINE IN connectors.
<wolfspraul>
sorry got disconnected...
<aw_>
roh, the size of MIC case hole should not bigger than diameter of MIC. meanwhile the MIC doesn't be exactly and proposedly placed at the board edge. It's a small 0.5mm far away from edge to suffer from collision case to make noises.
<wolfspraul>
what's the diameter of the mic? I think it's like 5mm or so now, right? quite big I think
<roh>
i think of making a 2mm hole
<roh>
should be big enough
<aw_>
roh, diameter size of 2mm?
<roh>
for the hole
<roh>
the mic behind it can be bigger. it also has only tiny holes in the front
<wolfspraul>
2mm sounds good to me.
<aw_>
do you means that there have only one 2mm hole in case for MIC? the diameter of MIC is 9.7mm
<wolfspraul>
aw_: yes, he is planning only one, 2mm diameter hole
<wolfspraul>
unless you say maybe we should make it 3 or 4mm? :-)
<aw_>
so i think that you can make a bigger one and just less than 7~8mm. how do you think?
<aw_>
wolfspraul, there's no 'unless' situation that shows up if we will have good sounds wave goes without interferences since now there's no one doing on drilling a small hole 2 mm or bigger holes experiments, or we just don't need it. :-)
<roh>
i just dont want to make it too big since then people will poke into it with stuff like plugs (the line plug e.g.)
<roh>
on my notebook there are 2 small 1mm holes for the mic
<aw_>
it's true that this MIC seems that won't absolutely influence major functionality compared to this minor MIC thing. :-)
<aw_>
roh, be cared that at least you know your notebook's MIC is the same diameter to the same of us. :-)
<wolfspraul>
good point about people accidentally plugging the audio cable into the mic hole!
<aw_>
or its reciptance of Sensitivity is the same with notbook, so what i know is that i don't know now. :-)
<wolfspraul>
aw_: let's keep things practical.
<wolfspraul>
It's obvious to me, even without tests, that a hole will improve the mic's reception
<wolfspraul>
if I'm wrong, well, I take that chance :-)
<wolfspraul>
we have no time and resources, and it's not worth it either, to compare different hole sizes
<wolfspraul>
so we guess!
<aw_>
wolfspraul, with 2mm, yeap...avoid of accdentally plugging. :-)
<wolfspraul>
and roh's argument seems very solid
<wolfspraul>
2mm
<wolfspraul>
good choice
<roh>
ok. will do so.
<wolfspraul>
it's better than rc2 (I think), and in rc4 we can improve even more...
<aw_>
surely better than rc2. :-)
<roh>
i will check back with you for last wishes before doing the full run, but i'll order the spacers and rest of the stuff asap then.
<wolfspraul>
roh: aside from the exact mic coordinates that ADam will give you, the next and probably last open thing are the button labels
<wolfspraul>
let's see what Sebastien says about that when he's back
<wolfspraul>
totally unlabeled is not good imo
<roh>
sure. thats why i will check back with you.
<wolfspraul>
oh now I remember
<wolfspraul>
we discussed the button labels before!
<wolfspraul>
and I think back then our best idea was L ON R
<wolfspraul>
l for left, r for right
<wolfspraul>
maybe on the same height and font size like the IR ... USB? or smaller and closer to the buttons? right above them maybe?
<roh>
anyhow.. that still has a few days to get finally decided ;)
<wolfspraul>
anyway let's see about that one when lekernel is back
<wolfspraul>
I think L ON R would not be too bad, that's my first proposal unless something better comes in...
<roh>
need to sleep a bit now ;) and do some it-leftovers from the last 4 weeks of building afterwards. we were really down to 'security only' on a lot of systems. need to do some maintainance and work down stuff.
<wolfspraul>
sure, cya, and n8
<kristianpaul>
shit, is me or iverilog have problems with FSM... always @(*)
<kristianpaul>
IDLE
<kristianpaul>
LOAD_HI
<kristianpaul>
LOAD High 0
<kristianpaul>
Next State 1
<kristianpaul>
1 is actually LOAD_LO but never got there..